Power Battery banks ?

have other needs for portable power
That is the bit that is attracting me and now that Bluetti have LiFePO4 ones and Sungzu is about to release some I could be tempted. I already have LiPO and an inverter in my motorhome but they are not independently portable, so I might end up with one of these as well.
 
I'm not averse to non-LiFePO batteries.
Never had a problem with those in my phone/laptop/camera...
 
I'm not averse to non-LiFePO batteries.
Never had a problem with those in my phone/laptop/camera...
I haven’t had problems either but when getting to storing larger amounts of power I prefer the more stable chemistry of LiFePO4.
 
The likes of these look really interesting and I don’t think the approach should be discounted so quickly. They can have huge capacities (but I’m not sure that anyone would need as much as 25kWh in a motorhome). They are very flexible in that you can take them wherever needed and charge them in multiple ways (some can even be plugged into electric car charging points for a rapid charge). I have also seen a collapsible 400W tracking solar panel that looks interesting. I’m sure there will be even more options to choose from before long and competition should make them even more affordable.
They may have more appeal to those who do not yet have Lithium installed, have other needs for portable power, or do not plan to keep their present vehicle for very long.
Fully concur, this stuff isn't going away!. An excellent thread.
The technology really seems to be moving apace and the portable versatility outside of the van, makes it's a compelling product.

I've been looking at adding extra battery capacity to the current '1 solar panel 110ah leisure battery MPPT 15a' set up and discovered I'll need the added expense of a B2B, Smart charger,Shunt, bluetooth dongle, Battery master new cabling and installation.
£3500 later and I still wouldn't have an inverter! So much expense to cover all bases of charging.
So I've been researching battery power banks as an alternative.

Thanks to Teithwr for putting me onto Indiegogo crowdfunding site where I discovered this beauty from Zendure


Transportable Wheels, SuperBase Pro 1500, uses LiFePo4, App, Tracker theft protection , charge to 80% from mains in 1hour. 3,000 cycles to 80% capacity, WiFi for low battery alerts,
Early bird deals for £730 for mega adventurous types,
It will even act as your 'spare fuel can' for electric cars!
You can top it up at EV points too!

The 2000 seems more than I need and LiFePo4 is safer longer lasting..
It does all what I want with the bonuses of being a tracker and inverter.

The app is still at beta stage and they are still at prototype development but have raised over £1/2m. It is crowdfunding so fulfillment is not guaranteed. That said, Zendure has successfully completed multiple crowdfunding campaigns and has successfully delivered to backers.

It shows the direction of travel and development of the tech. Certainly will be looking closely on how this goes. Looking forward to going for a pint, taking the battery to the pub to be recharged and being set up for another few days of winter off grid camping.
 
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Fully concur, this stuff isn't going away!. An excellent thread.
The technology really seems to be moving apace and the portable versatility outside of the van, makes it's a compelling product.

I've been looking at adding extra battery capacity to the current '1 solar panel 110ah leisure battery MPPT 15a' set up and discovered I'll need the added expense of the B2B, Smart charger,Shunt, bluetooth dongle, Battery master new cabling and installation.
£3500 later and I still wouldn't have an inverter! So much expense to cover all bases of charging.
So I've been researching battery power banks as an alternative.

Thanks to Teithwr for putting me onto Indiegogo crowdfunding site where I discovered this beauty from Zendure



Transportable Wheels, SuperBase Pro 1500, uses LiFePo4, App, Tracker theft protection , charge to 80% from mains in 1hour. 3,000 cycles to 80% capacity, WiFi for low battery alerts,
Early bird deals for £730 for mega adventurous types,

The 2000 seems more than I need and LiFePo4 is safer longer lasting..
It does all what I want with the bonuses of being a tracker and inverter.

The app is still at beta stage and they are still at prototype development but have raised over £1/2m. It is crowdfunding so fulfillment is not guaranteed. That said, Zendure has successfully completed multiple crowdfunding campaigns and has successfully delivered to backers.

