Toilet emptying - Permission to bury 1 x cubic metre permit (England Only)

596 said:
I did look at that but they are VERY expensive!
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a second hand one was
£10 off a funster for me !
Often second hand ones on the forum or e bay . Taken but never used yet.
 
movan said:
Don't worry son. You think you've got problems!!

It's 3.30am and I'm lying in bed waiting for sean Bean.. He hasn't turned up and reading this is my alternative. :(
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Never mind Joy, you can watch him swash his buckle at 11am on TV in Sharpe.

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His disappearance probably means it was another of his wind ups but the truth of it is I do know a bit about waste license's, and it's a very fine line with waste carrying, and if it came to it we are all waste carries moving it from one place to another so it wouldn't want many applications for them to wake up to it, especially if they were to start
charging for them which they do with legit waste carriers.
What a fiasco that would be, where when how are you going to dispose of it, inspections, red tape :Eeek: :Eeek:
No for god's sake don't mention it.
 
Can we please try and stay on track!

I’m leaving now for a full day at the Southampton boat show, it would be nice to come back tomorrow and see some ‘sensible’ questions to put to the waste department!

We are going to measure our waste for a week (starting on solids) to try and work out how many days away would use our 1 cubic metre allowance, we will start tomorrow as my wife has point blank refused to take bags to the show today, she even questioned taking bags into her office in London but that is the only way to capture the data (no difference to dog bags), I will just weigh what she brings home over the week and within 7 days we should know. It would be interesting if others are doing the same so we can share the data.

The problem for me is I rarely use my lavatory in the van so have no idea how long it takes to fill, not being able to go fills me with terror, so if I’m off in my new van wild camping then I need to have everything planned, imagine your desperate and your red light comes on. Then what? you still have 2 days to go, in the middle of nowhere, THAT is the issue. Thanks
 
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Grianan said:
Can you ask them if Chris is involved in this wind up?

I ask cos I’m sure Jim posted a change of name from Chris to 596.

I think the capitalisation may suggest 2 people amd I’m not sure Chris would keep a wind up going this long without it being French based as he’s such a Francophile.

But they might know of a link ....
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Grianan

I believe Chris changed his name to 595 as a joke - he’s now reverted back to Chris.

The capitalisation is definitely a 596 thing. I did mention to him that it is generally associated with shouting.

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596 said:
Can we please try and stay on track!

I’m leaving now for a full day at the Southampton boat show, it would be nice to come back tomorrow and see some ‘sensible’ questions to put to the waste department!

We are going to measure our waste for a week (starting on solids) to try and work out how many days away would use our 1 cubic metre allowance, we will start tomorrow as my wife has point blank refused to take bags to the show today, she even questioned taking bags into her office in London but that is the only way to capture the data (no difference to dog bags), I will just weigh what she brings home over the week and within 7 days we should know. It would be interesting if others are doing the same so we can share the data.

The problem for me is I rarely use my lavatory in the van so have no idea how long it takes to fill, not being able to go fills me with terror, so if I’m off in my new van wild camping then I need to have everything planned, imagine your desperate and your red light comes on. Then what? you still have 2 days to go, in the middle of nowhere, THAT is the issue. Thanks
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Why not buy a motorhome with a black tank? You can leave it for about 10 days before emptying. Also no chemicals,
 
One cubic metre will be average 300 man days of waste so 5 people around 60 days (y) :D2

These calculations are based on a cassette which I believe tends to use less water than a black tank system.

Martin
 
Southdowners said:
Why not buy a motorhome with a black tank? You can leave it for about 10 days before emptying. Also no chemicals,
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Ask a septic tank emptyer how much his licence is to transport a tank full.
 
I give up, looks at a Morelo says price isn't s problem then buys a Swift and complains about it and now wants to bury a ton and a half of sh*t.

Perhaps he wants to bury the Swift after its disintegrated through water ingress it should fit in the cubic metre :ROFLMAO:

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Buying a Morelo wouldn't have been a problem but a 2nd cassette is expensive, who is this joker.
 
596 said:
Can we please try and stay on track!

I’m leaving now for a full day at the Southampton boat show, it would be nice to come back tomorrow and see some ‘sensible’ questions to put to the waste department!

We are going to measure our waste for a week (starting on solids) to try and work out how many days away would use our 1 cubic metre allowance, we will start tomorrow as my wife has point blank refused to take bags to the show today, she even questioned taking bags into her office in London but that is the only way to capture the data (no difference to dog bags), I will just weigh what she brings home over the week and within 7 days we should know. It would be interesting if others are doing the same so we can share the data.

The problem for me is I rarely use my lavatory in the van so have no idea how long it takes to fill, not being able to go fills me with terror, so if I’m off in my new van wild camping then I need to have everything planned, imagine your desperate and your red light comes on. Then what? you still have 2 days to go, in the middle of nowhere, THAT is the issue. Thanks
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This is meant to be a genuinely helpful post. Your experience of motorhoming seems to be 6 weeks in the South of France where you use all singing all dancing sites and don’t actually use your motorhome in the way it was intended to be used. Perhaps it would be better to try some little trips to some ordinary sites but use your own facilities until you get the hang of things. Then if you do misjudge it, no harm comes, you use the site facilities, empty your casette in the morning. Even when the red light comes on it’s only 80% full. Use your eyes as well if you’re worried your new van might have a fault, you can see if it’s near the blade. You keep asking questions , then if people give you advice you don’t like you get in a huff. Try using your motorhome a bit properly in the UK on sites before wildcamping.

Most of the threads on this forum go off track, it’s just the way it is, we don’t want it to change, that’s why it’s Motorhomefun not Motorhomexxxxx.

