I have found the EU document but can’t copy the link. It is dated 1st December and gives the rules if we are a listed country, which means the titre test is not required but it does also say that the decision re being a listed country is not definite! Maybe things will become clearer after tomorrow.
Well I agree that the EU are entirely responsible for setting the requirements that apply to animals entering their borders but there are two parties that need to reach an agreement on our future relationship and it has been said to us countless times by this government, its ministers both former and current that we'd be getting a deal with the EU, that no deal was off the table, it would be a great deal, that the EU needed us and presumably our tourism and pets much more than we needed them and that only last year we already had an 'oven ready deal' ready to go. Many people voted for them on the basis that they would indeed get Brexit done.
Thanks for checking, we do seem to be entirely at the mercy of others on this. I do wish we had some people in charge who weren't so infuriatingly useless, constantly lying and then telling us to get prepared for a no deal when we're about 3 weeks away from that date! That just strikes me of a complete abdication of their responsibilities to negotiate the arrangements months if not years in advance and then tell us to prepare for what those arrangements are. That's how every other organisation plans and prepares for major change, you can't expect businesses and people to plan for 2 or more polar possibilities right until the very end, its ridiculous. We have a scenario just on something as trivial as pet entry where absolutely nothing could change, or we have to start some long-winded expensive process at least 4 months in advance! Its just bloody bad luck that the borders are all shut at the moment or we'd have people having to scrap travel plans on the day or leave animals at the border! We've had 4 years of the same party in charge, they've mucked around and argued with themselves about what the hell Brexit meant, one side won and then told us all they had a deal ready to go, called an election to give it a public mandate and then immediately spent the past year doing everything they could to rip their own deal up, argue with the EU over points they obviously and had repeatedly said could never be changed because Ireland has a porous border and the UK even made the Good Friday Agreement to ensure that was the case to stop the decades of violence and instead push us over the edge with nothing in place at the last minute and throw Ireland into potential violence and border checks. It just beggars belief what the heck they are thinking of.
I thought that was for people starting afresh for new travel requirements for taking pets abroad.We just returned from the vet who has just adminstered the Rabies boosters. We have five years' vaccine history on the passports. We were booked on the ferry for 31 March, and it appears that given the new 'rules' if we wanted to be on that ferry then we should have seen him ten days ago...
It appears that our Vet didn't do a blood test when we obtained their passports five years ago, but given the 'rules' now evident then you are correct: the AHC will suffice now and we don't have to wait.
You have to work on the assumption the UK will be unlisted & get a titre test .That way you are covered.
Only if agreed& I can't see them worrying about pets when the rest is all up on the air.
& pray where would I find one of them ? The check in clerk for me & the van does my dogs paperwork & I scan his chip. Rarely do they ever see my dog to even know that I actually have one?
Get the dog with the british passport changed to a spanish one.
What's happening then ?
Another dream
Come on Gus, keep up! The earlier link showed that a blood test is not required by the EU: it's official!
That's interesting, our Lily had her rabies jab on 5th November 2008 and her blood test sample taken on 19th November 2008, she passed with an antibody level above the minimum of 0.5 so as she's been proven to have the required level in her system, despite it being done less than 30 days later as per the current regs.
John, has it correct simply if we become Unlisted the 4 months from when the blood sample was taken is the earliest you can travel into Europe with your pet, provided the test is acceptable. I understand from a British vet that now lives and practises in France that the authorities are gearing up for this, and stringent checking at the port of entry. So folks get your pet sorted well in advance as Brittany Ferries state that if they have to turn anybody away because their pets do not meet the requirement then they will NOT be refunding their ticket.
That document you've shown is for travelling out of the UK to go to the EU, it just says that the AHC will still be valid for use when returning to the UK but doesn't include all the UK stuff needed to bring your pets back, it would be great if it meant we didn't still have to do the 'abroad' vet check before returning but somehow I doubt it does so could be a double whammy.
I spoke to DEFRA a month or so ago and they told me they had applied for part 1 listed and agreed with me that that is the one they wanted. If we got that we would be issued with a British pet passport and carry on like before, although the way this lot of clowns are handling this I doubt if the EU will be so generous!!. Someone said yesterday the photo of them in Brussels they looked like they had spent the night in a skip!!
No, the rabies vac, and possible blood test, are required by the UK, not the EU, there's no requirement for you to have the rabies vac for going into the EU at all.
Surely the whole idea of the four months validity of the AHC is to give the pet owner a 'window' within which to travel, which includes the return trip to the UK? Or is that too simple...
May I suggest that you look at the publication date?
Yes I had viewed the earlier and was aware of the 'APHA Briefing Note 39/20' but are we to take that as gospel as it seems to contradict itself. I have just called my Vet friend in France and as far as he is concerned nothing has changed, so all we can do is wait for further solid announcement's.
I paid 85€ for titrage to the lab my French vets use.
Maybe the UK should reciprocate by not recognising EU issued pet passports and insisting on Animal Health Certificates. After all, the EU want a level playing field.Come on Gus, keep up! The earlier link showed that a blood test is not required by the EU: it's official!
From 1 January 2021 Great Britain (GB) will become a third country with respect to the EU Pet Travel Scheme. On 3 December 2020 the Standing Committee on Plants, Animals, Food and Feed (PAFF) of the EU voted in favour of giving Great Britain and the Crown Dependencies Part 2 listed status for the purposes of non-commercial pet travel after the Transition Period. This listed status will be formally adopted by the EU in due course. As a consequence, the requirements for travel between GB and the EU will change. We intend to publish detailed guidance on what this will mean for travellers on GOV.UK, but we felt it was important to alert you to changes relating to AHCs ahead of time. Animal Health Certificates (AHC) Under Part 2 listed status, EU pet passports issued by Official Veterinarians (OVs) in GB will no longer be valid to travel to Europe. Instead, a pet travelling from GB to the EU will need an AHC. You will need to issue AHCs, instead of EU pet passports, to owners travelling with their pet animal to the EU from 1 January 2021. Please note, this would affect any travellers with pets arriving in an EU Member State after 23:00 GMT on the 31 December 2020.
In my one & only use of an AHC when we moved here 18 years ago I hope that they have changed how it is supplied as otherwise if it is still the same then there will be more aggro.
Your vet can download a Country specific one for free, but rest assured we will be charged for it!
Gus, looks like the AHC is the same one as used for exporting more than 5 dogs and exporting by courier. On the sample shown, most of the irrelevant stuff for us has a line drawn across it so the vet will only have to complete the parts applicable to us for holiday use. Lets assume ( although I am a firm believer in not making assumptions ) he can download the simplified relevant form. Bruce
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