Paid Aires killing the old road

[Spriddler]

Who said anything about can't afford it ,

Err, I actually said: 'Can't or won't afford it ...........'
Clearly you can.
Would towns and villages deter people from stopping there if it was profitable to them?

 

[spitfire]

Replace UK with England

I'd much rather tour Scotland than France

Me too but am a Scot lol

 

[Chockswahay]

But how are you finding those mooring fees!

What are those? we use anchor every time (well, nearly everytime)

 

[Khizzie]

But they can afford it

I never pay for an overnight stop , I can afford it perfectly well.

I CHOOSE not to pay to park day or night I will always park free, I simply avoid places where I can't do that

So if I can't find a free place to park and a free place to use services I simply don't visit it. There's plenty of places that are free

I also DON'T feel the need to eat out if I don't want to , as far as I'm aware there's no law says I have to.
If I can get a lovely 3 course meal for €8-.10 why would I want to pay €25-30

Folk need to stop telling other folk how to use their motorhomes.

This is the same old crap over and over

Folk spend thousands on a motorhome so they CAN use it independently as it was designed.

If others want to use paid aires , campsites etc etc that's their choice , but we are still getting this flt nonsense.


I will never use campsites.......the only time ill be staying on one is when I'm working on one telling everyone which peg to park on ?

As you say each to their own... And I hate aires paid or not that means you're jammed in side by side Within inches of each other. So my choice would be camping car park or municipal sites in France having had experience of places like le Crotoy and Honfleur and a few others. No thank you.

 

[Ivory55]

He did say €50 per day

Só 10 vans spending 5 Euros is 50. Your telling me that is 100% profit, there is no costs , the goods that they sell they get for free. Well that’s a marvellous buisness I would like one like that.

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[Northernraider]

As you say each to their own... And I hate aires paid or not that means you're jammed in side by side Within inches of each other. So my choice would be camping car park or municipal sites in France having had experience of places like le Crotoy and Honfleur and a few others. No thank you.

That's why I use aires for services and carparks for parking. That way it's rare to have neighbours never mind close ones.
It does happen of course but out of 300 nights I think there's been less than 10 I've had someone parked right next to me

Incidentally at honfleur I had one van parked with me in a car park opposite the aire right next to Lidl...it was amusing to see all the sardines jammed in and paying for the pleasure

 

[Northernraider]

Só 10 vans spending 5 Euros is 50. Your telling me that is 100% profit, there is no costs , the goods that they sell they get for free. Well that’s a marvellous buisness I would like one like that.

No I wouldn't say it's profit but it is 50 euros a day more than they would have without the vans

 

[LesW]

As you say each to their own... And I hate aires paid or not that means you're jammed in side by side Within inches of each other. So my choice would be camping car park or municipal sites in France having had experience of places like le Crotoy and Honfleur and a few others. No thank you.

You need to do more research, I also stear clear of those side by side Aires, but there are plenty of spacious uncrowded locations to be found.

Like this

 

[SpeedyDux]

Choosing between a piece of tarmac in a paying aire at 12 Euro and a municipal with a choice of spacious grass pitches, EHU, and full facilities at 14 Euro seems a no-brainer. Long live municipal campsites! Otherwise where will the ordinary French tenters and caravanners spend their hols.

The disappearing free aires seem to be one consequence of Macron's policy of cutting funding for local Communes. The Maires have to make difficult decisions to cut expenditure. An ex-Rothschilds banker who is on the side of global big business shouldn't be running France at all. He's in the wrong country.

 

[Khizzie]

You need to do more research, I also stear clear of those side by side Aires, but there are plenty of spacious uncrowded locations to be found.

Like thisView attachment 333592

Done loads of Aires years ago so no need for research. Just the actual condition of some are disgusting. I do know there are many more good ones but certainly not the free ones in prime places.. Think I will stick to my camping carpark ones..

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[Khizzie]

You need to do more research, I also stear clear of those side by side Aires, but there are plenty of spacious uncrowded locations to be found.

