Premium "german" brands?

[CanvasCampFan]

Looking for our first MH and accepted wisdom seems to be start with a barely used premium brand

But which brands are these?

Hymer, Burstner, Knaus have cropped up - but I assume there are others

 

[Pausim]

Carthago.

 

[Jewellbags]

Blimey I looked up the N&B brand and whilst I agree they look lovely - the price is eye watering. I’m afraid to get my modest chausson scratched - id need medication if I scratched one of those . Still would like to drive one around and see if it rattles

 

[pandas]

I wouldn't class any of those as premium brands and I'm a Hymer owner, they are all good for mid range vans.

Look at N&B, Carthago, Frankie.

N+B are owned by the Hymer group of course but the the build time is much longer and therefore reflected in the price. Morelo is a class above again-British though! Happy with our Hymer for what we use it for.

 

[Solwaybuggier]

Morelo is a class above again-British though!

Er, no - based in Schlusselfeld, and website states in block caps “MADE IN GERMANY.”

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[pandas]

Er, no - based in Schlusselfeld, and website states in block caps “MADE IN GERMANY.”

Well it was a good try, thought it might get a reaction! Still brilliant though.

 

[138go]

Nope, German:

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Ian

Frankia is part of the French Pilote group.

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[eddie]

Hymer is American

 

[SpeedyDux]

Top German PVC brands:

1. Westfalia
2. Hymercar
3. Globecar/Possl
4. Malibu (sub-brand of Carthago)
5. Concorde
6. La Strada

Fun Globecar posse feel free to dispute my 3rd place ranking

 

[jongood]

Blimey I looked up the N&B brand and whilst I agree they look lovely - the price is eye watering. I’m afraid to get my modest chausson scratched - id need medication if I scratched one of those . Still would like to drive one around and see if it rattles

Used they are a good buy though - says the guy who will soon be selling one because we currently have 2

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[nicholsong]

Blimey I looked up the N&B brand and whilst I agree they look lovely - the price is eye watering. I’m afraid to get my modest chausson scratched - id need medication if I scratched one of those . Still would like to drive one around and see if it rattles

If you think about buying one 6 years old for under £30,000 would you think that expensive? No nor did I.

Geoff

 

[sallylillian]

N+B are owned by the Hymer group of course but the the build time is much longer and therefore reflected in the price. Morelo is a class above again-British though! Happy with our Hymer for what we use it for.

This is how the charge of the light brigade occurred but you have been corrected below, another piece of education is that the Hymer group is owned by Thor Industries (Yankee) so fundamentally all you Hymer and N+B owners have Damon Daybreaks! (you have to have had an RV to get that)

 

[Otter Spotter]

I sometime wonder about your sanity Jim.

Don’t need to wonder

Er, no - based in Schlusselfeld, and website states in block caps “MADE IN GERMANY.”

does that mean ‘guaranteed to get your money back when you find out they have been lying‘ VW ?

 

[nicholsong]

This is how the charge of the light brigade occurred but you have been corrected below, another piece of education is that the Hymer group is owned by Thor Industries (Yankee) so fundamentally all you Hymer and N+B owners have Damon Daybreaks! (you have to have had an RV to get that)

Not my N&B Michael - it was built in 2003.

Anyway 'Owned by; and 'Built by' are different things.

 

[sallylillian]

Whats wrong with being compared to a DayBreak

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[Garfields]

Top German PVC brands:

1. Westfalia
2. Hymercar
3. Globecar/Possl
4. Malibu (sub-brand of Carthago)
5. Concorde
6. La Strada

Fun Globecar posse feel free to dispute my 3rd place ranking

Ok I will dispute the ranking
Based on only ever been in one of the others and having no real experience of them.
If someone would like to donate a new Westfalia James Cook I would haply let it stay at the top of the list. Cant ever envisage having the funds to have one or if I did spending it on a van.
I think the Concorde PVC comes from Globecar as well?
Its all down to personal taste

 

[bigtwin]

Frankia is part of the French Pilote group.
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That’s as may be, but as eddievanbitz acknowledges:

Hymer is American

and the point eloquently highlighted by nicholsong gets to the nub of it:

Anyway 'Owned by; and 'Built by' are different things.

From Frankia’s own website:

Ian

 

[eddie]

That’s as may be, but as eddievanbitz acknowledges:


and the point eloquently highlighted by nicholsong gets to the nub of it:



From Frankia’s own website:
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Ian

Till it is pointed out who pays the wages!

 

[Two on Tour]

Nearly every gripe about MH problems on here are foreign vans now, especially those tatty German one.

 

[funflair]

Hymer is American

Only by marriage not birth

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[The Coops]

King Tiger, now let them tell you * Can't park that here!*

 

[138go]

That’s as may be, but as eddievanbitz acknowledges:


and the point eloquently highlighted by nicholsong gets to the nub of it:



From Frankia’s own website:
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Ian

I can't agree that you're right because then we'd both be wrong. Seriously though, the point is debatable as they are owned by a French company but built in Germany.

 

[bigtwin]

I can't agree that you're right because then we'd both be wrong. Seriously though, the point is debatable as they are owned by a French company but built in Germany.

It is debatable; do you want to carry on?

Ian

 

[jongood]

Not my N&B Michael - it was built in 2003.

Anyway 'Owned by; and 'Built by' are different things.

Sorry Geoff 1996

And yes - totally agree thats why a certain North Eastern brand arent any better

 

[CanvasCampFan]

(almost) sorry I asked

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[nicholsong]

Sorry Geoff 1996

And yes - totally agree thats why a certain North Eastern brand arent any better

Jon

I do understand the 1996 reference.

Nor the North Eastern brand - which country?

Geoff

 

[jongood]

Jon

I do understand the 1996 reference.

Nor the North Eastern brand - which country?

Geoff

1, Assuming there is a typo in there Geoff. Hymer took over N&B in 1996

2, Think of the brand in NE UK taken over by Hymer

 

[Two on Tour]

1, Assuming there is a typo in there Geoff. Hymer took over N&B in 1996

2, Think of the brand in NE UK taken over by Hymer

Yes, the one that a lot on here like to slag off and one Funster who needs therapy to get over it.

 

[Terry242]

Ok I will dispute the ranking
Based on only ever been in one of the others and having no real experience of them.
If someone would like to donate a new Westfalia James Cook I would haply let it stay at the top of the list. Cant ever envisage having the funds to have one or if I did spending it on a van.
I think the Concorde PVC comes from Globecar as well?
Its all down to personal taste

And just to confuse the issue more, I believe Possl/Globecar are all made in a Dethleffs factory!

Terry

 

[Coolcats]

Hymer is American

The Parent company is American, Hymer HQ is still Germany as is the manufacturing...... it may be me being a bit Picky . Compare that to say Dyson which a Malaysian Brand as its headquarters is now Singapore and manufacturing in Malaysia, with a few jobs left in the UK.

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[eddie]

Who knows? Thor are the worlds largest motorhome manufacturer, and I would imagine that there will be a lot of close co-operation, swapping knowledge and manufacturing expertise

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Ultimately it doesn't really matter what sticker is on a motorhome, it is a converted delivery van, using a choice of two suppliers Thetford or Dometic so none could be called "bespoke"