Swivel seat security

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Turning seat round

Has anyone got any photos of how to turn seat round and drill and padlock it had a look yesterday but couldn't see any way this can be done ,I can put a chain round through the hole then lock it but would prefer to not have the chain .thanks
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The pin is put up through the hole a d the yellowbit down on top of it
 
Two on Tour said:
Yes.
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Sorry quotes wrong way around almost everything you need to know about using disc locks in these 2 threads. Even one about stickers someswhere. Amazing what a search or reading the whole thread can turn up
And now the question
Stealaway said:
Do you have to push the pin up through the 14mm hole from underneath the seat base?
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Cheers for the info, certainly going to give this one a whirl!
 
Warmleys said:
Thanks for the info. How would the Oxford lock fit in the hole?
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The different locks have different pin sizes which are typically between 6mm and 10mm I think

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I’m guessing I’m not going to be able to do this because I have part of the Alde heating system under my 2 front seats in my Burstner Elegance?
 
Just to re-kindle this useful thread, I have just ordered the Patriot Disk Lock From The Bike shop on Ebay, £38 delivered so good price was had. I will wait for it to arrive and install it, then I will know better what thickness packing washer will be needed.
I have The clutch Claw also, but thought a more visible deterrent would be a steering wheel lock, as even a partially sighted thief wouldn't miss seeing it, so I ordered the Popular Stop Lock for £29.90, I like the steering wheel Disklock also, but fell over when I saw the price of over £100 o_O.
I am gonna feel like a jailer carrying all those extra keys around now, might need to get the OH a bigger stronger hand bag.:giggle:
Cheers to all.
LES
 
Following reading this post some time back I brought the clutch claw and the motorbike disk lock, I already had the steering wheel lock and alarm, but I think with more visible deterrents the better I feel
 
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Can anybody tell me where I can get the security window stickers from, looks like a good idea to show security measures have been taken from the outside of the van.
Thanks.
LES
 
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I made this one in MS Word and encapsulated them

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TinaL said:
Can anybody tell me where I can get the security window stickers from, looks like a good idea to show security measures have been taken from the outside of the van.
Thanks.
LES
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You could try Kev and Carolyn they post on here see post 86.I received some myself recently.
 
i welded a roller shutter lock onto mi seat and the pin drops in through a hole in the base
 
This may be handy info for if you are wanting to fit a Patriot lock.

The info is all out there already posted, but not all in one post.

Short shackle in the locked position : 10.5mm gap
Long shackle in the locked position : 45mm gap

Short shackle: 40.5mm length
Long shackle: 75mm length

Length of shackle inside locked body: 30mm
( same for both locks )

Longer shackle length may be a problem if you have a narrow space underneath the swivel base.)

Unfortunately on the driver seat of my Ducato Bessacarr 2006 the overall width of the two swivel plates was 14mm.

So I bought the extended shackle Patriot ( the one for use with a chain), and padded the shackle underneath with M14 x 30mm diameter washers to make a snug fit. Maybe for "On - Off" usability, gaffer tape around all the washers to form one large spacer piece.

The window stickers I designed and printed out on normal paper. I used clear wide parcel tape, sticky side onto the printed side, trimmed off accurately any excess parcel tape around the edges of the label shape.

Layed out a length of parcel tape, sticky side up.
Carefully positioned the label shape ( unprinted side down, printed side up ) onto the parcel tape, so that width of the tape overlap was equal along the top and the bottom edges. Cut the end tape overlaps to be a liitle wider. This was ready to stick to the inside of tbe windows.
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pwilmo said:
This may be handy info for if you are wanting to fit a Patriot lock.

The info is all out there already posted, but not all in one post.

Short shackle in the locked position : 10.5mm gap
Long shackle in the locked position : 45mm gap

Short shackle: 40.5mm length
Long shackle: 75mm length

Length of shackle inside locked body: 30mm
( same for both locks )

Longer shackle length may be a problem if you have a narrow space underneath the swivel base.)

Unfortunately on the driver seat of my Ducato Bessacarr 2006 the overall width of the two swivel plates was 14mm.

So I bought the extended shackle Patriot ( the one for use with a chain), and padded the shackle underneath with M14 x 30mm diameter washers to make a snug fit. Maybe for "On - Off" usability, gaffer tape around all the washers to form one large spacer piece.

The window stickers I designed and printed out on normal paper. I used clear wide parcel tape, sticky side onto the printed side, trimmed off accurately any excess parcel tape around the edges of the label shape.

Layed out a length of parcel tape, sticky side up.
Carefully positioned the label shape ( unprinted side down, printed side up ) onto the parcel tape, so that width of the tape overlap was equal along the top and the bottom edges. Cut the end tape overlaps to be a liitle wider. This was ready to stick to the inside of tbe windows.
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Mounted like that you can't swivel the seat at all. I just mounted through the bottom plate, it stops the seat swivelling to the driving position but I can still swivel when facing the rear when lounging..

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Well yeah!! Lenny HB
That's the idea of a lock!!, to lock the swivel ..
When we are inside the van the lock is not used, so we can swivel away as desired.
 
pwilmo said:
Well yeah!! Lenny HB
That's the idea of a lock!!, to lock the swivel ..
When we are inside the van the lock is not used, so we can swivel away as desired.
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Just saves me having to take it off when I come back to the van, I'm a lazy bugger. :giggle:
 
Yup, that makes good sense.
I didn't have my thinking cap on .. I've only just moved up from years of "Cable Tie D.I.Y." you know.

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You should see my assortment of different coloured gaffa tape, and cable ties in all lengths.
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I prefer the lock the entire seat option. I wouldn’t use the lock whilst away in the van, only when parked up. I also think if you could rotate the seat too far, so it’s all the way facing the rear, you can adjust seat so you sit/prop yourself on the back of it and drive it.
 
Landy Andy said:
I prefer the lock the entire seat option. I wouldn’t use the lock whilst away in the van, only when parked up. I also think if you could rotate the seat too far, so it’s all the way facing the rear, you can adjust seat so you sit/prop yourself on the back of it and drive it.
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My son said it was too simple and he was determined to drive it with the seat locked--- he failed miserably and had to admit defeat.
If he couldn't manage it I'm happy nobody is going to be able to - a good mod and such a small light weight device.
 
Stealaway said:
My son said it was too simple and he was determined to drive it with the seat locked--- he failed miserably and had to admit defeat.
If he couldn't manage it I'm happy nobody is going to be able to - a good mod and such a small light weight device.
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You'd need rubber legs to get round the steering wheel 🤔maybe 😏

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Two on Tour said:
I looked at the practicalities of your statement of removing the Patriot security lock with a cordless grinder and I feel that at least in the way I have fitted mine that the removal with a cordless grinder are unfounded.

I own a Dewalt cordless grinder, the choice of most would-be thief's so offered up my grinder in many positions to try and get to the rear of the Patriot security lock to cut through the seat base plate as you suggest can be done and as you can see from the photos that this is not possible. So although you could cut up the sides of the lock, I'm happy that the rear can not be accessed.

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I would just cut straight through the body of that and have it off in minutes
 
We do know that you are not going to stop a determined toe rag with a cutting disc.
A couple of other devices might just slow them down enough though
 
Ive been reading this post all day and trying to do some work as well.
i notice a few have put the lock right through both plates and some just at the front through one as in the YT vid.
i have a boxer and i think it only works through one plate.
so im looking to get the standard lock, hope i`m right and it fits through without being to loose.
i probably need to order and look for washers once it comes,

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thanks in advance for any advice.

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