Like thisView attachment 333592

Is this free one.?

 

[Khizzie]

That's why I use aires for services and carparks for parking. That way it's rare to have neighbours never mind close ones.
It does happen of course but out of 300 nights I think there's been less than 10 I've had someone parked right next to me

Incidentally at honfleur I had one van parked with me in a car park opposite the aire right next to Lidl...it was amusing to see all the sardines jammed in and paying for the pleasure

Exactly. And €11a night

 

[spitfire]

No I wouldn't say it's profit but it is 50 euros a day more than they would have without the vans

Indeed As a Scot you will appreciate there are people who live a very simple life in rural areas and happy to survive on little and often crave nothing more . Rural France is not consumer driven so your small amount of shopping or that extra money to the commune from commercial parking makes a difference to their lives

 

[LesW]

Is this free one.?

Yes, water and waste €2 though ?.

There are many like this to be found all over France, and indeed Germany and Belgium etc.

 

[Northernraider]

Indeed As a Scot you will appreciate there are people who live a very simple life in rural areas and happy to survive on little and often crave nothing more . Rural France is not consumer driven so your small amount of shopping or that extra money to the commune from commercial parking makes a difference to their lives

Definately ....there's some little shops in the highlands that are open all day and maybe only sell 20 or 30 quid of goods a day

But if it wasn't there locals would have 20 miles to drive to the next one

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[Robert Clark]

Who said anything about can't afford it , my op was just saying that the old ways are slowly dieing, and it's a crying shame.

Maybe it’s about expecting visitors to pay a reasonable share of the the local services they consume?
We’ve just paid €7 a night including elec and water / dump
Seems reasonable to me

 

[spitfire]

Definately ....there's some little shops in the highlands that are open all day and maybe only sell 20 or 30 quid of goods a day

But if it wasn't there locals would have 20 miles to drive to the next one

Indeed Lived in Halkirk for 14 years and the best time except for here of course ! Out west only shop for miles and they didn’t have much but very content . Very much the same where I live now so I’d probably why I love it . The more you have the more you want in a consumer society . You only need enough to heat and eat .

 

[busby]

We are in the Dordogne at the moment at Beynac. Cars have to pay to park but Motorhomes FREE, my sort of village.

Can't find that on the map Lenny,,where is it near..We are west of you on the Dordogne,,BUSBY.

 

[keithchesterfield2]

Please, please don't use the free Aires I use.

As I'm sat here on the latest, the last six free overnighters, looking out at the amazing views of the volcanic hills and rural countryside near Clermont Ferrand I'm wondering if I can afford the €2.50 for a fresh water fill at the Borne.

Don't worry yourselves about my financial dilemma about the water but just keep driving passed this Aire and spend your own hard earned money on the camping site further down the road at €20.90 a night.

It includes free electricity and toilet facilities (which we don't need or have with us) and you'll be in the company of like minded travellers.

Meanwhile I, and a few other French Motorhomes who are parked nearby, will relax in the depths of rural France far from the madding crowd.

Bon voyage

 

[Ivory55]

Indeed As a Scot you will appreciate there are people who live a very simple life in rural areas and happy to survive on little and often crave nothing more . Rural France is not consumer driven so your small amount of shopping or that extra money to the commune from commercial parking makes a difference to their lives

Blimey I am glad that’s France and not the uk . People being glad of being given that and people thinking they are doing them a favour for doing it. I will stick with the uk.

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[spitfire]

Blimey I am glad that’s France and not the uk . People being glad of being given that and people thinking they are doing them a favour for doing it. I will stick with the uk.

Blimey I am glad that’s France and not the uk . People being glad of being given that and people thinking they are doing them a favour for doing it. I will stick with the uk.

