no worried per se ... but wrongly classified as a van rather a Motor Caravan may affect
If it's a BMW van it is allowed in the BMW lane!
Exactly, as I said: We all know what we are doing, and what we own. Surely, it is not beyond the powers that be to be on the same page as us. Just a personal observation but, it if I was making the rules I would first consult with those who have to follow them.
But neither of those is the unladen weight which governs the speed limit.
That is another conundrum that I have just wrestled with. 3.05t, but from what base point....?
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I would think it is not as onerous as you suggest, prosecutions for offences have to be able to prove all the elemnents of an offence are present before it could succeed. The police would have to show it was a goods vehicle and subject to the lower limits, it is not encumbent upon the vehicle owner to prove it is not. In replying to an NIP simply stating it is a motorcaravan places the onus upon the police to prove the original assertion that it is a goods vehicle, something which they would clearly fail to do. I worked with CPS for best part of 30 years, they often struggle with cast iron certainties so anything contentious usually sees file 13 quite quickly. Or more politically correct 'not in the public interest'.
But, would it not be easier if the powers that be realised that they are behind the pace of life and get themselves up to speed with the enforceable legislation. I have been on this forum for a while now, and most of the posters seem to want to comply with, not cheat, the legislation in place. The police have enough to deal with IMHO.
How does a camera etc know the unladen weight. I can't see it on anywhere.
It doesn't, it picks you up on height then you have to contest it.
It automatically consults the DVLA database, which it shouldn’t do.
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To a certain extent that was my point, they would not pursue cases where there is no supporting evidence and I wholly agree that we are rapidly getting left behind by technology which would dispel these anomalies almost immediately. Joined up thinking across government agencies is sadly lacking, not always just due to funding issues, some are deliberately obstructive in attempts to preserve their own empires. Only got to look at the latest reports of government in-fighting that is coming out of the covid enquiry.
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, was struggling to get Van's registered correctly
I'll carry on plodding along then.
As old rat said no it doesn't. You dhould also pull the dart charge lot to correct it. Min looks like a van has no windows and is registered on my dart account as a campervan. 2 quid I think I pay?
It is up to you to tell them.
As said above you just tell them it complies as a motorcaravan znd to cancel said ticket or you will see them in court,+costs for all expenses when you do & complete with the letter stating it can travel at the higher speeds.
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Some years ago we took one of our cars to Germany and registered it there whilst we lived there. When we returned we still had the same car and applied to re-register it in the UK. Somewhere buried around page three of the application is the question 'has the vehicle been previously registered in the UK?' As the answer was clearly 'Yes' that question should have been at the top of page one, avoiding all the pointless entries between page one and the relevant question. Why is common-sense so difficult to find? The car was even re-issued with the original VRM and to the original address as we kept the UK house.I'm sure I read in one of the magazines, pre covid, that one of the major manufacturers.....Danbury maybe
If a big,long established firm was finding it difficult then what chance does any one else have
It potentially raises questions under GDPR where personal data on a data subject is required to be accurate, relevant and proportionate. If any public body either negligently or deliberately mis-records personal data they can be penalised and required to correct/delete where appropriate. The problem here is the generic description is true but not entirely accurate, to the man in the street it looks like a van with windows! The technical differences would only be known to an owner or the body responsible for the description in the first place. It does appear that agencies seem to duck out of tricky problems that cannot be solved by pressing a button. We suffer a little from the French legislative problems that we tend to create new law on top of old law and don't bother repealing some of the out of date stuff, hence we finish up with new defintions that do not always align with old ones.
Looks like a Motorhome/Camping car to me!
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Missed this earlier, but just to clarify that I was doing one of those things yes.
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Sorry to be the purveyor of bad news but section J is still marked as a goods vehicle N1. It should be M1. Don't feel too despondent, it took me 3 year and 3 months for the DVLA to get my V5 correct. Finally got it sorted by using the complaints procedure. And no explanation or apology for the time taken.
I understood that N1 / M1 was fixed at first registration, and could not be changed, no matter what else changed?
to be honest not particularly bothered ..
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