Replacing Gel Batteries with Lithium - Hassle-Free?

[EuroTrotters]

That's not the one RogerIvy means. Victron are just introducing a new Orion version, which now does what the older Orion should have done all the time! It will be a bit more than the existing 30A Orion, but includes a lot more facilities, as well as the additional 20A output. Looks like being a good bit of kit.

See orion-xs-12-12-50a

Thanks, so I think I can wait.

 

[EuroTrotters]

battery ordered

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Next Step 30 amp Victron B2B me thinks

Glad I didn't Hesitate !

Gone back up from £300 to £370 today

 

[EuroTrotters]

...or wait a bit for the new Victron 50A Buckboost

It was developed because the newer intelligent alternators are very bad at fully charging any leisure battery, and are particularly bad with lithium batteries. So there is more of a market nowadays for a DC-DC charger. However it works with all types of alternator, including non-intelligent standard alternators.

That's not the one RogerIvy means. Victron are just introducing a new Orion version, which now does what the older Orion should have done all the time! It will be a bit more than the existing 30A Orion, but includes a lot more facilities, as well as the additional 20A output. Looks like being a good bit of kit.

See orion-xs-12-12-50a

Is this the one you are referring to ?

Victron Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger - ORI121217040 | Batteries & Solar

Batteries & Solar offers a diverse selection of chargers and accessories, with prompt deliveries from our Plymouth, Devon office. For inquiries about battery chargers, DC-DC chargers, or any other chargers, please contact us at 01752 656270 and our sales team will be happy to help.

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[RogerIvy]

Is this the one you are referring to ?

Victron Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger - ORI121217040 | Batteries & Solar

Batteries & Solar offers a diverse selection of chargers and accessories, with prompt deliveries from our Plymouth, Devon office. For inquiries about battery chargers, DC-DC chargers, or any other chargers, please contact us at 01752 656270 and our sales team will be happy to help.

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Yes that’s the one.

It‘s on a pre-order special for £299

Victron Energy Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger — Offgrid Power Solutions

This product is in stock at our UK warehouse and will ship next working day. Engineered from the ground up, the Orion XS redefines adaptive DC-DC charging. For use in dual battery systems charged with an (intelligent) alternator. This device not only ensures top-tier performance but also guarante

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[EuroTrotters]

With a Schaudt Electroblock EBL99 it's very simple. There are two ways to do it.

If it's a 30A B2B then you can route the amps through the EBL. To do this, mount the B2B near the EBL. Disconnect the thick starter battery wire from the back of the EBL, and connect it to the starter battery input of the B2B. Then run a new wire of the same thickness from the output of the B2B to the starter battery terminal at the back of the EBL.

If the B2B is more than 30A, then the EBL internal wiring won't be able to handle the extra amps. You'll have to run a complete new wire from the starter battery to the B2B, and from the B2B to the leisure battery. To disable the EBL split charge relay, simply remove the big fuse (50A probably) next to the starter battery, on the wire that runs to the EBL.

You can of course use the second method for a 30A B2B if you prefer.

The confusion arises with other brands of 'EBL', ie other distribution/fuseboxes like Sargent or CBE. The starter battery supply for the split charge relay and the other things like the fridge are not separated as they are in the EBL99, so that causes complications.

It will be a 50amp Victron Buckboost, when it arrives.

What size cable do you recommend from the Starter battery Please?

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[causse]

Bonjour, je suis a la recherche du tableau de commande Burstner IT96-2
je suis preneur neuf ou occasion garantie ?

 

[Lenny HB]

It will be a 50amp Victron Buckboost, when it arrives.

What size cable do you recommend from the Starter battery Please?

Need to know the length of cable run before I can give you an answer.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Need to know the length of cable run before I can give you an answer.

I missed that off, 4 meters

 

[Lenny HB]

35 mm sq ideal, you could get away with 25mm sq.

 

[EuroTrotters]

35 mm sq ideal, you could get away with 25mm sq.

I will go for 25 as that seems the max in the manual

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[Lenny HB]

I will go for 25 as that seems the max in the manual

The B2B will make up the volt drop & it's still low with 25mm sq.

 

[autorouter]

Bonjour, je suis a la recherche du tableau de commande Burstner IT96-2
je suis preneur neuf ou occasion garantie ?

Translate: Hello, I am looking for the Burstner IT96-2 control panel. I'll take new or guaranteed second-hand?
Look at the Apuljack Electronics website. They can repair a control panel. They can also sell you a new control panel

Translate: Consultez le site Web d'Apuljack Electronics. Ils peuvent réparer un tableau de commande. Ils peuvent également vous vendre un nouveau tableau de commande.

Schaudt IT 96 Control Panel | Apuljack Electronics

Habitation systems control panel

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[Just smiffy]

Yes that’s the one.

It‘s on a pre-order special for £299

Victron Energy Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger — Offgrid Power Solutions

This product is in stock at our UK warehouse and will ship next working day. Engineered from the ground up, the Orion XS redefines adaptive DC-DC charging. For use in dual battery systems charged with an (intelligent) alternator. This device not only ensures top-tier performance but also guarante

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How long is the waiting list on the buckboost RogerIvy, I will probably pop into yours mid march for one and some other bits…

 

[EuroTrotters]

How long is the waiting list on the buckboost RogerIvy, I will probably pop into yours mid march for one and some other bits…

Mine has not arrived yet

 

[RogerIvy]

How long is the waiting list on the buckboost RogerIvy, I will probably pop into yours mid march for one and some other bits…

Victron have told us mid-March. Hoping like crazy it doesn’t slip as we have a lot of people waiting.

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[EuroTrotters]

Victron have told us mid-March. Hoping like crazy it doesn’t slip as we have a lot of people waiting.

in-stock at some places but at a premium price

 

[EuroTrotters]

All multipluses are compatible with lithium, you just go in the settings under charger and change to lifepo4.
Even older models with updated firmware works almost like the latest model.

I don't think they can be upgraded to Bluetooth though

 

[Raul]

I don't think they can be upgraded to Bluetooth though

What for? Multiplus main communication protocol is VE bus. You either use a mk3 dongle to PC, or VE bus to a GX that’s connected to WiFi. To access the settings of a multiplus, you need to use VE config tools, not possible via Bluetooth.
You can also get a VE bus to Bluetooth dongle for info, but not settings. This was mainly used to connect a temp sense on models without the temp sense. Not needed anymore.

 

[EuroTrotters]

What for? Multiplus main communication protocol is VE bus. You either use a mk3 dongle to PC, or VE bus to a GX that’s connected to WiFi. To access the settings of a multiplus, you need to use VE config tools, not possible via Bluetooth.
You can also get a VE bus to Bluetooth dongle for info, but not settings. This was mainly used to connect a temp sense on models without the temp sense. Not needed anymore.

yes, I have a mk3 to PC. No software for Mac and no USB on my new Mac.

Bloody Panasonic Toughbook failed on me so had to use my daughters HP on windows 11 If I recall. But then there was a driver issue that wasn't easy to sort. But I got there in the end.