Oyster Mobile Satellite (iPcopter) & ITV/BBC/40D/5Demand iPlayer etc???!

[ShiftZZ]

Never said you did, what I said was that if you watch the BBC from overseas via a proxy server then you should pay.
If we all owned a tv and only watched the BBC via iplayer then the BBC would cease to be.

Much as I detest the BBC, I dislike its availability to those not in the UK who watch it for free and take active steps to do so.

As far as I am concerned scrap all BBC funding and lets all have a free for all, watch how quickly pay TV will spread even more and we shall end up with even more crap.

 

[Xoxoc]

Never said you did...

My mistake...when you quoted me as saying this:

Not strictly true...

If you don’t watch or record television programmes as they are being shown on TV, on any device then you don't need a TV licence.

So if you own a TV (or other device) and only use it as:
A computer monitor
A screen for a computer game
A screen to watch tv services such as iplayer, 4OD etc.

You can opt out of needing a TV licence.

and answered with:

So how would the iplayer be funded then?

I for some reason incorrectly assumed you were asking a question in relation to the post you quoted.

As I said, my mistake for taking your post at face value

 

[JJ]

I have absolutely no idea how but the Studio here in Portugal has satellite dishes connected to various boxes and then on to a host of tv's throughout the facility...

Some of them receive BBC 1 and 2 and ITV 1,2,3 and 4.

I am pretty certain the management don't pay a licence fee and I am even more certain that they are not doing anything illegal here in Portugal... this company wouldn't risk it.

Hope this doesn't make you too cross Dave.

JJ :Cool:

 

[wivvy's dad]

.....scrap all BBC funding and lets all have a free for all, watch how quickly pay TV will spread even more and we shall end up with even more crap.

And you think this is a GOOD THING.....?

 

[Gromett]

Not strictly true...

If you don’t watch or record television programmes as they are being shown on TV, on any device then you don't need a TV licence.

So if you own a TV (or other device) and only use it as:
A computer monitor
A screen for a computer game
A screen to watch tv services such as iplayer, 4OD etc.

You can opt out of needing a TV licence.

I don't think that is quite true. If you have any device "capable" of receiving a tv broadcast you have to pay the license fee. We used to call it a tuner tax. If you have a tuner you have to pay the tax even if you just use the tv for a games console. Not sure how they would enforce that....

I stand corrected. Just read the link on a follow up post. thanks I stand corrected :thumb:

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[scotjimland]

I don't think that is quite true. If you have any device "capable" of receiving a tv broadcast you have to pay the license fee. We used to call it a tuner tax. If you have a tuner you have to pay the tax even if you just use the tv for a games console. Not sure how they would enforce that....

From Techno's link

Is a TV Licence required to own a television set?

You don’t need a TV Licence to own or possess a television set. However, if you use it to watch programmes as they are being shown on TV then you need a TV Licence in order to do so.
Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003 sets out the requirement for a TV Licence. Section 363 makes it an offence to
install or use a television receiver or possess or have control of a television receiver with the intent to install or use it or
possess or have control of a television receiver and know or have reasonable grounds for believing that another person intends to install or use it without a valid TV Licence issued under the Communications Act.

If you own or possess a television set without installing or using it as a TV receiver (e.g. you only use it to watch videos or DVDs, or as a monitor for a games console) then you don’t need a TV Licence.

 

[Gromett]

From Techno's link

Is a TV Licence required to own a television set?
You don’t need a TV Licence to own or possess a television set. However, if you use it to watch programmes as they are being shown on TV then you need a TV Licence in order to do so.
Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003 sets out the requirement for a TV Licence. Section 363 makes it an offence to
install or use a television receiver or
possess or have control of a television receiver with the intent to install or use it or
possess or have control of a television receiver and know or have reasonable grounds for believing that another person intends to install or use it
without a valid TV Licence issued under the Communications Act.
If you own or possess a television set without installing or using it as a TV receiver (e.g. you only use it to watch videos or DVDs, or as a monitor for a games console) then you don’t need a TV Licence.

I updated my post as you were posting:thumb:

My understanding was out of date.... There was if I recall correct a case many years ago when a guy had a computer monitor linked up to a VHS recorder used to play films only.. He got taken to court because he had a TV tuner in the VHS recorder...

I don't mind being wrong if I learn something new:thumb:

 

[scotjimland]

I updated my post as you were posting:thumb:

My understanding was out of date.... There was if I recall correct a case many years ago when a guy had a computer monitor linked up to a VHS recorder used to play films only.. He got taken to court because he had a TV tuner in the VHS recorder...

I don't mind being wrong if I learn something new:thumb:

That was also my understanding until I read the link ....

 

[Phill D]

thanks for the link ,,, my understanding is now updated and clear as to need for TV licence thanks:Blush:

 

[Xoxoc]

Sorry - I should have included a link when I posted that TV licences are not needed just because you own a TV set...

Here is a link telling you how to 'opt out' as it were...

Broken Link Removed


HTH

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[Skeggysue]

Thanks everyone for your helpful replies plus the interesting debate that happened as a result of my enquiry!

I have now been in contact with Bernhard Neumeyer at iPcopter to ask if there is a solution to my problem for when we are back home in the UK and I received a reply saying he had forwarded my request for a UK IP adresses to the network operator (Astra2Connect.) Bernhard said he will contact me again when he has received an answer from them.

I will keep you informed of the situation.

Sue