The Lake District - What is the attraction ?

[steve69]

But the supply of water to Manchester is from a mere

BBC - Manchester - Tunnel vision: quenching a city

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I believe it's Thirlmere - a man made reservoir.

 

[gpat]

I believe it's Thirlmere - a man made reservoir.

I.m not sure about Thirlmere, but from a water engineering point of view many reservoirs are actually lakes or lochs that have been made bigger by the installation of a Dam. This is not always the case though. Sometimes a Dam may be accross the River.

The classic examples are Loch Lomond and Loch Katrine. I blieve both have tiny Dams that rainse the level ny only a metre or so. But because of the massive area that equates to a lot of Water

 

[jockaneezer]

I believe it's Thirlmere - a man made reservoir.

And the water travels all the way by gravity at around 3 and a 1/2 miles an hour so that it takes almost a full day to get to Manchester.
They've been installing a new huge pipeline around the Keswick area for quite a while now and about 5 years ago, my son, then 25, was starting his own forestry business and got subcontracted to remove some trees from the route. One of them was quite a big burr oak. It was the "fattest" tree he had felled at that time and he put a pic of it on his Facebook page. You wouldn't believe the abuse he got for it from all the greenies. They didn't understand that, unfortunately, due to going for an environmentally sound solution (gravity feed again, no pumps or electric required) the tree was unhappily in the "wrong" place and moving the pipeline wasn't an option.
We picked loads of acorns from the site, I brought a load on in my greenhouse and we gave some to some of the digger drivers and told them to plant them along the route.

 

[Catpirate]

That is (was) a mighty tree and a great shame it was in the wrong place. Hope the wood was well used and its acorn spread wide.

 

[EuroTrotters]

No idea, nothing to see or do, it rains all the time and mega rich people have moved in and built huge mansions, I want our old Lake District back

I see what you mean !

Double Garage for £300,000

Obviously selling for the plot.

Wonder what they will squeeze on?

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[EuroTrotters]

And the water travels all the way by gravity at around 3 and a 1/2 miles an hour so that it takes almost a full day to get to Manchester.
They've been installing a new huge pipeline around the Keswick area for quite a while now and about 5 years ago, my son, then 25, was starting his own forestry business and got subcontracted to remove some trees from the route. One of them was quite a big burr oak. It was the "fattest" tree he had felled at that time and he put a pic of it on his Facebook page. You wouldn't believe the abuse he got for it from all the greenies. They didn't understand that, unfortunately, due to going for an environmentally sound solution (gravity feed again, no pumps or electric required) the tree was unhappily in the "wrong" place and moving the pipeline wasn't an option.
We picked loads of acorns from the site, I brought a load on in my greenhouse and we gave some to some of the digger drivers and told them to plant them along the route.
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What a shot. I hope they make something good of the oak!

 

[steve69]

That is (was) a mighty tree and a great shame it was in the wrong place. Hope the wood was well used and its acorn spread wide.

It would also be nice if they re-planted many trees after the pipeline is buried.

 

[PaulyP]

As I mentioned we had a lodge up there, when I retired decided not to keep the lodge on as the site fees were £8000 a year plus £1000 rates ,then insurance and gas/electric so near £10,000 just to be there. Lots of people rented them out but we never would, tried it once and we decided others wouldn’t look after it we’ll enough. Cost was not a problem whilst working but once I retired just thought it had become too expensive just for personal use, now have a large static near lancaster which is less than half the price of the lakes, and we like lancaster.

 

[EuroTrotters]

It would also be nice if they re-planted many trees after the pipeline is buried.

size of that tree, roots might damage the pipe!

 

[Rudski01]

I see what you mean !

Double Garage for £300,000

Obviously selling for the plot.

Wonder what they will squeeze on?

