Schegen zone limited stay.

[Beast]

Hi those of you who have entered the Schegen zone are passports being stamped, if not how do the authorities know how much of your 90 day's have expired.thxs

 

[Gellyneck]

It does concern me when folk seem to want to know what happens if you overstay your "welcome" with this perhaps being tantamount to saying "can we and get away with it"? And, I'm not saying any responder here is!
What makes this any different for a non-UK tourist visa holder overstaying or an illegal immigrant?

 

[orridge]

Would it make a difference that they would be travelling through airports? Again merely speculating.

I wouldn't have thought so I use the Eurostar a lot and the French/Belgium border control seems the same as Folkestone/Calais or the Airports.

 

[Tykatem]

What happens if I overstay my Schengen Visa?

If you are being tempted to do such thing, you should just know the following things:

First thing that you should know, is that an overstayed visa never goes unnoticed. The immigration authorities have registered in their databases every person that enters and leaves the Schengen, and every overstaying, even just for a day, is recorded.

Secondly, intentional or unintentional, no overstaying is left unpunished. It could be a fine, immediate deportation or even getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.

Consequences of overstaying in Schengen Zone​

Despite that there is not a common policy for all Schengen Member States on the overstaying penalties, each of the states applies different types of penalties.

Therefore, the consequences of overstaying in Schengen territory, whether your visa or the permitted 90 days for nationals of the countries under the visa-waiver program, depend a lot on the number of days you have overstayed, and the country you get caught in. Germany is known to have the strictest immigration laws in the EU in this direction; while Greece is known for applying very high fines to those caught overstaying.

In general, all of the member states apply one of the following types of penalties for overstaying a Schengen visa or a permitted stay.

Deportation​

When you get caught staying illegally in Europe, you will totally be deported to you home country. The deportation procedures depend on your case and the country where you are caught. You may be deported immediately, within just a few hours or after a few days. On the other hand, if you get caught engaging in paid activity while overstaying your visa, or engaging in illegal activities, you will most possibly be taken into custody where you will wait for your trial. If you are found guilty then you will be held in prison or fined with a high amount of money. Upon completing the punishment, you will then be deported to you home country and banned from entering the Schengen for a specific amount of time.

Deportation is always followed by another consequence. Usually you will know about it before being deported, since you will receive the decision on you case. If you have just overstayed a few days, and you are lucky to be caught in one of the countries that go easy on overstayers, you may leave without another penalty.

Difficulties coming back to Schengen​

Even if you get back to your home country without any fine or ban, you should know that your overstaying will cause you problems the next time you attempt to enter the Schengen Zone. Immigration officers and border guards tend to be suspicious on people who overstay once, no matter in which country they were caught overstaying. Therefore, you will encounter difficulties on getting a Schengen visa or crossing the EU external borders.

Fine​

This is the most often penalty for overstaying a visa. Depending on the member state, the fees are applied differently. However, if you are caught after you have illegally remained in the Schengen for a longer time, aside of a fine being applied to you, you will also be banned from entering the Schengen Area for an appointed period of time, or even forever.

Ban​

Banning people from entering the Schengen is usually applied to those overstaying and working or engaging in other illegal activities. A person can be banned for a period of three years and more from entering any of the member states of the Schengen area.

What Are the Consequences of Overstaying in the Schengen Area?

Getting a Schengen Visa is never easy. There are a lot of documents you will need to collect and requirements you must meet. There is the interview and then the wait for visa processing. However, once you get the visa, you feel rewarded and convinced everything was worth it. To many, the 90-day...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

Pete

 

[gus-lopez]

Are you Residents in Spain? "no"

Scanned and stamped on the way in and the way out.

I thought you said your wife was?

The problem ,or not, with a British passport is that,unlike other countries,the number changes every time it is renewed. Here as a resident, I am meant to update them each time it is renewed as they have no way of tieing a new British passport to the old one.Not that I ever bother.
Only the UK possibly has that type of access & unless they made it available to the europeans they can't tie up new with old.

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[EuroTrotters]

I thought you said your wife was?

The problem ,or not, with a British passport is that,unlike other countries,the number changes every time it is renewed. Here as a resident, I am meant to update them each time it is renewed as they have no way of tieing a new British passport to the old one.Not that I ever bother.
Only the UK possibly has that type of access & unless they made it available to the europeans they can't tie up new with old.

No, She has Private Spanish Medical Insurance. Not a Resident. She wouldn't be here with me if she was. She has just been offered a Job in Spain. As have I many, many times. I am just not wanting to make the move. We have two daughters who live in the Middle East and one locally. My eldest who lives just a mile away with her husband and 3 children is what keeps me here. Wife would be permanent in Spain in a heartbeat. Indeed, I joke, she would be there before my ashes cool.

 

[Gellyneck]

Indeed, I joke, she would be there before my ashes cool.

Pssssst she was asking me a month or two ago if I was any good at striking matches! Thought it was a strange question but maybe sussed it now!

 

[jongood]

What happens if I overstay my Schengen Visa?

If you are being tempted to do such thing, you should just know the following things:

First thing that you should know, is that an overstayed visa never goes unnoticed. The immigration authorities have registered in their databases every person that enters and leaves the Schengen, and every overstaying, even just for a day, is recorded.

Secondly, intentional or unintentional, no overstaying is left unpunished. It could be a fine, immediate deportation or even getting banned from entering the Schengen Zone for a specific amount of time.

Consequences of overstaying in Schengen Zone​

Despite that there is not a common policy for all Schengen Member States on the overstaying penalties, each of the states applies different types of penalties.

Therefore, the consequences of overstaying in Schengen territory, whether your visa or the permitted 90 days for nationals of the countries under the visa-waiver program, depend a lot on the number of days you have overstayed, and the country you get caught in. Germany is known to have the strictest immigration laws in the EU in this direction; while Greece is known for applying very high fines to those caught overstaying.

