Please Help new motorhome nightmare.

[Matt 123]

Hi everybody, ive bought a motorhome and im having a problem, i picked up a new autotrail imala 736g from a large dealership on 24th november and have had problems , i could not drive it at first due to a broken wrist so my stepdad drove it home for me and parked it on the drive with 60 miles on the clock , my first drive in the van was 23rd december . as i arrived home the red light came on saying maximum oil level exceeded , now with 150 miles on the clock i called the dealership and their was no reply as they had closed for christmas , i phoned fiat recovery and it took them over week to recover it and take it to the dealership they now say that there was 2 litres too much oil in the van , should i ask for a new van , they say its ok now but im not happy about it ,

 

[Coolcats]

Maybe but not relevant to this persons problem or worries, and not to modern vehicles.

Agreed and I am fully aware of dry sump systems but as I mention above not really relevant to a 2021 Ducato though.

To help (peace of mind) someone that asks for help, not opinions, surely it is best not to suggest or quote anything that is not actually directly linked to the question.
Especially as noted by L'Hobo quotes "OP did not have a dipstick??"

My post was more factual in content than opinion as I gave one example of a different type of lubrication system.

Then stated “So always refer to the owners hand book and always check the oil level before setting off on a journey”. I did not say the OP should use a dip stick. It would be interesting to hear what the recommendation is on checking an engine’s oil without a dip stick is ( by manufacture)

 

[peterc10]

t would be interesting to hear what the recommendation is on checking an engine’s oil without a dip stick is ( by manufacture)

Just look at the oil level display on the dashboard when switching on the ignition. My 2015 Ducato based Hymer has that even though it also has a dipstick.

 

[L' Hobo]

My post was more factual in content than opinion as I gave one example of a different type of lubrication system.

Then stated “So always refer to the owners hand book and always check the oil level before setting off on a journey”. I did not say the OP should use a dip stick. It would be interesting to hear what the recommendation is on checking an engine’s oil without a dip stick is ( by manufacture)

I cannot answer your last question because I would never have an engine without a dipstick because, like a lot of other components that rely on sensors, they often give false readings. ( I hope its not the same sensors that is fitted to fresh water level gauges )

With a dipstick, if the reading is not what one expects , there is nothing stopping you from dipping it again (just to make sure),
how do you do this with a sensor? Turn the ignition off and on a number of times?? Even doing that seems to upset some ECU's.

I know I'm old and do not understand a lot of electronics BUT, give me an engine with a dipstick every time!

 

[Robert1351]

I think your Yanmar dipstick wasn’t long enough. It just goes straight into the sump and measures the level there. It’s also how you empty oil on a 18 hp Yanmar if it was a 2gm20

Well there’s a thing. What fun. Dipstick is now to be referred to most carefully.

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[Coolcats]

Just look at the oil level display on the dashboard when switching on the ignition. My 2015 Ducato based Hymer has that even though it also has a dipstick.

Yup same as the 2018 model but here is the thing, there is the story of Ford once sending out a batch of vehicles and none of the wheels had Tyre Valves in, they were missed as the due to the fact that the tyres where fitted to rims and the mass production method meant that the room the tyres were inflated was first pressure dropped then pressurised to what ever pressure is needed (how true this is I have no idea) But what it meant was a whole batch was sent to dealers without tyre valves. Now it could be that Fiat had an engine batch that was automatically filled and no dip stick had been inserted just a blanking plug. This would mean that an engine could be over filled or even partly filled with someone topping up not being able to measure the true level.........stranger things have happened

 

[Coolcats]

I cannot answer your last question because I would never have an engine without a dipstick because, like a lot of other components that rely on sensors, they often give false readings. ( I hope its not the same sensors that is fitted to fresh water level gauges )

With a dipstick, if the reading is not what one expects , there is nothing stopping you from dipping it again (just to make sure),
how do you do this with a sensor? Turn the ignition off and on a number of times?? Even doing that seems to upset some ECU's.

I know I'm old and do not understand a lot of electronics BUT, give me an engine with a dipstick every time!

Absolutely I just love the analogue old fashioned way of checking an indicator is fine but absolute level needs checking manually.

As per the post above are they sure this current Fiat engine does not have a Dipstick and if so should it have one as it could have been missed out on the production line. Not meaning to give the OP something else to worry about.