It shows the direction of travel and development of the tech. Certainly will be looking closely on how this goes. Looking forward to going for a pint, taking the battery to the pub to be recharged and being set up for another few days of winter off grid camping.

Does it have 230v output?

The ones I googled were us based.

Cheers James

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Yes it is 2000w surge to 4000w.

Sorry seems the link didn't work
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Website is Indiegogo followed by search for Super base pro.

Edit link should now work:)
 
Just an update on the Zendure Superbase 2000 Pro on the Indiegogo crowdfunding site.
I researched this American company and their 9 year history. They've had 6 successful crowdfunding schemes generating over $5M
for smaller battery packs and as far as I can see always delivered. There stuff is currently on sale on Amazon.

So I've pulled the trigger on one a few days ago. Delighted today to get 2 updated emails with some great news. They've gone into full production and also sold over $1million worth of these. They said this milepost would trigger an extra years warranty, making a 4 year guarantee.


Purpose of post is to let any funsters interested that the crowdfunding campaign closes in a few days, after which the price will rise. Here's a warts and all review. Will update how I get on.
 
Just an update on my "longer term" experience using the Battery Pack. Just to recap - we usually do mainly Aires unless we are near the family then a campsite is a must. We like our morning coffee, toast and hair dryer (not me I hasten to add) and of course in this technological age we have 2 x kindles, 2 x smartphones and an Apple watch. We found that the Battery pack would drop to around 50% after 4 days when stationary on an Aire. The coffee machine being the biggest user of power. Each brew of coffee took around 8% however the phones, kindles etc. didn't appear to take anything. It would take around 4 hours (give or take a bit as I didn't watch it closely) to recharge. On one occasion I used the EHU on an Aire to top it up. The icing on the cake was when our family experienced a power cut and we took the battery pack to their place to make sure the freezer didn't defrost. We were away 6 weeks and evrything performed excellently. No regrets. I even think if this becomes a "typical trip" then on reflection we could get by on a smaller model. One disappointment though was the smartphone app. I think the one star rating is over generous - its useless. The problem is that once paired its great however when you move the phone out of Bluetooth range the app drops dead and it becomes a real chore to try and re-connect. After much effort I threw in the towel - fortunately the unit is inside the camper so I didn't have to go out to switch on/off. I note from the version history it hasn't been updated for over 12 months so it doesn't fill me with confidence.
 
Great for a nights fishing or a Summer weekend away in a Bell tent

Pretty pointless in a motorhome
Ive been looking at getting a genny for off-grid use (full time live-aboard), just to run the microwave (everything else is covered by circa 650w solar, 500w to the leisure and 150w to the starter battery independently).
Not sure i understand the negativity towards these power stations?

I only have 210ah of lead-acid leisure batteries (which is perfect to run everything i need from day to day, except the 700W microwave).

So now I'm considering one of these power banks... the thinking being, if i can charge it from my own 240v sockets (when im on the move, or stationary once my leisure batteries are fully charged from the solar) it would give me the ability to plug the power station in to my EHU input and have enough power to run the microwave now and again?

Is my assumption wrong that it could be used in this way? Microwave has a quoted power consumption of 1200w even though its only 700w so a 1500W power bank should cover it?

I'm not really interested in fitting a bigger invertor to the existing set-up because other than the microwave my batteries and solar appear to be adequate enough to power everything else i need, and i dont want to be drawing away from that to cook a dinner.
Sure I could spend £400-900 on a bigger inverter (Sterling/Victron) that will run the microwave on my existing set up, but then its eating my batteries when im off-grid instead of taking it from a separate supply and would require additional wiring from the invertor to the microwave (where as a power bank plugged in to the EHU socket will not).

If the power bank needs charging and i dont have capacity to recharge it on the move (or from spare solar capacity) then i simply get a take away or have a sandwich! until I'm able to recharge it again.