You obviously haven’t read my post about the far north of Scotland . It is in the U.K. too . It’s called contentment

 

[Potty]

Years ago knew the wardens on the Coniston CC site. The local milkman called daily and had told them that without the sales on the site he wouldn’t make enough to make the round viable. Without it, many locals would be without a delivery. What he made during the sites opening period enabled him to maintain a year round service for locals.

 

[Ivory55]

You obviously haven’t read my post about the far north of Scotland . It is in the U.K. too . It’s called contentment

And I say to you, job satisfaction never fills your belly.

 

[chaser]

Well here we are, just going along the road and came upon this place, think it's called peyrehorade haven't investigated yet but it's a huge park thing with trees and free services. Close to town centre.

 

[spitfire]

And I say to you, job satisfaction never fills your belly.

I think you are not understanding my point . They have enough to live a simple life and thus are content

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[scousebird]

That's why I use aires for services and carparks for parking. That way it's rare to have neighbours never mind close ones.
It does happen of course but out of 300 nights I think there's been less than 10 I've had someone parked right next to me

Incidentally at honfleur I had one van parked with me in a car park opposite the aire right next to Lidl...it was amusing to see all the sardines jammed in and paying for the pleasure

We've seen the municipal police turn up really early and knock up mohos that weren't parked on the aire at Honfleur and move them on.

I don't see the problem with paying for an aire if it's where we want to be. If there's no aire then we use a site, municipal or commercial.

 

[chaser]

Well here we are, just going along the road and came upon this place, think it's called peyrehorade haven't investigated yet but it's a huge park thing with trees and free services. Close to town centre.View attachment 333641

Just been a walk round town, big place but not a thing open and I mean nothing.

 

[keithchesterfield2]

Just been a walk round town, big place but not a thing open and I mean nothing.

I believe they are all at a rally at the Stade protesting about Motorhomes parked up for free in their village.

Expect a knock on the door from the Mayor very shortly.

 

[Dorset Diver]

We are in the Dordogne at the moment at Beynac. Cars have to pay to park but Motorhomes FREE, my sort of village.

Lenny HB

Hi Lenny,

We are heading there in the next few days. Can you recommend an Aires please.

 

[gus-lopez]

Is this just fear of using the Aire de Camping-Car parc network?

No it is the horror of paying for anything when i'm supporting £800/week keeping scum in prison across europe.

It depends where you travel, where and what you buy, but I find it hard to believe anything has doubled in price or got anywhere near close to that. I’ve spoken to a few Brits travelling around France, some of who say France seems dearer than the UK but mostly they say it’s because if the poor exchange rate.
it’s true, things have gone up more, like fuel, but generally prices on everyday goods and food are still low.
My Sister lived in the South if France for about 20 years and found it more expensive than where we live in Brittany but still cheaper than the UK
If you are trying to buy specific UK goods in France, they will be dearer.

Of course, peoples experiences will be different, looks like you’ve been unlucky where you shop!

Over the last 6 years travelling to & fro prices have increased considerably. If you have to venture into a French diy shop the prices for the same items even compared to spain, whic can be high for stuff like that, will give you a heart attack.
My wife's banned me from saying "how the **** can anyone afford to live here?"

If a buisness is dependent on the the profit on a 50 euro sale to stay in business or not, then I am afraid that they would be better off going bust. Working for below the minimum wage just fuels the problem for others.

It isn't the UK. Many, even in spain ,rely on a few euros / day & it doesn't fuel the problem as there is no alternative type of employment usually or any type of assistance. In the UK people don't know they are born.

It seems odd to me why people spend tens of thousands on buying and running a m/h but can't or won't afford the cost of an Aire.

Same with buying a car.We all want free parking.Where I live in spain the spaniards will drive around forever waiting for a free space in the hospital car park rather than drive in a decent car park & pay 1€ for the day.

From my browsing on here there are some folk who are habitually looking for cheap everything.

No,not cheap free everything. When we are paying vast sums to keep scum welll fed & watered , along with decent medical facilities &straight to the front of the queue I don't see why the decent ,legal ,honest & truthful shouldn't be getting it as well?

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