If you’re v rich and prepared to cross the right palms with enough silver then as far as I can see build whatever.
Im slightly bitter as after I needed to prove an old mechanics garage I purchased in my village was:
Not in a flood risk zone 3 area due to the EA inaccurate mapping of a river, nobody has any history of flooding and not enough tributaries feeding it, but still needed to pay thousands to disprove the maps, then they admitted they were crude when done
Proved there was no contamination as old fuel tanks removed ( I already knew this was required)
EA happy Then lake district planning said it hadn’t been marketed as a business and we had removed a service from the village, we disproved this , but nope policy number blah blah blah states this that and the other, what do I need to do mr LDPB man! Please try and sell it we are trying to encourage more retail and tourism to the area, this will bring high paid jobs, really was the challenge, not interested please re market it for twelve months thank you
Then I drive around parts of the lakes where huge houses have appeared on hillsides, lakesides worth millions and it makes my pee boil
And breath let’s see how much interest I get, then the fight will begin as the plans submitted initially were rejected as they weren’t in keeping with the village, I honestly despair at the situation.

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[jockaneezer]

What a shot. I hope they make something good of the oak ?

It actually went for veneer, coming soon to a dining table near you ?
My son got a fixed price for felling it, he probably made the least amount out of everyone involved and did the most work, was it ever thus !

 

[EuroTrotters]

Hi Euro trotters, sad to hear about your heel.

I come from Bolton, just north of Manchester. I recently stayed in Low Wray campsite on Windermere. Took an 8.2 mt motorhome. great walks, kayak from the site and ferry to Ambleside. if needed. The Lake district is more than the lakes. Can get very congested in popular sites , and can seem very motorhome unfriendly. it all depends on what your expectations are. The scenery is spectacular it is worth a climb up Helvellin via the easier routes from Grisedale Tarn (accessible from Grasmere or Patterdale), or from Swirls. Lots of tarns to visit with easy walks around e.g. Stickle Tarn, not always accessible with a larger motor home. Easy places maybe the staying at the White Hart at Bouth, visit the Haverthwaite to Lakeside steam railway and have a trip on the boats. https://www.thebimblers.com/newby-bridge-and-lakeside-on-lake-windermere/

This is the response I was looking and grateful for. I will take the son board and will be researching it for a caravan trip in the coming months.

Just need to look for some old chip fat for the old Moho ! if the diesel situation continues.

 

[VXman]

Despite being called "The Lake District" there is only one lake, bassenthwaite ?.

So, Why do people venture up that way in droves?

What are the attractions ?

Helvellyn via Striding Edge​

Scafell Pike​

The Old Man of Coniston​

Amongst many others!

 

[Maitken1]

If you drive a few hours North into Scotland you have the same scenery with no people and spectacular lakes.

 

[bobnick]

Anyone in the LD should try The Hardknott Pass at least once. But NOT in a PVC or MH.

You can quite easily stay away from people crowds in the LD.

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[Rudski01]

Anyone in the LD should try The Hardknott Pass at least once. But NOT in a PVC or MH.

You can quite easily stay away from people crowds in the LD.

Only if a confident driver, we watch the recovery vehicle head up sometimes twice a day for people who’ve ripped tyres apart or smashed sumps out.
Also understands right of way, anybody heading up should be allowed to proceed without being halted in their tracks, clutches quite happily burn out due to people not giving way.
So busy now, unfortunately there’s not enough passing places

 

[sciac2001]

Try looking for a proper forest in the New Forest!

 

[bobnick]

Only if a confident driver, we watch the recovery vehicle head up sometimes twice a day for people who’ve ripped tyres apart or smashed sumps out.
Also understands right of way, anybody heading up should be allowed to proceed without being halted in their tracks, clutches quite happily burn out due to people not giving way.
So busy now, unfortunately there’s not enough passing places

Agree. The several times i have driven and ridden it both ways i have conformed with that road etiquette, unfortunately far too many are simply not aware of such etiquette.
It is a challenge.

 

[kevenh]

Purely a question of semantics. Doesn't matter what you call it as long as everyone recognizes it as an expanse of water. At one point does a pond become a lake? Or a mere for that matter.

Yep, definitely this ^^^
When I looked at definitions of mere and tarn at post #3 they were described as being types of lakes so

 

[L' Hobo]

Only if a confident driver, we watch the recovery vehicle head up sometimes twice a day for people who’ve ripped tyres apart or smashed sumps out.
Also understands right of way, anybody heading up should be allowed to proceed without being halted in their tracks, clutches quite happily burn out due to people not giving way.
So busy now, unfortunately there’s not enough passing places

I did it once in my fairly narrow T25 VeeDub from the West side and Thank God I never met anything coming down!

