Schengen rules

Manxcat said:
Please accept my apologies for starting this thread. I was hoping that there would be a proper answer to my question.
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I'll try again, @Manxcat:smiley:

See my posts #10 and #17 above - you'll find the correct answer there. The document states 30th March 2019 but that will have been substituted by 31st January 2020 - the end date of the transition period has not changed.

Wondering how many blocked lists I'm on......:unsure:
 
Pete5996 said:
After the WA is passed on 31/1/20, we will retain all our current rights - including freedom of movement - until the end of the transition period on 31/12/20.
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There is a possibility that this period will be extended if the F.T.A. negotiations are going well and we choose not to crash out.
 
PhilandMena said:
There is a possibility that this period will be extended if the F.T.A. negotiations are going well and we choose not to crash out.
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Indeed, but I believe the Govt have until the end of June to decide whether to ask for an extension and I think Manxcat will be wanting to get his holiday planning under way a bit sooner than that....:smiley:
 
The UK was never part of the Schengan agreement so from that perspective nothing will change as far as UK citizens are concerned. The transition period is totally irrelevant in this case.
Under the Schengan agreement the country at the "point of entry" to the Schengan area is supposed to check passports , visas etc. Once through there you travel anywhere within the Schengan area without having to show your passport again.
In theory if we travel to Europe say via Calais then our passport should be checked by the French authorities as we arrive in Calais. After that we can go to Germany, Austria, Italy etc without further checks. You may be asked for your passport at an airport if say flying from Paris to Berlin but that is only for ID purposes as we (the UK) don't have ID Cards. It's exactly the same as if you were a US citizen coming to Europe.
The UK never joined Schengan on the basis that the checks performed by some Schengan members were less than satisfactory and once into Europe people could go anywhere unhindered.
 
Manxcat said:
Please accept my apologies for starting this thread. I was hoping that there would be a proper answer to my question.
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The link in post #3 mentions right at the beginning travel rules will change if we leave with no deal. I can see no mention of the transition period which will apply now during 2020.

Posts #10 and #17 are the answer. Specifically the 90 days in any 180 won't apply next year. What happens after that is still up in the air but at least next year looks safe.
 
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Pete5996 said:
Indeed, but I believe the Govt have until the end of June to decide whether to ask for an extension and I think Manxcat will be wanting to get his holiday planning under way a bit sooner than that....:smiley:
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I think your new PM gave the definitive answer . No extension will be requested
 
Some stuff here from EU perspective.
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probably still doesn't answer the question though.
 
Pete5996 said:
Indeed, but I believe the Govt have until the end of June to decide whether to ask for an extension and I think Manxcat will be wanting to get his holiday planning under way a bit sooner than that....:smiley:
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This is the important post.

As things stand we are in transition until 31st Jan 2021. So everything remains as is.

The transition period may be extended. I have read reports that the EU may request that it is. BJ is unlikely to request it but may acquiesce to a request. All depends on what is agreed in next 12 months. Or whether we crash out without a deal in Jan 2021. Anything is possible.
 
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Why is it even such a dilema..
Whatever you do when you go abroad outside the EU....
DO THAT.
Covered all bases then surely.
 
In 45+ years of driving in Europe I have never been asked for any documents. But, I have my IDP and Green cards ready just in case, after we leave (regardless of transition periods), some Gendarme who is also none the wiser about the rules demands to see them.
I feel this is more likely when on our motorcycle tours or when towing a trailer.
Might save a lot of time at the roadside. Green cards have been free and the IDP was only a few quid.

Looks like we have plenty of time until really needed though. It's going to be thread content for some time I fear!
 

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