Opinion on Auto trail quality

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I’m asking for a friend, yes really, I would like opinions on Auto trail models as to build quality etc. I have never owned one so I would be grateful.
Thanks Phil
 
We had an 07 plate Mohican, it was about 3 years old when we got it. It was an absolute nightmare to be honest. Rarely went out and back again without some sort of issue. The main things were, damp along the offside. A problem with tears coming from the corners of the windows. This was a problem known by Autotrail or so I was told. The window cut outs were slightly too small and with expansion and shrinkage, they split. Fixed by Autotrail as long as I drove it there and collected it at my expense and didn't leave a list of other problems. That bit made me wonder a bit. Four hours drive twice and two train journeys.

There was also a problem with electric's, water leaks and a badly cracked shower tray. Kept it 5 years but couldn't wait to get rid of it in the end, almost broke our resolve.
Didn't help that I bought it from "that" dealer in Newark either.
When you say "that" dealer in Newark do you mean the one on the roundabout or the one with three initials? Just curious as we bought ours from the latter.
 
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I’m asking for a friend, yes really, I would like opinions on Auto trail models as to build quality etc. I have never owned one so I would be grateful.
Thanks Phil
Recently asked a motorhome technician which manufacturers to avoid. Auto trail was Number 1. They are, apparently, known in the trade as Water Trails😩. I understand from several technicians that the older models, as probably, in most cases were far superior. I looked at a 23 plate a friend had bought. What a pile of 💩. Everything looked cheap and nasty. It even had horrible net type curtains up. We have had 10 motorhomes in 14 years, only 3 second hand. The only one that we had no problems with was a new Knaus and stupidly changed to a caravan for 5 minutes. Now on an AS Kingham. Only used once, so far, and technical problems with that but sorted. Off to factory on our way to Wales, in June too, sort out a very rattling microwave and some loose cupboard/drawer fronts. Have found the factory very helpful. No matter if new or secondhand, we always take a damp meter and do our own check! We looked at 3 brand new Bailey Caravans just delivered. We found serious damp in all three. Of course, we didn’t entertain them but bet they got sold to some poor unsuspecting customer even though the Manager checked them all with his damp meter. “BUYER BEWARE”

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We bought a chieftain at nearly 6 years old, had it 9 years now.60k miles mainly in Europe.. Only had a throttle valve, clutch, gearbox rebuild(6th gear collapsed). Alternator. Slight leak in garage,, both sides. We was at the Harrogate show and a couple had just purchased a 2010 chieftain from a stealer, sorry meant dealer. That had damp in exactly the same place as mine. I hadn’t the heart to tell them. They were dead excited. Don’t think the Dealer had told them either as the carpet hadn’t been touched, but I could feel the soft wood.
 
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I’m asking for a friend, yes really, I would like opinions on Auto trail models as to build quality etc. I have never owned one so I would be grateful.
Thanks Phil
I'm really wanting a Delaware,still haven't found a nice one.The layout seems to suit.Think i will just have to be really careful and do all sorts of checks etc.
Does anyone know another van with similar layout? Or a nice Delaware for sale?Owned a Apache 700E and thought the quality was good.
 
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2015 Delaware from new only major problem was mechanical turbo failure.
 
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Has a 2018 Apache which I was glad to sell. It takes all the fun out of it when you are in the van wondering what will go wrong next.

I note that earlier in this thread someone else has enjoyed the build quality of their 2018 Apache. It seems to be a bit of a lottery where some are built well and some are not.

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I’m asking for a friend, yes really, I would like opinions on Auto trail models as to build quality etc. I have never owned one so I would be grateful.
Thanks Phil
Still got, a 2009 Cheyenne 28,000 miles.
Wouldn't want to change it.
Especially for a new motorhome. Apart from expected wear and tear, no problems 😊
I'd recommend them. It does of course depend on how the previous owner/s looked after them.
 
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We had an 07 plate Mohican, it was about 3 years old when we got it. It was an absolute nightmare to be honest. Rarely went out and back again without some sort of issue. The main things were, damp along the offside. A problem with tears coming from the corners of the windows. This was a problem known by Autotrail or so I was told. The window cut outs were slightly too small and with expansion and shrinkage, they split. Fixed by Autotrail as long as I drove it there and collected it at my expense and didn't leave a list of other problems. That bit made me wonder a bit. Four hours drive twice and two train journeys.

