Safefill bottles connecting & filling abroad

[n8ess]

I am looking at my options for refillable bottles and l like the idea of the removable option. Can you refill these whilst they are situated in the locker or is this generally not an acceptable method? We are embarking on our first trip to France in the summer. I currently have 13 & 6kg calor set up but l know that the options for replacements are limited in France.

 

[Stealaway]

Never been a problem except at Total garages. Take the correct French Safefill adapter.

 

[Emmit]

Anedotal evidence suggests that by opening the Gas Locker to fill up you may
be signalling to those at the garage that you are attempting to illegally fill a
'Calor' type bottle.

Alternatively, there are those on here who have Safefill type bottles who have
encountered no problems in filling.

You pays your money and takes your choice.

 

[Reallyretired]

I would not get safefill myself as one of the conveniences of refillable gas is not having to disconnect , lug heavy bottles about and then reconnect.
I can see the point for a tugger as the bottle could be taken in the car to refill.

 

[Stealaway]

I would not get safefill myself as one of the conveniences of refillable gas is not having to disconnect , lug heavy bottles about and then reconnect.
I can see the point for a tugger as the bottle could be taken in the car to refill.

Why would you think you need to lug any bottles any where?
Beside being the lightest bottle on the market they are designed and easily refilled inside the locker.
I never take mine out the locker.

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[Reallyretired]

Why would you think you need to lug any bottles any where?
Beside being the lightest bottle on the market they are designed and easily refilled inside the locker.
I never take mine out the locker.

If I had them it wouldn't be great to refill in the locker, as the gas locker is in the garage, so the chuff on disconnecting would hang about. I have Alugas which are pretty light. External filler.

 

[Kayak Kid]

There is a another useful thread below that might be worth reading!

Safefill bottles

Hi everyone , considering buying a safefill refillable bottle. Your opinion,s on them please ie any problems with using them in Europe.

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

 

[tonka]

I have only ever had to fill up once in germany, opened the locker and filled ok. Then who's to say anyone was watching.
Ref "lugging heavy bottles" check how light they are !!
Safefill suits me as i have 2 x 10kg bottles and an independent supplier 1 mile away.
I use my car to take the bottles for filling, just easier on the parking.
This way i always leave home full before any trip.

There is a plus and minus to every installation.
Read on here and you will find people who have been refused to fill even with filled systems like gasit / gaslo / alugas.

Maybe try 1 safefill (with the correct adapter) and use that, filling as and when you can. Save the calor for standby.

 

[n8ess]

I have only ever had to fill up once in germany, opened the locker and filled ok. Then who's to say anyone was watching.
Ref "lugging heavy bottles" check how light they are !!
Safefill suits me as i have 2 x 10kg bottles and an independent supplier 1 mile away.
I use my car to take the bottles for filling, just easier on the parking.
This way i always leave home full before any trip.

There is a plus and minus to every installation.
Read on here and you will find people who have been refused to fill even with filled systems like gasit / gaslo / alugas.

Maybe try 1 safefill (with the correct adapter) and use that, filling as and when you can. Save the calor for standby.

I think this option may suit my purposes, I had a diesel heater fitted a couple of months back to minimise my reliance on gas.

 

[MisterB]

Has anyone fitted their safefill bottle(s) in such a way as they are filled via an external connection?

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[Stealaway]

Has anyone fitted their safefill bottle(s) in such a way as they are filled via an external connection?

Its not possible as there is only one inlet/outlet.
Its just not what they were designed for.

 

[Lenny HB]

Has anyone fitted their safefill bottle(s) in such a way as they are filled via an external connection?

Not easy to do a normal refillable bottle has a non return valve in the bottle where the filler hose connects & the filler point has a non return valve. Also as the bottle is a single hole you would have to connect and disconnect the filler hose each time.

 

[tonka]

Has anyone fitted their safefill bottle(s) in such a way as they are filled via an external connection?

Some people have done it. But NOT RECOMMENDED.

 

[tonka]

Double post. Whoops

 

[cyberyacht]

I've refilled my Safefill bottle on one occasion without issue in France. Whilst one can't extrapolate universal acceptance from that, I wouldn't worry too much. There's always somewhere. One thing to bear in mind is that the Safefill adapters have a LH thread to fit the POL connection unlike the remote "Gaslow" type socket which has a RH thread, so Safefill adapters will not fit a "Gaslow" socket.