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movan said:
Don't worry son. You think you've got problems!!

It's 3.30am and I'm lying in bed waiting for sean Bean.. He hasn't turned up and reading this is my alternative. :(
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I think I’ll have to send Nick on golf weekends more often, I’d quite forgotten how lovely Sean Bean was in Sharp. He’s a bit past his best nowadays but so am I. Thank you Joy for the reminder!
 
596 said:
you still have 2 days to go, in the middle of nowhere, THAT is the issue. Thanks
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Oh Heck.... Having been to France during all your hols... Haven't you learnt something from them then??? Just buy a bucket and/or use mother Nature... Or may be nappies? Don't forget baby powder.... Lots!!!

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596 said:
I put another post on here today about using the van more, I have been looking for inspiration of places to go, we are boring and wear a groove in our trip every year, same place. So having invested a LOT in a new motorhome I am going to give other places a go, I fancy going back home to Scotland and touring about but I understand Aberdeen has changed quite a bit. Problem is time, not for me I'm retired, but the wife who is still working, have been talking about her flying up and meeting me, so still discussing, grandkids will only be SoF for 6 weeks every summer.

https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/best-trip-ever-where-was-yours-and-why.205007/ (y)
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I thought the shovel and hole licence only applied in Englandshire so not a great deal of use in Scotland
Aberdeen has changed a fair bit recently, most notably, the bypass round Stonehaven is now open so you can in fact avoid it altogether and focus on Deeside/Donside and the Highlands . ?
 
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596 said:
Its the environmental issues and law, if everyone just emptied their cassettes wherever they wanted then imagine what would happen, what about the chemicals in it and wild animals, I am going to study the waste & recycling regulations over the weekend, it's fascinating, the link is here if you want something to read (y) https://www.gov.uk/environment/waste-and-recycling
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Don’t know what sort of diet you’re on but I don’t have too many wild animals in mine ?
 
596 said:
Can we please try and stay on track!

I’m leaving now for a full day at the Southampton boat show, it would be nice to come back tomorrow and see some ‘sensible’ questions to put to the waste department!

We are going to measure our waste for a week (starting on solids) to try and work out how many days away would use our 1 cubic metre allowance, we will start tomorrow as my wife has point blank refused to take bags to the show today, she even questioned taking bags into her office in London but that is the only way to capture the data (no difference to dog bags), I will just weigh what she brings home over the week and within 7 days we should know. It would be interesting if others are doing the same so we can share the data.

The problem for me is I rarely use my lavatory in the van so have no idea how long it takes to fill, not being able to go fills me with terror, so if I’m off in my new van wild camping then I need to have everything planned, imagine your desperate and your red light comes on. Then what? you still have 2 days to go, in the middle of nowhere, THAT is the issue. Thanks
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Allow me to pose some questions for your planned telecommunication with officialdom on Monday.

1) Am I required to carry with me a 1m3 leakproof container that I use to bury in the ground in order to deposit my waste at the chosen site- I am concerned about the impact on the environment and would not wish to pollute the soil in my chosen location.
2) it would be more convenient if I could divide my annual allocation of 1m3 into day 10 deposits of 100litres each, thus allowing me to travel to different places. Would it be allowable to carry 10 x 100litre boxes instead of 1m3?
3). If no such containment is required, is there a possible impact on the pollution caused by my human waste on different soil types? Should I carry a pH meter or similar testing kit to try and achieve neutral pH?
4). Is there a particular depth of soil or turf I need to place over the container/hole in order to prevent the release of methane and other gases toxic to the environment?
5) Do you provide flag markers in order to identify where I have buried waste so that someone else with a licence doesn’t come along and use their allocated licence in my hole?
6) if flag markers are not provided, can I provide you with GPS location references of my various deposits? If so is there a particular GPS format you prefer.
7) If I use a larger motorhome, will a postcode do instead of a GPS reference?
8) There is no number 8
9) Do you have a monitoring system in place to check up on any deposits I may have made? Which local authorities have such arrangements and can I have the contact details of the officers involved so that I can discuss further?

Thanks in anticipation ☺

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Baileysbus said:
Allow me to pose some questions for your planned telecommunication with officialdom on Monday.

1) Am I required to carry with me a 1m3 leakproof container that I use to bury in the ground in order to deposit my waste at the chosen site- I am concerned about the impact on the environment and would not wish to pollute the soil in my chosen location.
2) it would be more convenient if I could divide my annual allocation of 1m3 into day 10 deposits of 100litres each, thus allowing me to travel to different places. Would it be allowable to carry 10 x 100litre boxes instead of 1m3?
3). If no such containment is required, is there a possible impact on the pollution caused by my human waste on different soil types? Should I carry a pH meter or similar testing kit to try and achieve neutral pH?
4). Is there a particular depth of soil or turf I need to place over the container/hole in order to prevent the release of methane and other gases toxic to the environment?
5) Do you provide flag markers in order to identify where I have buried waste so that someone else with a licence doesn’t come along and use their allocated licence in my hole?
6) if flag markers are not provided, can I provide you with GPS location references of my various deposits? If so is there a particular GPS format you prefer.
7) If I use a larger motorhome, will a postcode do instead of a GPS reference?
8) There is no number 8
9) Do you have a monitoring system in place to check up on any deposits I may have made? Which local authorities have such arrangements and can I have the contact details of the officers involved so that I can discuss further?
10) Who killed Kennedy?

Thanks in anticipation ☺
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Fixed it for you.
 
Here's a serious post...

We make on average 45kg of rubbish a year (or dung if you're vegetarian)
So a cubic metre is a couple of years worth?

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