Going up is far better from the East but even then, only for the more experienced (used to be a nice campsite for walking on the West side near the narrow gauge station, hope it's still there?)

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[L' Hobo]

Yep, definitely this ^^^
When I looked at definitions of mere and tarn at post #3 they were described as being types of lakes so

In my mind, it may be wrong, a Tarn is fairly small and normally found up a mountain or hill, a Mere can be any size?

 

[kevenh]

In my mind, it may be wrong, a Tarn is fairly small and normally found up a mountain or hill, a Mere can be any size?

I think you’re correct. From post 3’s link, a Tarn is from old Norse & a fairly small lake and normally found up a mountain or hill, a Mere can be any size lake

 

[Rudski01]

I did it once in my fairly narrow T25 VeeDub from the West side and Thank God I never met anything coming down!

Going up is far better from the East but even then, only for the more experienced (used to be a nice campsite for walking on the West side near the narrow gauge station, hope it's still there?)

Yes, National Trust owns it now

 

[bobnick]

Thought a small hill was a Tor?

 

[L' Hobo]

Yes, National Trust owns it now

Goody, I'm a member of the NT but, as last time I was there, the entrance was very narrow and there was no buildings, why did the NT get it. I hope it was given and not purchased, I'll have to look it up??

Edit: Just had a look and yes, it's the same Eskdale site which has been expanded with pods etc.

When I was there is was run by CCC. (must pop in and see the difference) (I wonder if I can still claim my CCC OAP discount??? )

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[L' Hobo]

Thought a small hill was a Tor?

Once again, I think, a Tor is made of rock, whereas a hill can be made of earth etc?

 

[Ian Bosman]

Despite being called "The Lake District" there is only one lake, bassenthwaite ?.

So, Why do people venture up that way in droves?

What are the attractions ?

Is there some snobbery about knowing a lake from.a stretch of fully enclosed water which to us humble beings is a "lake" Why is Bassenthwaite a lake and Windermere not? I suspect your answer will mean that the vast number of "lakes" in the world are not such

 

[L' Hobo]

Is there some snobbery about knowing a lake from.a stretch of fully enclosed water which to us humble beings is a "lake" Why is Bassenthwaite a lake and Windermere not? I suspect your answer will mean that the vast number of "lakes" in the world are not such

Not sure about the snobbery etc. but was it not up there somewhere that the first package holiday was invented by Thomas Cook???

 

[Ian Bosman]

Windermere isn’t a lake it’s a mere. Hence the name. You are correct there is only one lake it’s not Windermere though.
It would appear you’re a city type so you’ll never understand the lure of the mountains, the wild inaccessible places.
Probably best you stay in the cities and leave the countryside to those that appreciate it. I promise I’ll stay away from Manchester .

Go read this article and note what the author says at the end https://www.baldhiker.com/2018/11/03/lake-mere-tarn-and-water-the-difference/. Another words, who cares what the various bits of water are called, just enjoy them!

 

[sonar]

If you’re v rich and prepared to cross the right palms with enough silver then as far as I can see build whatever.
Im slightly bitter as after I needed to prove an old mechanics garage I purchased in my village was:
Not in a flood risk zone 3 area due to the EA inaccurate mapping of a river, nobody has any history of flooding and not enough tributaries feeding it, but still needed to pay thousands to disprove the maps, then they admitted they were crude when done
Proved there was no contamination as old fuel tanks removed ( I already knew this was required)
EA happy Then lake district planning said it hadn’t been marketed as a business and we had removed a service from the village, we disproved this , but nope policy number blah blah blah states this that and the other, what do I need to do mr LDPB man! Please try and sell it we are trying to encourage more retail and tourism to the area, this will bring high paid jobs, really was the challenge, not interested please re market it for twelve months thank you
Then I drive around parts of the lakes where huge houses have appeared on hillsides, lakesides worth millions and it makes my pee boil
And breath let’s see how much interest I get, then the fight will begin as the plans submitted initially were rejected as they weren’t in keeping with the village, I honestly despair at the situation.

So if you were to submit plans for a new garage I bet it would be refused due to something or another.

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