There was also a problem with electric's, water leaks and a badly cracked shower tray. Kept it 5 years but couldn't wait to get rid of it in the end, almost broke our resolve.
Didn't help that I bought it from "that" dealer in Newark either.
We bought a 2000 Mohican from a dealer not a million miles from Brownhills in Newark some years back & had nothing but problems with not just damp but water ingress. We would travel from Southampton to Newark every time to have work carried out under Warranty - some of it structural. One problem was sopping wet carpet on the door steps that _ _ _ Motorhomes told me was due to people getting in & out with wet feet!!!! Traced the fault to water running in from a locker door & running along the floor to the steps. If you want anything done - do it yourself. Had enough after 3 years & bought a Rimor & kept that for 7 years without issues.
 
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I've had both a 2005 and a 2011, apart from having to replace screws, o real problems, get a damp check properly done, side seals around the capping is not the best it easily fixed if no damp
Door and locker hinges need to be checked too
 
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We have had nothing but trouble with our Autosleeper which we got new from the above mentioned three letter Newark dealer. The worst problem was really bad water ingress after less than 2 years. They kept blaming different things & sealing them but the problems just got worse. We had water pouring down the offside bathroom wall, 2 inches of water in the cupboard above the toilet, again offside, all the cupboards along the offside of the kitchen & living area were wet, the seat cushions on the offside were sodden, the floor in the bathroom & living area were sodden. It took over a year to get it sorted which only happened because I contacted the CEO of Autosleeper with a very long email detailing everything with pictures attached explaining that the dealer was dragging their feet & kept saying it was Autosleeper who weren't supplying the parts needed. I don't think it's necessarily the brand but the build.
 
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We have had nothing but trouble with our Autosleeper which we got new from the above mentioned three letter Newark dealer. The worst problem was really bad water ingress after less than 2 years. They kept blaming different things & sealing them but the problems just got worse. We had water pouring down the offside bathroom wall, 2 inches of water in the cupboard above the toilet, again offside, all the cupboards along the offside of the kitchen & living area were wet, the seat cushions on the offside were sodden, the floor in the bathroom & living area were sodden. It took over a year to get it sorted which only happened because I contacted the CEO of Autosleeper with a very long email detailing everything with pictures attached explaining that the dealer was dragging their feet & kept saying it was Autosleeper who weren't supplying the parts needed. I don't think it's necessarily the brand but the build.
I thought Autosleepers were meant to be relatively damp - free.

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I thought Autosleepers were meant to be relatively damp - free.
:ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO: Not ours. It's still not right now but a lot better than it was. We've had 2 minor ingresses since the last work was done & are monitoring it. We have told the dealer to make them aware we might be back with more problems but it's such a PITA to empty everything out & be without it for the time it takes.
 
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Brilliant van, this is the second one we’ve had the first a 2005 Dakota then upgraded in 2015 to another Dakota never had any issues with any part of the build quality no damp touch wood never broken down.All round great choice, I do think there are friday vans from every manufacturer mine must have been built midweek 🤣
 
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Guess I’m one of the lucky ones, as had my Dakota 10 years and it’s been brilliant. Niggly build quality that could easily be fixed and sorted during the build process, they just need to introduce tough, effective stage inspections during production and that would sort a lot of issues out.

Wont be getting rid of mine for a while yet 👍🏻
 
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When you say "that" dealer in Newark do you mean the one on the roundabout or the one with three initials? Just curious as we bought ours from the latter.
When you say "that" dealer in Newark do you mean the one on the roundabout or the one with three initials? Just curious as we bought ours from the latter.
We are going to the dealer with 3 letters on Thursday, having a look a Frankia, anyone had experience with them?

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First van was an Auto Trail Comanche, brilliant van , dry as a bone inside. We looked at four altogether first three leaked like a sieve so get them to take a meter! Incidentally first three where dealers. Fourth was a private sale.
 
