Refillable cylinders anyone ? ⚠️🤬

[Basildog]

A picture I was sent this week, this is why we like to check out what we are filling with LPG

 

[Jim]

Tidy job you've done there Charlie. And you made sure they have a decent filler cap

 

[Pausim]

Am I right in thinking they have taken one pipe with proper ends and then cut it into bits to bodge into their improvised system?

 

[Billy192]

Tidy job you've done there Charlie. And you made sure they have a decent filler cap

and gaslow

 

[Nanniemate]

A picture I was sent this week, this is why we like to check out what we are filling with LPG View attachment 844753

Looks OK to me? Maybe that's why you fitted mine

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[Gromett]

This is why the thought of hydrogen being a thing scare the pants off me. Only takes one DIYer like this to cause a massive, massive problem.

 

[15isto2]

I m no expert but I dont think they are gaslow bottles

 

[1967bowesj]

Basildog
Theres no ptfe? ( tongue firmly in cheek)

don’t know which is a worse thought, the low pressure pipes fitted with jubilee clips for the high pressure inlet or the non refillable bottles haha

 

[dunnah01]

Although the pipe insulation is quite neat

 

[Pausim]

But think how much money they might have saved by the time they blow up themselves, their motorhome, a forecourt and several innocent people.

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[Lenny HB]

Flipping heck, standard Calor bottles, jubilee clips on high pressure hoses and I can't see a regulator.

Or in other words they have build a bomb.

 

[Phill D]

Flipping heck, standard Calor bottles, jubilee clips on high pressure hoses and I can't see a regulator.

Or in other words they have build a bomb.

there appears to be a regulator behind the middle of the bottles well down on the bulkhead.

but i agree a bomb waiting to go off...

 

[Lenny HB]

there appears to be a regulator behind the middle of the bottles well down on the bulkhead.

but i agree a bomb waiting to go off...

Only on my phone I can just see the top of it now. It's supposed to be above the top of the bottles not below them.

 

[Phill D]

Only on my phone I can just see the top of it now. It's supposed to be above the top of the bottles not below them.

yep i only picked it up on my laptop and that is really going to sludge up.. but thats a small worry

 

[Funnymunny]

Unbelievable what some idiots will do and very often get away with

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[Just smiffy]

At least they’ve put some insulation around the filler hose….

 

[Orion]

Only on my phone I can just see the top of it now. It's supposed to be above the top of the bottles not below them.

That’s the least of their worries I suspect!

 

[Steve and Denise]

Only on my phone I can just see the top of it now. It's supposed to be above the top of the bottles not below them.

What you on about ? They have used proper Jubilee clips

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Looks like a load of old plumbing joints to me.

 

[Wildbill]

Don’t like the look of the straps holding them in ther a bit heavy duty for that job
Wildbill

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[nicholsong]

Look at the tight bend in the pipe which looks orange in the photo. How long before that splits?

 

[Barclaybasher]

Looks like it was made for 2 x standard 6kg calor bottles, has fitted an 11kg bottle which barely sits inside the locker and is higher than the regulator....apart from the dodgy plumbing, wrong bottles for refillable....

 

[DavidG58]

I find this type of thread a bit confusing, my guess is a few % will immediately see any issues (assuming it is wrong) but the vast majority don’t, but are left presuming something is wrong but not knowing what

Sadly some of us could be running around with something like this having ‘presumed’ a previous owner did things correctly

I see a lot of threads suggesting a refillable system is easily fitted, maybe the suppliers should check the competency of buyers to DIY such things

 

[Guigsy]

I'm guessing it was built for a pair of Gaslows. But the previous owner took them with them when they sold the van. So the new owner just put Calors in the gaps. Scary.

 

[sedge]

They may be oldish Calor bottles but being as they're red, originally specifically held Propane not at all Butane, definitely never intended to be filled with anything other than Propane.

And that's before we even get to any of the plumbing issues.

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[bigtree]

They may be oldish Calor bottles but being as they're red, originally specifically held Propane not at all Butane, definitely never intended to be filled with anything other than Propane.

And that's before we even get to any of the plumbing issues.

It’s only propane you get from pumps in Britain.

 

[Wildbill]

2.4 bar 34.809 psi for propane in a tank at room temp
3.5 bar 50.763 psi butane at room temp
The pressures is not that grate its the expansion rates at differing temperatures that’s the problem
The colder the atmosphere on the day the slower the expansion.
On a hot day even faster
That why a gas kick on a oil well was so dangerous as the gas in the hot mud gets to surface it would expand at a very fast unloading the well and reducing hydrostatic pressure
So it not the pressure that’s the problem its if one of those hoses parts uncontrolled gas being liberated to atmosphere huge fire risk.
And a bottle unloading it gas at very hight volumes as both gases are more dense than air a blanket of gas covering the surrounding aria going on fire setting alight to anything and everything around it
That’s why those hoses are so over engineered
Standard beaded hose will carry those two gases at room temperature.
I would think but would you want to I certainly would not.
And anyone who thinks it ok to do that with gas is so stupid it beyond comprehension
Over fill the bottle and there’s no room for expanding LPG NGL bottle splits bottles unloads fire ball
Look up Boyles law interesting if you’re in to gas volumes gas expansion
Understanding how gas is dangerous stuff
Rant over
Wildbill

 

[Minxy]

So come on then Basildog, tell us what you said to the 'customer'!

 

[Brains]

I wonder why they went to the extra expense of getting brass gas fittings,
I'd have thought conventional steel bathroom plumbing fittings would have been cheaper and easier to get from B&Q.

 

[donkey]

I wonder why they went to the extra expense of getting brass gas fittings,
I'd have thought conventional steel bathroom plumbing fittings would have been cheaper and easier to get from B&Q.

Or, even better, plastic push-fit

Geoff

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