Single hardstanding bolthole - possible or not?

maz said:
Hoping to keep away from the 'agricultural' element as would need someone to look after the livestock when I'm not there. Suppose I could always tow a chicken coop behind the van ........ :BigGrin:
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Why!! You buy 6 chickens when you wish to move on, neck them, eat them, job done,full belly for the journey ahead.

Following year repeat. Outgoings Buy/Eat, Nil : enjoy.
 
Most farms and homes can have a caravan in the garden. If it's used as an extra room to the main building then its allowed, but if its used exclusively then you get planning issues.
 
My opinion only! I would look for an acre or two, away from houses and tourist areas, if it has a water trough all the better, a small shed even better, with good big hedges, probably about £20 to£30 thou, don't put a hard standing but some of the plastic stuff that grows into the grass to park on, don't do anything that isn't being done at the time, and get in touch with the farmer next door to see if he wants to rent your land in return for looking after yours, and if you havnt got water he might fix you up with that as well, just do it and don't worry , who can stop you parking on your own land, just because it happens to be a campervan
Is neither here or there, and as long as you don't pay over the odds you can always sell again, hopefully at a profit cause they aren't making it anymore.
 
Oooops the couple of sheep on the land also goes out of the window, besides not wanting to look after them on a continual basis--------the place must have a " Holding Number" to legally keep any cloven hoofed animals even as pets
 
Wildman said:
nope musical motorhomes would not work. Noting Jims post then of course raises another problem. That of actually getting a licence. If the issuing authority know what is going on then their licence is at risk so I assume a CFL would be out of the question, where to next. Like most things of this nature discussing them on an open forum effectively puts a stop to them.
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I would like to point out that I have every intention of keeping within the law/rules/whatever. Staying for up to the maximum 28 days at a time and then moving on is not a problem for me. I do not want to live permanently in one place and bend the rules to do so. I genuinely fulltime and have done so for well over 3 years. I am just toying with the idea of some form of bolthole that I can use from time to time.

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wasn't there a scheme that flopped I think? some years back where you could buy a plot on a campsite..I think it was in France
 
Many have done just what you want to do and we would love to do it, the secret is to make sure no one complains to the local authorities, not so easy now in moaning Blighty
 
good luck with your quest aires in France could provide what you need at no expence or legal problems. Failing that you could pay for a lot of CL nights with what it would cost for a plot of land. As said if you keep a low profile you might get away with it, the planners don't go looking for work but do act if people make a report. There are a number of community parkups around the country, lots of places to hide away in woods etc but no water, and solar no good in that situation. A water bowser could do it I suppose.
 
Tell them you are a Romany or a Traveler and want a pitch on one of the sites. :imoutahere:
 
Interesting thread this. We are at the daydreaming stage of buying two or three acres of woodland for up to about £30k, which is what they cost around here. Electricity will be a non-starter but we can live with that, back to nature and all that. Plumbed water would be nice but for short stays we could cope. One place we are going to view has a stream so providing it doesn't dry up in summer that would do, assuming it doesn't have too many dead sheep in it.

The thing I'm struggling with is the best way to deal with black waste. Quite a few options, but which is best?
 
maz said:
I would like to point out that I have every intention of keeping within the law/rules/whatever. Staying for up to the maximum 28 days at a time and then moving on is not a problem for me. I do not want to live permanently in one place and bend the rules to do so. I genuinely fulltime and have done so for well over 3 years. I am just toying with the idea of some form of bolthole that I can use from time to time.
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If you full time now , where do you park now, if it's not a personal question
 
DevonBeekeeper said:
Interesting thread this. We are at the daydreaming stage of buying two or three acres of woodland for up to about £30k, which is what they cost around here. Electricity will be a non-starter but we can live with that, back to nature and all that. Plumbed water would be nice but for short stays we could cope. One place we are going to view has a stream so providing it doesn't dry up in summer that would do, assuming it doesn't have too many dead sheep in it.

