Tam and Toby ~~ Hunting Zorba .....Take two.

[spitfire]

I don't have a chip ....i just get tired of idiots to be honest.

This is my thread ...most people that follow it know quite a few things about me....i mean I'm quite am open book where i can be.

1) im scottish ....and i support an independent Scotland.
2) im not a brexit supporter
3) i dont like campsites
4) i dont like anything that restricts my freedom
5) im not keen on folk who go out there way to be negative or to stir shit.
6) i dislike racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia etc etc etc

So to be honest thats kind of how it is ....if folk dont want to follow me or indeed feel the need to tell me on my thread that im wrong for being who I am then they don't have to come here or read it....to be honest i saw a lot of it on ianthebuilder threads too over the years.

End of the day i do these threads as a kind of travel diary for me and because some folk find them interesting...im the first to admit i probably overshare a fair bit on here ....the joys of being solo i guess...but theres parts of my life i deliberately avoid discussing as i know it would only attract the negative folk which is sad to be honest.

There are lots of folk follow me and my threads who are polar opposites of me but we just dont go there ....but likewise some who never contribute anything positive but seem to have an alarm set that whenever anything is posted they can come argue over arrive within minutes.

Now on other internet platforms im on i can just block these folk and forget they exsist
I can't do that here due to how Jim has the forum set up

But folk on the wind up i really cant be bothered with .....the same goes in the real world when i meet folk in person....if i find them annoying i simply avoid them.

Try being Scottish and living in France on the forum then you really are in trouble lol

 

[KiwiKampers]

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Pssst how sad is it i had to google de pfeffel

Thats how little i actually know or care about politics other than stuff that directly affects me and that i feel I've no control over.

I had to Google ”de pfeffel” and “twunt”. Two new words to add to my vocabulary.

 

[Mikey RV]

Keep posting Tam, loving the thread and pics.

 

[The Lord Squid]

I'm sure he prefers you to refer to him with a nice cuddly, English sounding name so that's why i prefer to use his other name.

You mean Alexander?

 

[Northernraider]

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I had to Google ”de pfeffel” and “twunt”. Two new words to add to my vocabulary.

Oh i never did twunt .....i guessed that one but i best go check and see if i was right

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[chaser]

Wow!!! Googled it now

 

[intokenny]

Well twunt defo wasnt what i thought!!!

 

[Buzz67]

I,m very familiar with “Twunt”. Come across them all the time. Some English, some Scottish, some Welsh etc. etc. etc.
Good and bad everywhere.
Keep up the posting Tam, loving it, when it’s about the trip / motorhoming.

 

[StephandJohn]

Love your posts Tam. Gives me a boost to see the pics.
Ignore the naysayers. Thye dont' deserve any recognition.
Steph

 

[Northernraider]

Some dog attacked milo this morning ....this is the second day
Yesterday one attacked jade .. both times the owners slow to act or stand there looking stupid ...both times ive had to pu the other dog off mine and throw it at the owners ....the one this morning was biting at milo and had him by the throat ...i cant see any injuries but he's definately traumatized .....and i think he may be sore to the touch as he won't let me handle him

The guy yeaterday completely ignored me when i told him it should be restrained the guy this morning was at least apologetic

I know its in dogs nature's to fight etc but it don't half give you a fright when they are squeeling ....poor little mite

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[Northernraider]

I,m very familiar with “Twunt”. Come across them all the time. Some English, some Scottish, some Welsh etc. etc. etc.
Good and bad everywhere.
Keep up the posting Tam, loving it, when it’s about the trip / motorhoming.

As a fulltimer .... everything i post is my life in a motorhome

 

[Podney]

That’s very sad. Are the dogs from one of the other vans? Guess they think it’s their territory.

 

[Northernraider]

That’s very sad. Are the dogs from one of the other vans? Guess they think it’s their territory.

