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My money go's to this guy. He's providing funds to good causes, try asking him and see what he says!!!
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Some have said on here that the OP should just park on the road outside his/her house or that of their neighbour, but in some (and increasing number of) cases I understand that the covenants also cover the roads within the bounds of the private estate. These are “non-adopted roads” - not owned or maintained by the council.

The OP would need to read his/her specific deeds to see if the covenant covers the drive and/or the roadway within the estate.
 
A lot of new housing developments have covenants restricting caravans, moho’s and work vans.

At our previous property, a new development 10 mins up the road resulted in people parking their work vans in a roads on our estate roads.. caused no end of grief..

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suavecarve said:
PMSL
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Precipitarum Mono Septum Lici as they say in Latin.







I have no idea what that means but PMSL is loosely translated as P MySelf Laughing.
Referring to 50 % of all people who go to civil court lose.
 
best bet is to try to find out why he doesn't like it on your property, then try to reconcile with him, talking is always the best solution
 
Mine ( in fact a far bigger R-V), Not just a 7.4M, was on the drive all the time next door was for sale. Big enough to see. Don`t like, Don`t buy. I think the law says no right to View. We have friends who`s view across a valley which they enjoyed for over 30 years is now gone, due to developers building in the fields behind their house.:cry:
 
PeteH said:
Mine ( in fact a far bigger R-V), Not just a 7.4M, was on the drive all the time next door was for sale. Big enough to see. Don`t like, Don`t buy. I think the law says no right to View. We have friends who`s view across a valley which they enjoyed for over 30 years is now gone, due to developers building in the fields behind their house.:cry:
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The lack of a legal right to a view only applies to plebs. The rich and aristos have country houses in their own private landscape, well protected from development.

It is an injustice. The developers effectively steal the view because they get it for free, whereas the original houseowner will have paid a premium for the view, sometimes 30% above the value of a similar house with no view.

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joe and sue said:
In my experience and to my knowledge these covenants are put in place by the developer / builder to make the development look more attractive whilst building and selling the houses. Once all has been completed and they have gone off elsewhere, you can have a covenant removed,
How long have you been keeping it on the drive, was it there when he brought the house?
If all else fails park it on the road, if no parking restrictions, simples
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Good luck with that. Getting a covenant of this type removed or varied is an uphill task. I did a search to try to find a Lands Tribunal case report in which the application was successful.

Instead I found this 2006 case in which the applicants failed:

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWLands/2006/LP_34_2004.html
 
Billyshotts said:
Hi.have been taken to court by neighbour next door for having motorhome on driveway .have been to first hearing and the cost for lawyers fees was £2280 ?. Need to get judgement if a motorhome is classed as a caravan on the title deeds..the only problem is the cost to proceed further as lawyer has quoted a cost of around £15000 if I lose the case ,it's a cost that I can't afford to continue with unless I can get help with the cost .so iam asking all motorhome owners if you would like to donate to the cost of going ahead with the case so we can get this sorted once and for all..thank you
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A very Big no to a question that should not have been asked.
 
iandsm said:
A very Big no to a question that should not have been asked.
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I disagree, I imagine that a lot of people would be very grateful if there was a precedent found; and that a motorcaravan was actually treated different from a caravan when discussing covenants.

So crowdfunding on a motorhome site for such a thing is completely understandable even if not agreeable.

Just because a question is met with universal negativity does not mean it should not have been asked.
 
Jim said:
I disagree, I imagine that a lot of people would be very grateful if there was a precedent found; and that a motorcaravan was actually treated different from a caravan when discussing covenants.

So crowdfunding on a motorhome site for such a thing is completely understandable even if not agreeable.

Just because a question is met with universal negativity does not mean it should not have been asked.
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While I agree Jim, but I can see both sides of the discussion. If this happened to me, I would have to let my neighbour know I was going to park on the road, I would also let all the other neighbours know as well and the reason why. This would prove to be a very tricky situation, you see I live in a cul-de-sack (however you spell it:sick:), the road is very narrow and would greatly disrupt the going and coming back to the point of know one would be able to get past. But I would be legal though, but very restrictive...