The thing I'm struggling with is the best way to deal with black waste. Quite a few options, but which is best?
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Just dig a hole , when it's full dig another, simples

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laneside said:
Oooops the couple of sheep on the land also goes out of the window, besides not wanting to look after them on a continual basis--------the place must have a " Holding Number" to legally keep any cloven hoofed animals even as pets
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Getting a holding number is no problem , you can get one for a pot bellied pig in a flat!
 
DevonBeekeeper said:
Interesting thread this. We are at the daydreaming stage of buying two or three acres of woodland for up to about £30k, which is what they cost around here. Electricity will be a non-starter but we can live with that, back to nature and all that. Plumbed water would be nice but for short stays we could cope. One place we are going to view has a stream so providing it doesn't dry up in summer that would do, assuming it doesn't have too many dead sheep in it.

The thing I'm struggling with is the best way to deal with black waste. Quite a few options, but which is best?
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If you read the info on those woodland sites it says most people dig themselves an 'earth closet'. A few I was looking at in Devon yesterday had streams/rivers with fishing rights which could even give a useful income.
 
Earth closet is certainly an option and the preferred one if possible but the depth of the water table must be a factor if it is a flat site with a stream. The medium tech option would be to sink a plastic tank and get it sucked out once a year. More elaborate options would involve an overflow from the tank into a length of perforated pipe.
Or perhaps we just dump in the wood and have a tame pig to clean up!
 
One way to check how nosy the neighbours are is to put signs in the windows "Survey in Progress" and to wear hi-vis when leaving the van.

See how many people ask what you are surveying (it's secret of course that you are surveying how nosy the neighbours are)!!!!!

I think you could get a week or two at least.
 
Can we be your first visitors please Maz will bring the M&S Cheese scones :)
 
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I've always wondered could you buy a bit of land with a lake on it then get a houseboat ?
You could fish off your veranda whilst looking at your pride and joy parked on your land , possible or not?


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someone on here had a small plot of land with river frontage and mooring rights for sale.
 
There's lots of moorings available ,however restrictions can apply and you still need certificates and licences.
I was thinking more along the lines of building a largish floating home on my own land and answering only to mrs Vlad ,possible or not?


Vlad

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Vlad The Impaler said:
There's lots of moorings available ,however restrictions can apply and you still need certificates and licences.
I was thinking more along the lines of building a largish floating home on my own land and answering only to mrs Vlad ,possible or not? Vlad
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Well a boat is not a 'permanent structure' - the planners wouldn't have a clue what to do



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anything is possible, where you build and live is not the problem, environmental health and the planning dept are the problem whatever you do.
 
I have a piece of land (1000ft x80ft - 1/3 acre approx) for sale adjacent to the offside bank of the Trent & Mersey Canal with end of garden boat mooring permission from the Canal & River Trust. Its for sale as I no longer have a narrowboat. However, when I had the boat, I put a 12 x 8 ft shed up to house the ride on mower and did'nt realise I needed planning permission.

Next door had hens and applied for permission to build a barn to process eggs and store food etc. They got permission and in so doing brought my little shed to the attention of the planning authority who told me to take the shed down. I applied for retrospective permission which was refused, and then I appealed to the Planning Inspectorate who have dismissed my appeal. Suffice to say the buggers next door haven't had any hens for three years now but have permission in place to build a barn. I have filled in reams of forms and submitted photos and plans but I can't keep a mower under cover in a small shed.

My recent closing discussion with the Enforcement Officer was that I was in negotiation to sell the land to travellers, but if you're interested Maz get in touch. When the barn project next door commences, then water and electric will be only a few metres away. I have considered buying an old horse box in which to store the mower. Another option I have considered is fitting a minaret on the roof and telling the planners I'm Muslim and I need to pray in the shed five times a day.
 
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Hi JJ, Roughly how much for say one third to half acre of land which is accessible by road and where motorhome could stay for several months at a time, please?

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