Oh dear! I've only gone and bought a Milk Float.

[Wanders from Glos]

After driving 300 miles in the car hopped in the Motorhome to go to Quackers rally it was like driving a dinosaur. Got close to the back of a few vehicles as it didn't slow down when on cruise.

Exactly my experience. EVs are so smooth and easy to drive. Just bought our second milk float, another Mercedes.

 

[Wanders from Glos]

Should say the mad thing with the EV like Lenny has found is the fact you can now just drive somewhere 100 miles away for what £2 each way, making things like for us the normal quarterly Costco run be actually monthly. Fuel being so cheap and the driving being so easy makes things like (as I'm doing today) driving a 60 mile round trip on an errand totally feasible where we'd batch up things in the old diesel car as the fuel at 12-15p a mile was cost prohibitive to drive and spend a tenner to save maybe £2 on buying something now versus online. Think about it our old Costco run was £30 in diesel, £4 now.

I suspect EV owners spend more in traditional shops due to the above, but I'm yet to see stats on that -> where I suspect petrol owners buy more online due to the costs of getting to shops.

I can’t imagine anything increasing Lenny HB spending more in the shops.

Certainly it hasn’t made us think we can go to the shops more.

 

[Guigsy]

I wish they'd make modern motorhomes with the full auto-cruise on the modern EV's. It's criminal it's an "option" on petrol and diesel but included in nearly all EV's. Honestly don't think a lot of people buying petrol realise what they are missing in this.

You're right, adaptive cruise control with lane keeping isn't reliant on an EV drive train. My brother had it in a diesel Skoda Superb in 2017. I think it's that EVs tend to only be offered in higher trims with all the options as standard.

I'd love adaptive cruise and lane keeping on the motorhome. I think it's now an (expensive) option on new vans?

 

[bobnick]

When we go searching for a new car now i spend more time with the saleman working out how to switch OFF all the gizmos as I like to drive a car not the car drive me.
Said no to a couple of new cars cause you cannot switch the things off or so much of a faff to do so.

 

[Two on Tour]

When we go searching for a new car now i spend more time with the saleman working out how to switch OFF all the gizmos as I like to drive a car not the car drive me.
Said no to a couple of new cars cause you cannot switch the things off or so much of a faff to do so.

One of the main reasons that we bought the new MGS5 was that you can save the driver setting that you want, then it's only 2 taps to retrieve those settings, use saved setting and confirm ?

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[bobnick]

One of the main reasons that we bought the new MGS5 was that you can save the driver setting that you want, then it's only 2 taps to retrieve those settings, use saved setting and confirm ?

And that's why we went for the Mini. Fob is programmed to do just that.
Some other cars don't have that facility................at least some of the ones we looked at.

 

[Lenny HB]

When we go searching for a new car now i spend more time with the saleman working out how to switch OFF all the gizmos as I like to drive a car not the car drive me.
Said no to a couple of new cars cause you cannot switch the things off or so much of a faff to do so.

That's because you are a dinosaur Bob.

 

[bobnick]

That's because you are a dinosaur Bob.

Yes i am and proud of it Hate tech

 

[Lenny HB]

You're right, adaptive cruise control with lane keeping isn't reliant on an EV drive train. My brother had it in a diesel Skoda Superb in 2017. I think it's that EVs tend to only be offered in higher trims with all the options as standard.

I'd love adaptive cruise and lane keeping on the motorhome. I think it's now an (expensive) option on new vans?

With ACC on petrol & diesel to they still work down to 0mph, i.e. do they stop if the car in front stops and then start off when the car in front moves like an EV?

 

[starquake]

With ACC on petrol & diesel to they still work down to 0mph, i.e. do they stop if the car in front stops and then start off when the car in front moves like an EV?

Depends on if with an auto box or not. With ACC on a manual box it does not. But when I had it on an expensive merc with auto box it did.

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[Wanders from Glos]

Yes i am and proud of it Hate tech

Didn't they die out?

 

[bobnick]

Didn't they die out?

Not this one

 

[Bustup15]

Hired a VW petrol in Germany over the weekend. It had all the gizmos, lane departure, adaptive cruise control, etc, and it even followed the white lines around bends! It was quite disconcerting at first. Tried holding hands off the wheel and after about 10 seconds flashed a warning to TAKE CONTROL.

Very impressed - hire cost 66 euros for 3 days.

 

[gus-lopez]

When we go searching for a new car now i spend more time with the saleman working out how to switch OFF all the gizmos as I like to drive a car not the car drive me.
Said no to a couple of new cars cause you cannot switch the things off or so much of a faff to do so.