In general, all of the member states apply one of the following types of penalties for overstaying a Schengen visa or a permitted stay.

Deportation​

When you get caught staying illegally in Europe, you will totally be deported to you home country. The deportation procedures depend on your case and the country where you are caught. You may be deported immediately, within just a few hours or after a few days. On the other hand, if you get caught engaging in paid activity while overstaying your visa, or engaging in illegal activities, you will most possibly be taken into custody where you will wait for your trial. If you are found guilty then you will be held in prison or fined with a high amount of money. Upon completing the punishment, you will then be deported to you home country and banned from entering the Schengen for a specific amount of time.

Deportation is always followed by another consequence. Usually you will know about it before being deported, since you will receive the decision on you case. If you have just overstayed a few days, and you are lucky to be caught in one of the countries that go easy on overstayers, you may leave without another penalty.

Difficulties coming back to Schengen​

Even if you get back to your home country without any fine or ban, you should know that your overstaying will cause you problems the next time you attempt to enter the Schengen Zone. Immigration officers and border guards tend to be suspicious on people who overstay once, no matter in which country they were caught overstaying. Therefore, you will encounter difficulties on getting a Schengen visa or crossing the EU external borders.

Fine​

This is the most often penalty for overstaying a visa. Depending on the member state, the fees are applied differently. However, if you are caught after you have illegally remained in the Schengen for a longer time, aside of a fine being applied to you, you will also be banned from entering the Schengen Area for an appointed period of time, or even forever.

Ban​

Banning people from entering the Schengen is usually applied to those overstaying and working or engaging in other illegal activities. A person can be banned for a period of three years and more from entering any of the member states of the Schengen area.

What Are the Consequences of Overstaying in the Schengen Area?

Getting a Schengen Visa is never easy. There are a lot of documents you will need to collect and requirements you must meet. There is the interview and then the wait for visa processing. However, once you get the visa, you feel rewarded and convinced everything was worth it. To many, the 90-day...

www.schengenvisainfo.com

Pete

All very laudable, is Pas de Calais within their jurisdiction?

 

[Coolcats]

Sure its possible But will they actually commit these resources for a few tourists?
Tbc I'm merely wondering whether there would be aa will to enforce it, I'm not advocating doing it.

Given it would be easy to do it’s just a lookup table in a database why wouldn’t they?

 

[jumar]

No, She has Private Spanish Medical Insurance. Not a Resident. She wouldn't be here with me if she was. She has just been offered a Job in Spain. As have I many, many times. I am just not wanting to make the move. We have two daughters who live in the Middle East and one locally. My eldest who lives just a mile away with her husband and 3 children is what keeps me here. Wife would be permanent in Spain in a heartbeat. Indeed, I joke, she would be there before my ashes cool.

Amazing just how much flexibility becoming a Spanish resident would have given to folk in your situation, as much time in Spain as you wish, returning to the UK for periods of up to 6 months duration.....3 months in other Schengen countries.....I understand your own personal situation, you have made that clear in past postings....but many others have decided to not take residencia because they would miss the grandkids, their home country, a Pint down the local....becoming a resident of an EU country post B***it has its advantages....and comes with many benefits....

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[Gromett]

Hi so we haven’t ha d our passports stamped through santander and we thought ihe 8nformstion must be in the chip. However I had to fly home for a funeral two weeks ago and was stopped coming out of portugal as the6 didn’t think I had left as Spain are not stamping. Apparently they should stamp.

I would suggest everyone keeps tickets/receipts of any travel into and out of Schengen for the medium term until everything settles down. Having independent proof of having left the zone may prove invaluable for a while.

 

[Scattycat]

I thought you said your wife was?

The problem ,or not, with a British passport is that,unlike other countries,the number changes every time it is renewed. Here as a resident, I am meant to update them each time it is renewed as they have no way of tieing a new British passport to the old one.Not that I ever bother.
Only the UK possibly has that type of access & unless they made it available to the europeans they can't tie up new with old.

I assume that although we are UK passport holders but registered EU residents with EU vehicles we shouldn't have a problem travelling within the Shengen area, until, maybe, if we take a visit back to the UK, even then our passports shouldn't be stamped.

 

[gus-lopez]

I assume that although we are UK passport holders but registered EU residents with EU vehicles we shouldn't have a problem travelling within the Shengen area, until, maybe, if we take a visit back to the UK, even then our passports shouldn't be stamped.

With the new Cards there is no problem within schengen in fact you do not even need a passport. Fo Uk in /ot give the card first before passport

 

[Scattycat]

With the new Cards there is no problem within schengen in fact you do not even need a passport. Fo Uk in /ot give the card first before passport

Thanks for that, I hadn't thought about offering the residency card first. Makes sense

 

[spitfire]

Thanks for that, I hadn't thought about offering the residency card first. Makes sense

It is recommended to do so

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[EuroTrotters]

I would suggest everyone keeps tickets/receipts of any travel into and out of Schengen for the medium term until everything settles down. Having independent proof of having left the zone may prove invaluable for a while.

I’m double chipped

Amazing just how much flexibility becoming a Spanish resident would have given to folk in your situation, as much time in Spain as you wish, returning to the UK for periods of up to 6 months duration.....3 months in other Schengen countries.....I understand your own personal situation, you have made that clear in past postings....but many others have decided to not take residencia because they would miss the grandkids, their home country, a Pint down the local....becoming a resident of an EU country post B***it has its advantages....and comes with many benefits....

Then there are finances !

 

[Boris7]

Interesting how Irish “Travellers” or Pykies as some call them are now more welcome than the British.