Retesting LPG Refillable Cylinders

Based on my last year's gas consumption (90L), I've saved around £150 over the cost of Calor exchanges so, depending on your usage, you can write off the capital cost of cylinders over far less than their lifetime. If you are always on hook-up and only use your van for four or five weeks a year, then it is probably not worth getting refillables otherwise it's a total no-brainer..
Very few customers are actually interested in the financial benefits it’s actually all about the convenience of not having to change heavy cylinders and the ability to top up .
 
The Gaslow site has a page on recertification /testing of cylinders, or rather an exchange scheme. From my reading the scheme is for £99 (inc vat) per cylinder you can take your cylinder there and have them exchanged for certified ones etc. Gaslow cylinders are ‘certified’ for 15 years. At least that’s the way I’m reading it.....or am I getting it wrong!

 
Very few customers are actually interested in the financial benefits it’s actually all about the convenience of not having to change heavy cylinders and the ability to top up .
Wow I’m amazed at that there’s obviously plenty of money still flying around the leisure sector then.
 
Still really need retest/ replacement at 10 years 👍
I’m not with you here Minxy, the same applies to yours, replace at 10 years as can’t get them tested?
I'm not on about the retesting requirement, I'm on about the terrible condition, I'm surprise it was still safe to use FOR 10 years, if I saw an underslung tank like that after 5 years I'd be replacing it!

As for my cylinders, I have a Gaslow one which has a 15 year 'life' and a newer 10 year 'life' one, so neither is at their test-by date yet, the 15 year one is due in 2023 and the 10 year one in 2027 so I'll be looking at replacing/retesting early next year for the older one.

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The Gaslow site has a page on recertification /testing of cylinders, or rather an exchange scheme. From my reading the scheme is for £99 (inc vat) per cylinder you can take your cylinder there and have them exchanged for certified ones etc. Gaslow cylinders are ‘certified’ for 15 years. At least that’s the way I’m reading it.....or am I getting it wrong!

No that's exactly as I read it and where I'll be going if they're still doing it next year.
 
The Gaslow site has a page on recertification /testing of cylinders, or rather an exchange scheme. From my reading the scheme is for £99 (inc vat) per cylinder you can take your cylinder there and have them exchanged for certified ones etc. Gaslow cylinders are ‘certified’ for 15 years. At least that’s the way I’m reading it.....or am I getting it wrong!

Now that sounds much better than having the whole lot replaced.
 
I looked into retesting of cylinders prior to buying refillable’s and the potential difficulties in getting any recertification done. When I saw this on the Gaslow site it is one of the reasons I chose the Gaslow system.....I just hope it’s still the same scheme when it comes time to retest/exchange!
 
Is the recertification not from a year or two back that was stopped? I can view it from the links above but if I go t9 Gaslow then search for recertification there are no results. Is the link just going to an outdated page?
 
I’ve just visited site again....if you click on the refillable cylinder you want in the shop section then look at the description....at the bottom is a link to FAQ technical and products, if you open that then scroll down to exchange scheme........there’s maybe an easier way but that’s how I got to it!

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I’ve just visited site again....if you click on the refillable cylinder you want in the shop section then look at the description....at the bottom is a link to FAQ technical and products, if you open that then scroll down to exchange scheme........there’s maybe an easier way but that’s how I got to it!
So this is so different to what Basildog has said and so much cheaper.
 
Strange isn't it when you think you can get Scuba Diving/Air Rifle tanks tested at your local refilling shop (at least you used to be able too). I would think Scuba tanks are pressurised to a much higher psi than gas cylinders.
Scuba cylinders (last time I looked) need an internal visual check every 2.5 years and hydrostatic (overpressured) testing every 5 years. But they also operate at far higher pressures than the LPG cylinders, a standard scuba being filled to 232 bar. If your cylinder is used for Nitrox (an Oxygen enriched gas, or Helium) then the cylinder will need cleaning internally every year (most filling systems can add the required amount of oxygen first before topping up with helium / air, and as oxygen aids combustion, the heat of the filling process - cylinders are often dunked in water tanks during fills - could react with even the smallest amount of grease or oil that was present perhaps from an earlier poorly filtered compressor). Few scuba shops do this in house and will send off to the specialist workshop service centre. Since the testing is so frequent, but also labour intensive, being a largely manual individual process, it is viable for a few specialists to exist. It's not uncommon for cylinders to need shotblasting internally to clear corrosion, even externally before a repaint. Many tests fail on the cylinder neck threads which are inevitably strained on each fill and any removal of the valve for servicing.
 
