Site electricity usage - recharging electric cars???

[DelMar]

I can remember staying at Van Bitz for an alarm to be fitted, when it was an orchard, with a few places available for MHs, I think from memory it was a pound a shot. In those days we didn’t have all the gizmos we now have.

 

[Paul Wilkins]

Yes, there is a difference. Only electricity for domestic use is regulated in this way. Charging an electric vehicle is a commercial use & not subject to the same resale price limit. That is part of the reason some sites are installing dedicated car charging points & banning recharging vehicles via the domestic supply bollard.

Charging an electric vehicle is a commercial use? How is it different to charging an electric bike, a mobility scooter, a mobile phone or boiling your kettle?

Putting in separate metering and charging higher rates for EV charging at 3.1kW / 7.2kW is basically ripping people off. Its the same type of electrons that you get out of the wall. Now if you install 11kW three phase AC or 'Rapid' DC charging then that's a different matter, you have to install special infrastructure to provide this.

We EV owners aren't all as daft as we are cabbage looking (I think)

 

[Soycd]

Pay for what you use? As mentioned above most German stellplatz have meters now, usually about 50c-70c Kw/h. Seems a sensible approach to me. Only downside they are normally coin operated and in these days of card payment its more difficult to have the correct coins.

 

[Paul Wilkins]

Pay for what you use? As mentioned above most German stellplatz have meters now, usually about 50c-70c Kw/h. Seems a sensible approach to me. Only downside they are normally coin operated and in these days of card payment its more difficult to have the correct coins.

Ahhh the German folk are still a little plastic adverse, they still love hard currency.

 

[Soycd]

Ahhh the German folk are still a little plastic adverse, they still love hard currency.

About 15 years ago I saw a bloke having his petrol pumped out of his car at an autobahn fuel station as he only a credit card and they didn't take them! And yes, he was a Brit!

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[Lenny HB]

About 15 years ago I saw a bloke having his petrol pumped out of his car at an autobahn fuel station as he only a credit card and they didn't take them! And yes, he was a Brit!

40 years ago in Germany all garages only took payment in cash and if you paid for anything in a shop with a credit card you got charged 5% extra. Also they often wouldn't take Visa only Mastercard.

 

[eddie]

I can remember staying at Van Bitz for an alarm to be fitted, when it was an orchard, with a few places available for MHs, I think from memory it was a pound a shot. In those days we didn’t have all the gizmos we now have.

Those were the days, all got nicked eventually

 

[Brains]

40 years ago in Germany all garages only took payment in cash and if you paid for anything in a shop with a credit card you got charged 5% extra. Also they often wouldn't take Visa only Mastercard.

40 DAYS ago in Germany all the garages only took payment in cash!

The Credit Card companies had been warning for a couple of years, that after a certain date CC machines that had not had a major software update would no longer work.
The warning was widely ignored.

At the beginning of June the CC companies upgraded the software across Germany and Austria meaning that for many many companies the CC machines stopped working. The update took a couple of hours to run and had to be booked in advance. It took 10 days to roll out the update to the majority.

In the meantime we had to pay for a lot of things, fuel, food etc in cash.
I was amazed to see a Shell station on a motorway closed, as they could only take CC payments, they had no cash facilities at all. It must have cost that station alone tens of thousands of pounds in lost business.

 

[DelMar]

What got nicked Eddie, the apples or the electrics.

 

[eddie]

What got nicked Eddie, the apples or the electrics.

The coin meters, the trouble was that the meters were worth a lot more than the handful of pound coins in them!

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[TheCaller]

Charging an electric vehicle is a commercial use? How is it different to charging an electric bike, a mobility scooter, a mobile phone or boiling your kettle?

You will have to direct that question to Ofgen, or to your MP.

I suspect that for convenience, they make the distinction on the place of supply, rather than the actual usage. So any electricity resold to what Ofgen consider residential premises is classed as domestic & can only be resold at cost price. See the Ofgen document eddievanbitz linked to earlier in the thread.

 

[Brains]

The coin meters, the trouble was that the meters were worth a lot more than the handful of pound coins in them!

Now-a-days meters only take contactless payments.

As no cash involved you are less likely to get the local scum nicking your meters.
(You may however get professional thieves nicking the meters for resale)

 

[eddie]

Now-a-days meters only take contactless payments.

As no cash involved you are less likely to get the local scum nicking your meters.
(You may however get professional thieves nicking the meters for resale)

Nope it’s included FOC so no need for any inconvenience to our customers

It wasn’t local scumbags but guests

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