The resurrection of Doc, bringing a 20 year old neismann Bischoff Flair back to life after 12 years off road.

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Normally they would centre the wheel then adjust the tracking.Never seen it done any other way.
I've not physically seen it done since I was an apprentice, the only vehicle I've had it done on in recent years was the hymer in 2019 but sat in waiting room so couldn't see how they did it.

When I was an apprentice it was the old calipers on the floor ... we would push car forward then place calipers on to the wheels etc.


In all the years its not something I've ever had to do myself.

I understand how it's done though .

This van is supposed to toe In slightly 1/8 of an inch

If it is out I can't imagine it's by much , but that does make me wonder why the steering wheel is out as much
 
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This is where the wheel sits when driving... that's how it went when I reversed in to drive not holding the wheel.

It's annoying as you can't see the stalk with wipers cruise control etc on it .
When driving forward though if I left the wheel like that I'd end up in the hedge...I've to push it up to hold it almost level to drive straight.
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Aren’t vehicles supposed to have a slight pull the the inside to stop you wandering into head on traffic..? Better to hit the verge then a bus coming the other way….🤔
 
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If you always run with same weight distribution it will not hurt to adjust torsion bar to suit , leaf spring landrovers had different springs left and right to compensate for driver , battery and fuel tank all being on one side (with RHD vehicle ).
I'm gonna ask this fella who's doing the alignment today if it's something he's clued up on as I'm not unfortunately.. whilst there's a lot of mechanical stuff I can do this is above me unfortunately. And when it's something I'm not sure of I'm hesitant to mess with it incase I make it worse.

I'm hoping what he does solves my problem then I can just forget about it lol as my head is frying 🤯🤯
 
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Aren’t vehicles supposed to have a slight pull the the inside to stop you wandering into head on traffic..? Better to hit the verge then a bus coming the other way….🤔
And take all the pedestrians out 😁

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Aren’t vehicles supposed to have a slight pull the the inside to stop you wandering into head on traffic..? Better to hit the verge then a bus coming the other way….🤔
I don't think so .

Thats what I said to you before , if this was just behaving like all my previous motors i wouldn't have mentioned it so much . You know yourself it was one of the first things I mentioned to you the day we picked it up ... I said it had no power and was pulling to the left constantly...that's why we went to garage Mind to blow tyres up.


It is a shame that you couldn't drive it as I know you'd then see what I mean with it.

Hopefully this fella sorts it today but if he don't then I'll see if uncle Lenny HB wants to try it when he's back next week and if he notices it the same
 
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Typically it's about to start peeing it down here lol.

The devil in me thinks well rather you than me Mr alignment man having to crawl about in the wet to fix it.
But the other part thinks I hope he don't cut corners to get out of the rain.



At 4 o'clock until further notice I insist you all keep all fingers crossed that this issue gets sorted today.

It's spoiling the enjoyment of me new van


Remap tomorrow too ...
 
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How much simpler life was in 2016 when I had this van ....and no dogs


I often wonder IF I'd decided to keep this one and I did that first trip around Spain etc if I'd still be fulltime now , would I have had at least one dog or none etc

I loved this van it was mint for its age ... and hassle free lol. But I thought I needed a huge van to live in so I sold it and bought franky
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Typically it's about to start peeing it down here lol.

The devil in me thinks well rather you than me Mr alignment man having to crawl about in the wet to fix it.
But the other part thinks I hope he don't cut corners to get out of the rain.



At 4 o'clock until further notice I insist you all keep all fingers crossed that this issue gets sorted today.

It's spoiling the enjoyment of me new van


Remap tomorrow too ...
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How much simpler life was in 2016 when I had this van ....and no dogs


I often wonder IF I'd decided to keep this one and I did that first trip around Spain etc if I'd still be fulltime now , would I have had at least one dog or none etc

I loved this van it was mint for its age ... and hassle free lol. But I thought I needed a huge van to live in so I sold it and bought franky View attachment 971398View attachment 971399View attachment 971400

Should have kept it, just think of all the money you could have saved….😎
 
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Aren’t vehicles supposed to have a slight pull the the inside to stop you wandering into head on traffic..? Better to hit the verge then a bus coming the other way….🤔
In the old days before power steering, steering was adjusted so it self centred.

In other words, after you went around a bend and back on the straight, if you slackened you grip of the steering wheel, it would spin back to going straight.

I think it is only when one has power steering that the steering is so light that it feels as if the road camber is pulling the vehicle to the left slightly?

PS. Northernraider I think the early VW combi (splitscreen) vans had rear torsion bar suspension.
Might be worth searching their sites for how to make adjustments?
 
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PS. Northernraider I think the early VW combi (splitscreen) vans had rear torsion bar suspension.
Might be worth searching their sites for how to make adjustments?
They had adjustable torsion beam front suspension too but a different method from this van.


I used to cut and turn the beams on the old t2's to lower them .

This is a slightly more complex system.
 
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Alignment guy has just phoned he's just leaving Haywards heath so reckons he'll be about a half hour .

Gonna be dark when he gets here lol. Still peeing it down too.

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