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When you say "that" dealer in Newark do you mean the one on the roundabout or the one with three initials? Just curious as we bought ours from the latter.
The one on the roundabout, is the one whom we always refer to a Broonfools, having had past experiences with them, and also personally aware of others who have had mega financial problems, as well as bad afyer sales and serviceing experiences with them. :(

I have more than once said on here, that I wouldn't by a packet of fuses off them.............and to this very day, that resolution has stood firm. (y)

After researching Swift and Autotrail for many months, with a trusty damp meter in hand, we eventually bought a Hymer, and after 14 x years of relaible ownership, we have gone over to Niesmann+Bischoff for the last 4 x years............and still happy. (y)

Gaston aires. Phil, with your previous ownership and knowledge of quality built MHs from the EU, why are you considering going for advising your friend to go for British built sh1te? :(

Stick with what you know...............or advise your friend accordingly. ;)

Cheers,

Jock. ;)

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Really, any particular reason ?
I bought a used 2000 Mohican 12yrs ago, & although they appeared quite thorough in their pre - delivery prep it soon became apparent they weren't. I hired a car to travel to Newark to collect the motorhome (lived near Southampton then) & on the journey back the clutch began slipping. Made it home & within 3 days it was away for 3 weeks being repaired. From then on it was all about damp & water ingress repairs under warranty & had to return it twice to Newark at my cost. I had to point out to them the 'smell' that i had reported previously was a rotten wood frame around an access hatch - something their damp check should have picked up. The manager then wouldn't admit responsibility & i found myself between a rock & a hard place & ended up going halves on the cost of repairs - he quoting £1000 total & i suspect that figure was highly inflated so i was paying £500 & most of the repair cost. I will also add that the discussions at one point became 'heated' & to the point where the manager became aggressive & suggested we settle it outside - in so many words.
Fast forward some months & i was still finding mould forming on my wet step carpet that was supposed to have been fixed so i sorted it myself. I'm sure many people have had & will have a good experience with these people, but it didn't happen for me. Many things were learnt & one of them was to buy local & secondly be more a lot more careful who from.
 
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First van was an Auto Trail Comanche, brilliant van , dry as a bone inside. We looked at four altogether first three leaked like a sieve so get them to take a meter! Incidentally first three where dealers. Fourth was a private sale.
I am the same and brought mine from a private seller and had no issues at all 👍🏻
 
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Luckily we only live about 15 miles from Newark, that was one of the reasons for buying from them as we didn't want to travel far if we encountered problems.
 
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The one on the roundabout, is the one whom we always refer to a Broonfools, having had past experiences with them, and also personally aware of others who have had mega financial problems, as well as bad afyer sales and serviceing experiences with them. :(

I have more than once said on here, that I wouldn't by a packet of fuses off them.............and to this very day, that resolution has stood firm. (y)

After researching Swift and Autotrail for many months, with a trusty damp meter in hand, we eventually bought a Hymer, and after 14 x years of relaible ownership, we have gone over to Niesmann+Bischoff for the last 4 x years............and still happy. (y)

Gaston aires. Phil, with your previous ownership and knowledge of quality built MHs from the EU, why are you considering going for advising your friend to go for British built sh1te? :(

Stick with what you know...............or advise your friend accordingly. ;)

Cheers,

Jock. ;)
I found Brownhills OK for small Hymer parts in the past.

I have had motorhomes for 18 years with a break from about 2017 until this year, two Hymers and a Niesmann Arto, these things are bone dry, no need for a damp check.

I think the only wood in the Niesmann is in the furniture, it is not used at all in the shell construction as far as I can see.

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The one on the roundabout, is the one whom we always refer to a Broonfools, having had past experiences with them, and also personally aware of others who have had mega financial problems, as well as bad afyer sales and serviceing experiences with them. :(

I have more than once said on here, that I wouldn't by a packet of fuses off them.............and to this very day, that resolution has stood firm. (y)

After researching Swift and Autotrail for many months, with a trusty damp meter in hand, we eventually bought a Hymer, and after 14 x years of relaible ownership, we have gone over to Niesmann+Bischoff for the last 4 x years............and still happy. (y)

Gaston aires. Phil, with your previous ownership and knowledge of quality built MHs from the EU, why are you considering going for advising your friend to go for British built sh1te? :(

Stick with what you know...............or advise your friend accordingly. ;)

Cheers,

Jock. ;)
I have already considered the opinions and will not be recommending Auto trail. 👍 see you at Corfe castle or Newark ?

Phil
 
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