Yeah both different vans and in different directions ...i purposely avoided going one direction this morning after yesterdays issue .....so we went the other way

Most of the dogs here are fine and they all get along but theres a couple here and there that are pretty aggressive


Cant get milo to eat or anything

 

[Val 3 dogs]

Hope Milo hasn't had a lasting fright, he's such a happy easygoing little dog. Hugs for you and bigger ones for both dogs.

 

[Caggsie1]

This sort of thing really p...es me off. What right do they have allowing their dog to attack yours. I’m really angry. And no I don’t think it’s normal for dogs to fight. I’ve owned what is perceived as an aggressive breed, English Bull Terriers, not once did my dogs, had three together at one point, ever attack another dog. Something I wouldn’t allow to happen.

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[Zoobec]

Some dog attacked milo this morning ....this is the second day
Yesterday one attacked jade .. both times the owners slow to act or stand there looking stupid ...both times ive had to pu the other dog off mine and throw it at the owners ....the one this morning was biting at milo and had him by the throat ...i cant see any injuries but he's definately traumatized .....and i think he may be sore to the touch as he won't let me handle him

The guy yeaterday completely ignored me when i told him it should be restrained the guy this morning was at least apologetic

I know its in dogs nature's to fight etc but it don't half give you a fright when they are squeeling ....poor little miteView attachment 441122

Poor Jade, and poor Milo I hope there’s no repeat attacks and that Milo is soon feeling better

 

[Northernraider]

Hope Milo hasn't had a lasting fright, he's such a happy easygoing little dog. Hugs for you and bigger ones for both dogs.

I hate seeing either of them scared ....both are happy content dogs but milo has always been a little more timid ....thats why he barks at folk its more from nerves than anything but he's now very jumpy today so i hope it doesnt last .... he's feeling very sorry for himself and jade is mithering him

 

[nicholsong]

I hate seeing either of them scared ....both are happy content dogs but milo has always been a little more timid ....thats why he barks at folk its more from nerves than anything but he's now very jumpy today so i hope it doesnt last .... he's feeling very sorry for himself and jade is mithering him

Tam was that 'mithering him' or 'mothering him' with an easy slip of the finger?

 

[Northernraider]

This sort of thing really p...es me off. What right do they have allowing their dog to attack yours. I’m really angry. And no I don’t think it’s normal for dogs to fight. I’ve owned what is perceived as an aggressive breed, English Bull Terriers, not once did my dogs, had three together at one point, ever attack another dog. Something I wouldn’t allow to happen.

Yeah i think if their dog is regularly aggressive like that then they should keep them tied up when theres other dogs about ....both of mine like to chase dogs and be chased etc and milo is a barky dog but neither have ever attacked or went to bite another dog etc ....the way that one had a hold on milo i think if he wasn't wearing a collar he might not be here

 

[Northernraider]

Tam was that 'mithering him' or 'mothering him' with an easy slip of the finger?

Either or ... basically shes fussing , sniffing and licking him

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[Razamataz]

Some dog attacked milo this morning ....this is the second day
Yesterday one attacked jade .. both times the owners slow to act or stand there looking stupid ...both times ive had to pu the other dog off mine and throw it at the owners ....the one this morning was biting at milo and had him by the throat ...i cant see any injuries but he's definately traumatized .....and i think he may be sore to the touch as he won't let me handle him

The guy yeaterday completely ignored me when i told him it should be restrained the guy this morning was at least apologetic

I know its in dogs nature's to fight etc but it don't half give you a fright when they are squeeling ....poor little miteView attachment 441122

Be very careful
Sometimes a small bite is hard to find But may manifest to a weeping wound in 3/ 4 days after.
I definitely would be having words with the owner of other dog.
The whole idea of being a responsible owner is to look after your own dog.
The amount of people who let the dogs run free!!!!out of sight so that they can’t see them do sh1ts and do not pick up!!!!
I’m furious
Seething
Angry

 

[Northernraider]

Be very careful
Sometimes a small bite is hard to find But may manifest to a weeping wound in 3/ 4 days after.
I definitely would be having words with the owner of other dog.
The whole idea of being a responsible owner is to look after your own dog.
The amount of people who let the dogs run free!!!!out of sight so that they can’t see them do sh1ts and do not pick up!!!!
I’m furious
Seething
Angry

Yeah ill be keeping an eye on him ....cant see anything at the minute but he's still not himself so hopefully if he settles down later i can give him a good check over.