Currently about once a week ill head to a campsite to take on water, drop grey and black waste and give the batteries 24hrs of EHU.
Am I wrong in thinking for my needs it would work?
 
If you have a motorhome with a leisure battery then these power packs are just unnesesary payload. If you need to even think about these then improve your leisure battery. LiFeP04 if you feel the need. These power packs are as much use as those small poke in the window solar panels. Not a lot.
the cost of lithium batteries (and the proper charging system they need to go with them) plus a high output invertor is surely more though?
(and then you're still limiting yourself to a single battery capacity to run everything, as opposed to keeping one in reserve which you can choose when to (or not) to dip in to)?

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If you have a motorhome with a leisure battery then these power packs are just unnesesary payload. If you need to even think about these then improve your leisure battery. LiFeP04 if you feel the need. These power packs are as much use as those small poke in the window solar panels. Not a lot.
Hi Clive
Its not just the leisure battery but the convenience of having 240 volts and a number of USB charging points when on sites or Aires without EHU. Its the ability to be able to move it around in the event of power cuts or needing the strimmer at the bottom of the garden. I grant you the cost is a killer and I hope they come down in time but the size and weight is little more than an extra battery and much easier to fit
 
I hope they come down in time but the size and weight is little more than an extra battery and much easier to fit
The Bluetti EB150 has come down in price twice in the last few weeks. Perhaps they are about to launch an updated version?
 
Which power bank are you thinking of?

The 700W is the heating power output. The 1200W is the electric power input needed to run it.
no idea yet, im also looking at dual fuels, Petrol/LPG, like the Champion 2Kw. Its really just a consideration at this stage, but i prefer the idea of a power bank over one that burns fuel.
 
My Bluetti EB70 has arrived. I bought it for recharging our electric bikes at home, they will be stored in our car barn where there is no mains power. It will also give me up to 1kw at 230v ac when I need to power other devices outside.

It looks well made and Bluetti have a good reputation. I chose it because it has a LiFePO4 battery which is safer and has a longer life than other types. It weighs under 10kg which means I can carry it around without a hernia or sack truck.

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The Bluetti EB150 has come down in price twice in the last few weeks. Perhaps they are about to launch an updated version?
Yes, I believe that's right. Their new line it's already available in some other pages under the brand PowerOak (same people, I believe).

 
Yes, I believe that's right. Their new line it's already available in some other pages under the brand PowerOak (same people, I believe).
The packaging has Power Oak prominent with Bluetti a bit smaller and below. The EB70 has been available in the USA and Europe for a while but the UK version only popped up recently with the Black Friday deals. I have been watching out for it’s arrival.
 
The packaging has Power Oak prominent with Bluetti a bit smaller and below. The EB70 has been available in the USA and Europe for a while but the UK version only popped up recently with the Black Friday deals. I have been watching out for it’s arrival.
Did you buy from Poweroak or Bluetti? I can only see it on the power oak site but priced in euro’s coming in about £500? Could be up for one of those.
 
Did you buy from Poweroak or Bluetti? I can only see it on the power oak site but priced in euro’s coming in about £500? Could be up for one of those.
I went to Bluetti, the new EB70 was reduced to £699.
Looks like the EU version is cheaper.
 
I went to Bluetti, the new EB70 was reduced to £699.
Let us know how it goes. I might buy one in the next few days. Unsure about this one, the Ecoflows or just wait to buy a LifePo4 Ecoflow.

Could you run a small hairdryer in low? I need to make sure the Ms is happy with the purchase.

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I went to Bluetti, the new EB70 was reduced to £699.
Looks like the EU version is cheaper.
I'll give it a go, see how it goes.
 
Could you run a small hairdryer in low? I need to make sure the Ms is happy with the purchase.
Yes, I just ran a test on my wife’s small hairdryer (Babyliss Ecoflow). It ran at 672W on low and 960W on high settings and the EB70 coped without complaint. In theory it should run for over 1 hour on the low setting before running the 716Wh battery down but I only did a short test.
 

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