Sub 3500 kg A class

[Bessy765]

Is there a realist A Class under 3500 kg with a realistic workable payload, with a fixed low level bed. One that does not need a ladder to access

 

[headlight]

Is there a realist A Class under 3500 kg with a realistic workable payload, with a fixed low level bed. One that does not need a ladder to access

Not sure about the bed but Lenny HB new A class is under 3500kgs.

 

[Lenny HB]

Not sure about the bed but Lenny HB new A class is under 3500kgs.

Getting it uprated been running 300kg over.
It only had just over 500 kg payload.

 

[Donric]

Not sure about the bed but Lenny HB new A class is under 3500kgs.

Hello. We have recently bought a Rapido c86i A class under 3500kg here in France. We are very pleased with it and is a definite upgrade from our Pilote

 

[headlight]

Getting it uprated been running 300kg over.
It only had just over 500 kg payload.

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[Bill-H]

Might be an idea, before you agree to buy and hand over any money, to get it on a weighbridge as part of your test drive. Some new motorhomes are offered with very optomistic unladen weight and payload.

 

[dunnah01]

Hello. We have recently bought a Rapido c86i A class under 3500kg here in France. We are very pleased with it and is a definite upgrade from our Pilote

There's no way that weighs less than 3500kg when loaded.

 

[rambo]

few weight saving tips i would like to share .wear string vests and string pants. fill the food draw with rivita fill the fridge with chocolate moose.(not a real moose covered in chocolate thats weired )and if u want to get a bit flash and splash the cash and posh it up a bit get some ferrero rocher them things weigh sod all

 

[enark]

There's no way that weighs less than 3500kg when loaded.

Yes agree, 2945 empty is very optimistic

 

[cyberyacht]

We run our Carthago Compactline 138 at 3500Kg( 20Kg under). Two folding e-bikes, full provisions, clothes, fuel and water and fairly light occupants. Two steps up to the transverse bed.

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[Saucer]

Yes agree, 2945 empty is very optimistic

It’s also not double floored if that is what you are wanting an a-class for. We’ve got the C86 on order which we think is ideal for us. The i version is virtually the same apart from the wider cab.
We’re having our factory unrated to 3650 in anticipation that it’ll be tight weight wise

 

[enark]

It’s also not double floored if that is what you are wanting an a-class for. We’ve got the C86 on order which we think is ideal for us. The i version is virtually the same apart from the wider cab.
We’re having our factory unrated to 3650 in anticipation that it’ll be tight weight wise

In my experience, 3650 is still way too light, mine is uprated to 4000 and then we are ok. Thats the most the alko chassis will allow.

 

[Saucer]

The 3650 is a paper thing. What did you have to do to go 4000kg?

 

[Lyrick]

The 3650 is a paper thing. What did you have to do to go 4000kg?

Van Weight Engineering got ours up to 3960kgs as a paper exercise.
Front axle is 1960kgs on the auto version.

 

[enark]

The 3650 is a paper thing. What did you have to do to go 4000kg?

Needed rear air on the alko struts - fitted by SAP. May also need front shocks upgrade, but already fitted if 9sp auto by Fiat….apparently they have to for the weighter gear box over a manual?

Wheels already heavy duty alloys.

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[Pausim]

few weight saving tips i would like to share .wear string vests and string pants. fill the food draw with rivita fill the fridge with chocolate moose.(not a real moose covered in chocolate thats weired )and if u want to get a bit flash and splash the cash and posh it up a bit get some ferrero rocher them things weigh sod all

Cut the handles off your tooth brushes and fill the garage with helium balloons.

 

[Saucer]

Van Weight Engineering got ours up to 3960kgs as a paper exercise.
Front axle is 1960kgs on the auto version.

That’s good to know. Are you on the 140 or 180 engine? I’ve ordered the former and hope it will enough…though probably overthinking

 

[Bessy765]

Is there a realist A Class under 3500 kg with a realistic workable payload, with a fixed low level bed. One that does not need a ladder to access

The whole idea is if we don’t get my C1 entitlement this time may have to downsize (76) currently running a 2019 Burstner IEXO A class with good spec uprated to 4500kgs.

 

[LostInSpace]

We run our Carthago Compactline 138 at 3500Kg( 20Kg under). Two folding e-bikes, full provisions, clothes, fuel and water and fairly light occupants. Two steps up to the transverse bed.

Yes, it can be done.

We run our Hymer Exsis-i 580 at 3500Kg. One mobility scooter (with LiFePO4 batteries), full provisions, clothes, fuel and water and two occupants. No ladder needed for longitudinal rear beds over garage. If you can get in the van, you can get in the beds

 

[Lyrick]

That’s good to know. Are you on the 140 or 180 engine? I’ve ordered the former and hope it will enough…though probably overthinking

140 , and I don't find it short on power.

Patrick

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[Saucer]

140 , and I don't find it short on power.

Patrick

Thats great to hear thanks. (I'll stop hijacking the OP's threas now l

 

[Pausim]

140 , and I don't find it short on power.

Patrick

The 140 engine gets 30 more torques when combined with auto. Manual 350Nm, Auto 380Nm.

 

[Lenny HB]

140 , and I don't find it short on power.

Patrick

I've got the 180 with the Auto box has 450nm of torque I wouldn't want anything less.

 

[Lyrick]

I've got the 180 with the Auto box has 450nm of torque I wouldn't want anything less.

Don't see point in having the 180. Have done 10,000 miles since new and power has never been an issue.
Usual travel at around 60 mph, mostly in 9th gear, can't see a reason to pay more for something that's not needed.

Also averaging 30 mpg ,which I'm happy with.

 

[Guigsy]

I've got a 6m a-class. The van we ended up getting has the bed over the cab (which does need a ladder). Because the bed doesn't drop over the lounge, we can use the lounge while the bed is down. And we've still got high level lockers around the lounge, which we'd probably lose if there was a drop-down bed. So it being an a-class added loads of extra utility and storage to a relatively short van.

I did consider a 6m Globus with a fixed rear bed. But I wasn't convinced that it being an a-class added that much. The semi dinette wasn't much more spacious and the storage didn't really change.

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[Lizbiebrowne]

Cut the handles off your tooth brushes and fill the garage with helium balloons.

Replacing all the air in my Hymer A-class with helium would save about 30 kg.

 

[Lenny HB]

Don't see point in having the 180. Have done 10,000 miles since new and power has never been an issue.
Usual travel at around 60 mph, mostly in 9th gear, can't see a reason to pay more for something that's not needed.

Also averaging 30 mpg ,which I'm happy with.

I didn't pay more it was standard but if I had to I would have. My last van was a 150hp, the 180 is so much nicer to drive.

 

[enark]

I didn't pay more it was standard but if I had to I would have. My last van was a 150hp, the 180 is so much nicer to drive.

100% agree, the 180 with 9 sp is just a dream, easily handles my 4000 kg MH, sure it would be fine with much more too.

 

[Pausim]

My last van was a 150hp, the 180 is so much nicer to drive.

My last van was also a 150 and the new 140 is also much nicer to drive.

 

[Lyrick]

I didn't pay more it was standard but if I had to I would have. My last van was a 150hp, the 180 is so much nicer to drive.

Might be standard on yours, but it wasn't on mine.