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Flook said:
the road is very narrow and would greatly disrupt the going and coming back to the point of know one would be able to get past. But I would be legal though, but very restrictive...
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Probably not legal. There is an offence of unnecessary obstruction.
 
Flook said:
the road is very narrow and would greatly disrupt the going and coming back to the point of know one would be able to get past. But I would be legal though, but very restrictive...
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Maybe not.
It could be construed as an obstruction.
 
I wondered how fast someone would pick that up, yes obstruction, motorhome would take up two thirds of the width of road. So I would park it half on pavement, only if the neighbour went that far in the first place.
 
Flook said:
While I agree Jim, but I can see both sides of the discussion.
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I was only defending his right to ask the question. I agree about not upsetting the neighbours, you should always try and find some middle ground. Neighbour spats can get really out of hand and can even go onto effect the value of your house. Lifes too short for court cases with neighbours
 
Flook said:
I wondered how fast someone would pick that up, yes obstruction, motorhome would take up two thirds of the width of road. So I would park it half on pavement,
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And maybe commit another offence of obstruction?

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Billy buy yourself the biggest luton van you can park it on your drive and cut sume holes in it put sum old carivan windows in it let him start proceeding in cort ignore all the cort letters let him build up a huge legal bill then show him the V5 it wont say motorcarivan on it he will look like a right t£$%t :Eeek:
 
Sorry!
 
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Wildbill said:
Billy buy yourself the biggest luton van you can park it on your drive and cut sume holes in it put sum old carivan windows in it let him start proceeding in cort ignore all the cort letters let him build up a huge legal bill then show him the V5 it wont say motorcarivan on it he will look like a right t£$%t :Eeek:
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Unfortunately Bill most covenants also include vans
 
I think that the OP should have advised everyone what the initial issues were with the neighbour and what they had done prior to solicitors etc to diminish the issue. Ie were one side just being arsey about the MH parking on a drive. Were existing covenants in place, when we're they placed and by who. Have any other neighbours got vans or caravans on their drives. Etc.
Maybe then there would have been some more sympathy. Or advice pertinent to the Ops problem given.

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The parking of a motorhome in a cul de sac may or may not be Unnecessary Obstruction or Wilful Obstruction.
The neighbour would need to report it and then hope somebody comes out to ticket it.
If somebody does come out to ticket it you can then dispute it and have your day in Court.
If you were to lose then I think the fine would be somewhere less than £100 (It was a £30 FPN non endorsable when i last dealt with it) but a dam site cheaper to show the neighbour what would happen if he won the civil court case, and a dam site cheaper
 
Jim said:
I was only defending his right to ask the question. I agree about not upsetting the neighbours, you should always try and find some middle ground. Neighbour spats can get really out of hand and can even go onto effect the value of your house. Lifes too short for court cases with neighbours
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The problem often being, "try telling that TO the neighbours"?. They might not like my Motorhome being on my property. I might not like His Trees overhanging either, denying sunny access most of the Summer. (Theoretically). It`s a question of Ballance. Some folk are "so far up themselves" they cannot be helped. Live and let live means, do as they say! people like that are a menace to society and should get a life.

The answer to you cannot have your Mobile shed there, is a resounding "Why Not"?.
 
Wildbill said:
Billy buy yourself the biggest luton van you can park it on your drive and cut sume holes in it put sum old carivan windows in it let him start proceeding in cort ignore all the cort letters let him build up a huge legal bill then show him the V5 it wont say motorcarivan on it he will look like a right t£$%t :Eeek:
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Doesn’t help as the covenant will also include ordinary vans
 
I did have a problem with my next door nebor when i first moved in to my property he complaned abut my van parked on the road outside my house i moved it to his parking space when he went out
police were called nothing could be done.
I do have a drive but now prefer to park on road hes long passed away lived in this house 10 years now his wife still lives in the house with there son we don't talk but don't have any problems
bill
 
That's the joy of a MH, campervan, boat, if you don't like te neighbours you or they can move.
just a thought

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