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[donkey]

Obviously a lot of you transport your cylinders to the filling station in the boot of your cars. It has always been a no-no to transport them other than upright with the valve uppermost. Is this not a bit difficult in many car boots?

Geoff

 

[Stealaway]

Obviously a lot of you transport your cylinders to the filling station in the boot of your cars. It has always been a no-no to transport them other than upright with the valve uppermost. Is this not a bit difficult in many car boots?

Geoff

Although I've only done it a couple of times, they go in my Ford Fiesta a treat.

 

[Windy66]

I have Gaslow bottles with a pipe connected to the cabinet door. Refilling is by leaving the cabinet door shut and twist opening the cover for the inlet.
Just like filling a car lpg tank really.

 

[ChrisL]

I was challenged on a French motorway fuel station, even with an external filler, about what the gas was for, I fibbed and said for the engine and he shrugged his shoulders and turned the pump on but knew I wasn't being truthful, I don't think I would have got away with it if i'd have to open the locker.

 

[Emmit]

I was challenged on a French motorway fuel station, even with an external filler, about what the gas was for, I fibbed and said for the engine and he shrugged his shoulders and turned the pump on but knew I wasn't being truthful, I don't think I would have got away with it if i'd have to open the locker.

That's you banned from heaven then.

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[Lenny HB]

I was challenged on a French motorway fuel station, even with an external filler, about what the gas was for, I fibbed and said for the engine and he shrugged his shoulders and turned the pump on but knew I wasn't being truthful, I don't think I would have got away with it if i'd have to open the locker.

Had a similar problem in Portugal, a woman came running out shouting "We don't fill bottles", I pointed at the filler and said it was a tank, she was OK with that.

 

[Stealaway]

I was challenged on a French motorway fuel station, even with an external filler, about what the gas was for, I fibbed and said for the engine and he shrugged his shoulders and turned the pump on but knew I wasn't being truthful, I don't think I would have got away with it if i'd have to open the locker.

I think it because they don't want to be bothered with selling a few quid's worth of gas to the likes of us.
They want to sell a tank full to the Dacia types gas car owners.

 

[GeeCee]

Obviously a lot of you transport your cylinders to the filling station in the boot of your cars. It has always been a no-no to transport them other than upright with the valve uppermost. Is this not a bit difficult in many car boots?

Geoff

I put mine upright on the back seat and strap it in using the seat belt when I go to fill it up. I also leave the rear window ever so slightly open just in case there's the slightest leakage.

 

[Lenny HB]

I put mine upright on the back seat and strap it in using the seat belt when I go to fill it up. I also leave the rear window ever so slightly open just in case there's the slightest leakage.

LPG is heavier than air, you need a hole in the floor.

 

[Reallyretired]

LPG is heavier than air, you need a hole in the floor.

Some of the cars in my youth would have been ideal then

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[Peregrinator]

Never been a problem except at Total garages. Take the correct French Safefill adapter.View attachment 714119

Do you have to fill one bottle at a time? only reason I asked, because I have Gasit, and a couple of times when filling, I disconnected the gun, and every time I had to go to the casher to say I am not finished and want to continue, do you have to do this, or do you have a way of getting around this?

 

[Lenny HB]

Do you have to fill one bottle at a time? only reason I asked, because I have Gasit, and a couple of times when filling, I disconnected the gun, and every time I had to go to the casher to say I am not finished and want to continue, do you have to do this, or do you have a way of getting around this?

Yes you do they are only a single hole bottles.
This having to get the cashier to reset if you stop filling only appears to happen on UK pumps.

 

[Stealaway]

Do you have to fill one bottle at a time? only reason I asked, because I have Gasit, and a couple of times when filling, I disconnected the gun, and every time I had to go to the casher to say I am not finished and want to continue, do you have to do this, or do you have a way of getting around this?

Yep as above the cashier doesn't always give you time to fill the second bottle.
It only happens to me occasionally as I only ever tend to fill one bottle at a time --- when its completely empty

 

[Squaddie]

I have both, an underslung 30 litre Tank and 2 x 11kg Gas it refillable cylinders, Cannot do without my Sunday dinners and shower, plus heating if its cold,

 

[GeeCee]

LPG is heavier than air, you need a hole in the floor.

OK didn't know that. I imagine the open window will cause some circulation or at least dilution of the LPG in the vehicle, so may not be a complete waste of time.