My Alugas ones are in date until 2023, if we change vans depending on the model we go for may or may not be able to transfer then as they are the 14 kg ones. So if l still have them I will combine a visit to the factory in Germany with a trip.
 
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So this is so different to what Basildog has said and so much cheaper.
That’s for the older type of Gaslow cylinders, yes Gaslow have had several hundred cylinders recertified and it’s them who have been told they will require 1500 minimum for another batch to be done , hence why I said it looking doubtful that they will do more .
Also as with many things in the gas industry the valve manufacturers state replacement at 10 years not 15 ⚠️
 
Just checked on the Gasit website and it's not mandatory to have them rechecked after 10 years if they are privately owned. Its only advisory.
Interestingly after reading your post we have been doing some further research into this and have asked a few different industry experts about this .
They would all love to see the document from which Gasit have come to this conclusion ?
Perhaps you could ask them to provide the relevant information and which standards are they quoting ?
It’s a pressure vessel and requires recertification/ replacement is definitely the majority of the gas industries understanding regardless of ownership.

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I have 2 Alugas cylinders. When I have to buy new ones how do I dispose of the old ones?
 
A lot cheaper to pop over to Germany and get them tested & recertified.
I agree but not an option for me at present because we need to stay reasonably close to my elderly and confused mother in law. Circumstances may have changed by the time the cylinders go out of date.
 
Strange isn't it when you think you can get Scuba Diving/Air Rifle tanks tested at your local refilling shop (at least you used to be able too). I would think Scuba tanks are pressurised to a much higher psi than gas cylinders.
I was just thinking the same when i used dive there was a visual test then a hydrostatic test that basiclly pumped the cylinder to 400bar if it didbt blow put the valve back in away you go
 
I was just thinking the same when i used dive there was a visual test then a hydrostatic test that basiclly pumped the cylinder to 400bar if it didbt blow put the valve back in away you go
Much higher pressures than LPG but perhaps the difference lies in the contents. When empty the scuba tank contains air whereas the the empty LPG tank contains highly flammable substances. I am guessing that opening and inspecting our LPG bottles first involves removing and disposing of dangerous gases and residues. Still I would hope that someone somewhere in the UK would see some business potential in setting up to do this.

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A lot cheaper to pop over to Germany and get them tested & recertified.
Much higher pressures than LPG but perhaps the difference lies in the contents. When empty the scuba tank contains air whereas the the empty LPG tank contains highly flammable substances. I am guessing that opening and inspecting our LPG bottles first involves removing and disposing of dangerous gases and residues. Still I would hope that someone somewhere in the UK would see some business potential in setting up to do this.
Knowing how the gas cylinders are processed by the company that does the gas cylinders for the big exchange cylinder companies, it’s never going to happen .
 
A lot cheaper to pop over to Germany and get them tested & recertified.
1300 miles round trip from here ?
Running a Motorhome that distance unless passing is going to be way more expensive than replacement 👍
 
1300 miles round trip from here ?
Running a Motorhome that distance unless passing is going to be way more expensive than replacement 👍
A lot of people will be combining with a holiday, we go to Germany regularly and didn’t know you could get this done until this thread. It needs to be promoted more.

It sounds from your tone like you are preferring people to get the whole system replaced and not checked. In the long run this could seriously backfire on your business, imagine the selling point if you can promote that after 10 years you can get your system checked cheaply.

I can imagine loads of people considering a Motorhome and reading this thread thinking, stuff it we’ll go for diesel heating.
 
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Less than 800 for us but we would combine it with a trip so effectively zero.
What's the cost of the testing Lenny?

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What's the cost of the testing Lenny?
Keep up girl, Bob posted a link to his thread when he got them done. €74.50 in 2020.
 
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Keep up girl, Bob posted a link to his thread when he got them done. €74.50 in 2020.
I thought you'd have the up-to-date price Lenny seeing as you're telling us it's so much cheaper than here :giggle:... as with everything else it might have gone up stupidly or the might have taken umbridge and won't test UK ones now (a la France with doing dog passports!). :rolleyes:
 
It's alright I'm sure someone on ebay will start selling the right colour paint and templates for spraying a new expiry date on the bottles 🤦‍♂️

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This thread has been informative for me too as it’s confirmed that we actually shouldn’t be filling cylinders / tanks that are out of test ⚠️
According to the guidance we are required to check before filling , certainly something we now have to consider .
 

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