SECURITY OF MOTORHOME KEYS

I kept both sets of external locker keys on the same large key ring until I locked them inside a locker when getting a hosepipe out. I was at Brownhills at the time so asked if they had any spare keys. I expected there to be a few sets of keys used by Autotrail for its whole range so thought my problem was solved. One of their mechanics arrived at the motorhome with a large box of keys but none fitted. I was disappointed but also reassured as to the security of our lockers.
It took an hour of drilling out the lock before I could open my lockers😩 and, although I now have a button replacement, I have no idea how to put it together.
I now keep the two sets in separate places.
 
the1andonly said:
Yes
England
At least its not Grangetown "grungetown"
Nor a nice place like cathays.
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'At home keys not for immedeate use are kept in a keysafe hidden behind a wall in a locked room'

Even in Grangetown that might be considered a little overly security concious 😉

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I apologise for what is probably a really stupid question, but where do you get your non-remote keys cut? I just have the 2 remote keys (1 with us & 1 in a safe at home) supplied with my van in 2017 & probably should have a spare for when we go different ways when out & about! Thanks
 
Timpsons 2 x £75 = £ 150 . 1 x blind non chipped F.O.C. for use in water.
Mike.
 
on a similar subject if I lock the MoHo when we are inside with the button on the dash, If I then go out thro the hab door and close it behind me I lock myself out ! fortunately when I did the wife was still inside to open the door.
 
Boris7 said:
I think a bigger issue is key safety when your home, a MH was recently taken locally, the perp broke in the house took the keys with wheel clamp, crook lock, door and ignition keys undid the safety devices and simply drove off.

He also took the wheel clamp and crook lock.

And I suspect the insurers won’t pay up.
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My keys are hidden well away from the front of the house so that any thief is going to have to spend time in the house which is rarely totally unoccupied and event then the house alarm is on.
 
Minxy said:
Nah he wears 'onesies'! He's got different one for slobbing out, summer, winter etc and one specially for bed time!

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how come you have 7 keys in the set, suggests to me that each locker has a different key. I have one key for the ignition I(remote which also activates the alarm, plus one for the external lockers (all the same)

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This thread reminded me of something. We have owned our MoHo for 10 years and I now recall hiding a spare in one of those magnetic boxes soon after reading a similar thread on here. Now I need to crawl under and try and locate the sucker! Might wait until the spring though....
 
Ian Bosman said:
how come you have 7 keys in the set, suggests to me that each locker has a different key. I have one key for the ignition I(remote which also activates the alarm, plus one for the external lockers (all the same)
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van remote, petrol flap,milenco exterior door locks,obd lock, clutch claw, steering stop lock,internal lock
Water access key is in glove box.
 
Ian Bosman said:
how come you have 7 keys in the set, suggests to me that each locker has a different key. I have one key for the ignition I(remote which also activates the alarm, plus one for the external lockers (all the same)
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I thought you were asking me then! Good job Gus replied! :giggle:
 
BouncyBoatFolk said:
On this issue, I have just renewed our insurance with Aib. As a specific question [ one of many :rolleyes: ] I asked if having a set of keys on the motorhome, even if locked into a secure deadlock safe would qualify for their claims rejections reasons and was told it would .
I have had two spare chipped keys cut, and one unchipped [ dead] key cut. So we can leave the original keys locked up safely at home.
I asked the locksmith if there were any circumstances under which I would require an original key with me, and there were none he knew of, and spare keys could be cut from the ones he had cut for us. The dead key is for when I'm out in the water, but Mrs BBF fancies going off for a wander.
So it seems we must carry all the keys with us at all times, or risk one secreted about the van being found and used for absconding with the vehicle, and nullifying any claim we might try to make. It's a pain but, one we'll have to learn to live with.
On a brighter note, we have just got our log book back, and are now officially 4090kg total weight. :giggle:
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Out of interest how long did it take to get your log book back as I need to do this.
Thanks
 
Ian Bosman said:
how come you have 7 keys in the set, suggests to me that each locker has a different key. I have one key for the ignition I(remote which also activates the alarm, plus one for the external lockers (all the same)
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Forgot the key for the wheel clamp and the extra security on the hab door so 4 in all

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Winger said:
Out of interest how long did it take to get your log book back as I need to do this.
Thanks
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Hi, log back was back in my grubby mitts in 4 weeks, so not to bad a turn around.
Mike.
 
