Self levelling

[ozzyhufc]

Hi what do people think of having self levelling fitted to your motor home
What are the pros and cons, yes I see very high price, but look a good thing to have
What do you all think. And have many of you had it done.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Millcourt]

Agree with all of the above advantages. Wish we had done it sooner but kept putting off because of the costs. Finally
persuaded SWMBO that “We can’t take it with us”. She was fully convinced when we had our first MoHo puncture 6 weeks ago.

 

[funflair]

Agree with all of the above advantages. Wish we had done it sooner but kept putting off because of the costs. Finally
persuaded SWMBO that “We can’t take it with us”. She was fully convinced when we had our first MoHo puncture 6 weeks ago.



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Its great being level and stable and is a good enough reason to purchase wheel changing and getting out of muddy fields is just an added bonus

 

[Birdy67]

Out of interest, what is the typical cost to have this installed?

 

[Mr porky]

Out of interest, what is the typical cost to have this installed?

5k to 6k roughly

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[Millcourt]

Out of interest, what is the typical cost to have this installed?

£6,500 in August this year, with SAP.

 

[Nanniemate]

I say go for it because if people don’t have a super expensive system fitted we wouldn’t have had these given for nowt.



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Did you get a free cat with every set

 

[Wee Bold Davy]

We've had E&P self levellers for 6 years fitted by SAP Doncaster, wouldn't be without them. Be perfectly level in less than 2 minutes without stress, fridge will work efficiently, water will drain from sink and shower perfectly, you won't roll out of bed!, there will be no 'bounce' while you walk about in the van (we use them no matter how flat the pitch is) and the van will be rock steady in the strongest gale.
If you ever get a puncture, so much safer and faster, no need to get your van sitting on a jack.
You'll get most of the money back when you sell your van or SAP will transfer it to your next vehicle if you want. Expensive, yes but it's the best money we've spent
Lastly if you don't use your van over the winter, use them to take the bulk of the weight off the tyres and save them from getting flat spots and cracking. It's win, win as far as we're concerned.

 

[dunnah01]

Not for me, I could never justify the cost and the thought of all those suspension bits hanging in fresh air makes me wince.

 

[Wee Bold Davy]

Not for me, I could never justify the cost and the thought of all those suspension bits hanging in fresh air makes me wince.

It's quite rare for us having our wheels completely off the ground

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[funflair]

Not for me, I could never justify the cost and the thought of all those suspension bits hanging in fresh air makes me wince.

Depends on the chassis design of course but ours has stops to support the suspension, if it can hold up a 7.5t van it should be OK with the weight of its own wheels.

 

[dunnah01]

Depends on the chassis design of course but ours has stops to support the suspension, if it can hold up a 7.5t van it should be OK with the weight of its own wheels.

Most modern suspension systems use silentbloc type isolators in the arms that are designed to be fitted at the neutral point when the vehicle weight is on the suspension. When the wheels are hanging in fresh air the silentblocs are fully twisted which is ok for an instant when going airborne but can't do any good if used for extended periods on site or in long term storage

 

[Cozz nd Keith]

Most modern suspension systems use silentbloc type isolators in the arms that are designed to be fitted at the neutral point when the vehicle weight is on the suspension. When the wheels are hanging in fresh air the silentblocs are fully twisted which is ok for an instant when going airborne but can't do any good if used for extended periods on site or in long term storage

Hi
Are you saying I shouldn’t park my van up with the wheels in the air?
I just had it serviced at Mercedes in Cardiff and they didn’t say not too when asked
Keith

 

[dunnah01]

Hi
Are you saying I shouldn’t park my van up with the wheels in the air?
I just had it serviced at Mercedes in Cardiff and they didn’t say not too when asked
Keith

If based on a Sprinter then the suspension has multiple silentblocs which are designed to be under no twist when the van is sitting under it's own weight. I may be being a bit over cautious but putting twist into these silentblocs for extended periods isn't mechanically sympathetic so I'd avoid it

 

[Landy Andy]

Would these silentblocs be altered after the conversion to a motorhome?

I know when I work on vehicles and fit new bushes, or some suspension parts then the final tightening is done at ride height. But my thoughts are that the basic chassis is going to leave the manufacturer fully tight, zero weight, then go and be converted into a motorhome. I very much doubt that anyone has slackened all the suspension and then had it all reset at its new ride height and weight, that is a motorhome

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[dunnah01]

Would these silentblocs be altered after the conversion to a motorhome?

I know when I work on vehicles and fit new bushes, or some suspension parts then the final tightening is done at ride height. But my thoughts are that the basic chassis is going to leave the manufacturer fully tight, zero weight, then go and be converted into a motorhome. I very much doubt that anyone has slackened all the suspension and then had it all reset at its new ride height and weight, that is a motorhome

It's the front lower arms that tend to give the problems as these rotate the most between full extension and compression. The difference in height at the front between factory and fully built moho is not very much compared to the total suspension travel so not a huge problem.
The rear leaf spring blocks don't rotate very much so not as critical.
If you get squeeking over bumps then the silentblocs are on their way out

 

[Cozz nd Keith]

If based on a Sprinter then the suspension has multiple silentblocs which are designed to be under no twist when the van is sitting under it's own weight. I may be being a bit over cautious but putting twist into these silentblocs for extended periods isn't mechanically sympathetic so I'd avoid it

Hi
Yes it’s a sprinter base,alko chassis. Does this make a difference? as it’s the rear driver side I have elevated on my drive

 

[Ditcha]

Most modern suspension systems use silentbloc type isolators in the arms that are designed to be fitted at the neutral point when the vehicle weight is on the suspension. When the wheels are hanging in fresh air the silentblocs are fully twisted which is ok for an instant when going airborne but can't do any good if used for extended periods on site or in long term storage

Does this count when it's on a lift having work done? I wouldn't think the main dealers etc would risk using a lift if it could cause any problems.

 

[dunnah01]

Hi
Yes it’s a sprinter base,alko chassis. Does this make a difference? as it’s the rear driver side I have elevated on my drive

Tha Alko rear has no silentblocs except in the damper mounts. It may even be beneficial to use the jacks as this reduces the strain in the torsion bars

 

[dunnah01]

Does this count when it's on a lift having work done? I wouldn't think the main dealers etc would risk using a lift if it could cause any problems.

It should only be on the lift fir a relatively short time so not really a problem and if the silentblocs does debond or tear the garage will charge you to replace them - win win