Mine have a fair bit of freedom here but they tend to stick fairly close by ....if they are out of sight for more than a few minutes im calling or looking for them

 

[Langtoftlad]

Poor Milo [and Jade], hope there's no lasting damage...

I don't know if this might be useful, just in case:
Veterinary Clinic - Kyparissia - about 16km south. No idea if they speak any English

Further away , a bigger operation, more vets, website in English so perhaps a better chance of English being spoken:
Kalamata Vet
But it's an hour or so away [toll route?] 75km

Hopefully won't be necessary

 

[Onemanandhisdog]

I've never had small dogs, my Ridgebacks soon realise they can look after themselves. The older one I lost in June was full of fun as a pup, happily playing with every dog he came across, until he was about 1 and two weimaraners bit him, he yelped and came back and stood between my legs while they disappeared, that day he lost his doggy innocence but he never took any shit from anyone from that day on and I'm quite convinced he would have given his life for me. But, they never start anything.

 

[Val 3 dogs]

Yes Tam, if Jade is licking a particular spot it might mean he has a puncture wound there. Puncture wounds are particularly bad as there tends to be very little or nothing to see on tbe surface as the wound closes up on tbe surface leaving any infection (from tbe otber dog's tooth trapped inside).
On the shock/nervous front, do you happen to have any" rescue remedy" with you as a couple of drops of that would help him.

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[carolyn]

I really enjoy your thread so I do hope you don’t get put off, I’m not even a doggy person but I rather like following the antics of your two. I am quite cross all the way from my chair in England about those two nasty dogs in Greece who have attacked yours two days in a row, no help whatsover of course!
Motorhoming has helped me overcome my fear of dogs no end but it doesn’t take much to upset it and I know it’s not the dogs, it’s the owners.

 

[Northernraider]

Well with exception of my mothers driveway this is now officially the longest I've ever been parked in the one place .....and going by what ive read in the greek news i think lockdown will be extended here till the new year.
There are worse places i could be stuck i guess but the days are becoming a little groundhog day like.

Tomorrow im going to have to go shopping as im out of veg , yoghurt beer and wine
And running low on juice and fruit ....so it will be a change i guess.

Off to the beach now for a bath in the sea and maybe take Milo mind off his traumatic experience ....then he might cuddle up on a towel for a sleep


The guy whos dog attacked milo has just driven past heading in the direction of the other dog that attacked jade yesterday so at least they now both in the same direction.

 

[Lenny HB]

Hope Milo is OK, I hate dog owners who don't look after & control their own dogs.

When I first read your post I immediately thought they had been attacked by strays I didn't expect the owners to be close by.

Of the hundreds of strays you get in Greece all the ones we have met have been very calm as they are used to approaching humans for scraps, only things I've seen them chase and bark at are cars.

 

[Reallyretired]

Its not normal for dogs to attack other dogs, they might growl and threaten but if they attack then its down to the owners and they way they've brought them up. If they can't control them they should be kept on a lead.

 

[Northernraider]

Hope Milo is OK, I hate dog owners who don't look after & control their own dogs.

When I first read your post I immediately thought they had been attacked by strays I didn't expect the owners to be close by.

Of the hundreds of strays you get in Greece all the ones we have met have been very calm as they are used to approaching humans for scraps, only things I've seen them chase and bark at are cars.

Yeah i have to say we have encountered lots of strays none have been aggressive ... most have been the opposite and just follow you home .... both of these owners stood and did nothing they didnt even call the dog or make any attempt to get hold of it ....the guy today at least kind of tried to apologize afterwards but only after id swore at him a bit .... couldn't help it i was annoyed and concerned so he got a mouthful from me about being an idiot and to watch his dog .

But neither of them looked approachable or reasonable people to be honest the guy yesterday was a german with an old van all covered in graffiti etc

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