Cheers Mike
To be honest I got mine uplated about a year ago and was scared to send the documents away in case they mislaid them!
I have to do it now cos I bought another van and need to sell on.

Thanks for your quick reply
 
I recommend sending by Royal Mail Special Delivery (approximately £7)
DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1DZ.
This goes direct to right department. Check the document when you get it back to make sure the changes asked for have actually made onto the document !!
Mike.
 
All those locks at home yet the conspiracy theorists, anti vaxers, the doubters, the deluded, and the deniers all "Poo Poo" them as thieves can pick locks

All those alarms on homes yet the conspiracy theorists, anti vaxers, the doubters, the deluded, and the deniers all "Poo Poo" them as no one takes any notice!

Yet when we catch the thieves we put them in jail behind locked and alarmed doors!

Strange that!
 
dunnah01 said:
All these locks yet the windows are a bit of flimsy plastic 🙄
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Thing is, that flimsy bit of plastic isn't so flimsy at all and is harder to pop or break than any cab quarter light. I've not tried but the new fully recessed windows we are seeing, look like an even tougher nut.

Your car has a flimsy quarterlight, but I'm sure you still lock it.
 
Jim said:
Thing is, that flimsy bit of plastic isn't so flimsy at all and is harder to pop or break than any cab quarter light. I've not tried but the new fully recessed windows we are seeing, look like an even tougher nut.

Your car has a flimsy quarterlight, but I'm sure you still lock it.
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They may not 'smash' Jim but they aren't difficult to force open by pulling/levering them and breaking the catches as we found out in Pisa when ours was done along with a PVC next door with the recessed windows.
 
Coolcats said:
Have one set with us the other is kept at home in a safe, if we were to loose them, then it’s a hire car or plane to go get the other set may sound expensive but… focuses the mind on keeping keys safe.
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Expensive if all you do is snap a key. ;)
 
Minxy said:
They may not 'smash' Jim but they aren't difficult to force open by pulling/levering them and breaking the catches as we found out in Pisa when ours was done along with a PVC next door with the recessed windows
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In my experience entry by flimsy plastic windows happens many times less than popping locks or breaking glass. So saying windows are plastic, why bother with other security is folly. Which is the point I was making. IMO Plastic windows are not the weakest point of entry into your van.

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Sapper520 said:
Expensive if all you do is snap a key. ;)
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If the key is snapped in a lock it would have to be drilled out and a new key set I guess so you it would be expensive.
 
This method of course turns the alarm off if its plugged into the OBDP and operates from the original central locking ignition key! :xrofl:
 
Jim said:
In my experience entry by flimsy plastic windows happens many times less than popping locks or breaking glass. So saying windows are plastic, why bother with other security is folly. Which is the point I was making. IMO Plastic windows are not the weakest point of entry into your van.
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I've no idea which happens less only from what I've experienced myself and I'm not aware if there are any stats to show how MHs on their own are broken into as opposed to all types of vehicles, however I wouldn't use this as a reason NOT to have an alarm/tracker fitted - anything that can deter a would-be thief is beneficial as even though we didn't lose any stuff when ours was broken into it was a pain having to sort out the window to make it secure again. The thing is with extra security measures is that you need to make it obvious you have them which is why we bought some stickers to put on ours about it being alarmed as well as having the usual flashing led, if there's one nearby which isn't ours won't seem such an easy target.

One thing to watch out for with the flashing led is that it is definitely visible from outside as most are a little bit set back on the dash so if you close remis blinds it will block the led visibility (same with external blinds) so putting the stickers on at least shows we have one.

I posted about some cheap stickers the other day which for 89p are well worth having.

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10 stickers for 89p anyone?

This deal comes up every year, last time we got some 'vehicle is alarmed' stickers for the MH and previously some of our dogs, they are very good quality and don't peel off even when exposed to the weather...
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What windows? I have 2 small plastic ones ,one in each rear door. One is behind the immovable ladder, the other will be behind the immovable carrier.
If you smash the front cab windows you still cannot open the doors as the locking for them is only accessible from the rear.

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