Similar for me plus I will not have any type of vehicle with touch screens,mainly because I do not want the interior lit up at night and secondly because you cannot use them on the move

 

[M-J]

Similar for me plus I will not have any type of vehicle with touch screens,mainly because I do not want the interior lit up at night and secondly because you cannot use them on the move

They dim at night, can also be turned off and most can be used with voice control on the move.

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[Cobra]

I have joined the club!
I pick up my EV tomorrow
I decided it was time to down-size a little and traded my Mercedes ML350 for an electric
I need a little space at the back for our Cocker Spaniel so a hatchback was a necessity
My wife is a ‘badge snob’ so a Chinese car was, unfortunately, out of the question
I looked at the Mercedes EQC, Tesla model Y and others.
The Merc was nice , I hated the Tesla (too minimalist inside and I hated the regenerative breaking, which you can’t adjust enough)
Whilst I was at the dealer test driving a Tesla, I spotted another car I liked the look of.

So, my new ‘baby’ is a Jaguar I-Pace.

Surprisingly cheap & extremely low milage. Condition is like new. (Car has only done about 4k a year so far)
Haggled a 2 years warranty and I’ve still got 5 years warranty on the battery etc. happy with that.
Absolutely stunning, unmolested ‘ivory’ interior
I am amazed how comfortable, smooth, yet rapid this car is. (0-60 4.5secs, 124mph top speed)
Range should be around 190-200 miles per charge in the real world providing I don’t use that power all the time.

I know that regenerative braking is designed to help with extending the range of an EV but reducing it so that it feels more like engine breaking feels much better for me. Luckily, that is adjustable in the Jag.

Does everyone else ‘like’ the regen braking or is it just me that doesn’t?

Most of my car journeys are around 50 miles now so I think the car can manage that with home charging.
Not sure of the necessity of a 7kw wall charger yet or will a granny charger be sufficient? - Still on the fence about that.
Interested to see if anyone else has an I-Pace and what they think.

Andy

 

[starquake]

Does everyone else ‘like’ the regen braking or is it just me that doesn’t?
Andy

The Kia/Hyundai have an "auto mode" which only breaks on regen if it detects a car ahead slower than you (so to slow before you get to them). We mostly drive in that mode, or off. Never leave regen on high or one pedal mode, as it's pointless in a Korean car in any case, as the first part of the break pedel uses regen anyway.

However regen on High also gives less range in our experiecne as when running down a hill, regenning back to a battery is less effecient than maybe letting the car speed up, then slow as it goes up the hill other wise. Thus on a motorway you best with regen totally off.

So I agree. Regen level 3 also makes my wife sick as well as passengets as it's so harsh when coming off accelerator pedal.

 

[Lenny HB]

Does everyone else ‘like’ the regen braking or is it just me that doesn’t?

Yep, just you.

 

[Abgs]

Depends on if with an auto box or not. With ACC on a manual box it does not. But when I had it on an expensive merc with auto box it did.

My MLt does.

 

[BrochMike]

Not sure of the necessity of a 7kw wall charger yet or will a granny charger be sufficient? - Still on the fence about that.

Stay on the fence for a couple of weeks (like I did) and then concede that it's much better with a proper charger!

Being able to plug in once a week and recharge fully at home, overnight, on a cheap tariff (available when you have a charger) is much more relaxed...

And you can avoid public chargers completely (except on a particularly long trip away from home).

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[Lenny HB]

Had our car over two months now only used a granny charger on our off peak economy 7 can't see and need for a high power charger. I just top it up every couple of weeks.

 

[Kamperkev]

Just charge ours up about once a week, usually on a Saturday night so if we decide to go out for the day we will have a full battery
I find we use the car now more than we used the previous petrol car.

 

[The Wino]

I have joined the club!
I pick up my EV tomorrow
I decided it was time to down-size a little and traded my Mercedes ML350 for an electric
I need a little space at the back for our Cocker Spaniel so a hatchback was a necessity
My wife is a ‘badge snob’ so a Chinese car was, unfortunately, out of the question
I looked at the Mercedes EQC, Tesla model Y and others.
The Merc was nice , I hated the Tesla (too minimalist inside and I hated the regenerative breaking, which you can’t adjust enough)
Whilst I was at the dealer test driving a Tesla, I spotted another car I liked the look of.

So, my new ‘baby’ is a Jaguar I-Pace.

Surprisingly cheap & extremely low milage. Condition is like new. (Car has only done about 4k a year so far)
Haggled a 2 years warranty and I’ve still got 5 years warranty on the battery etc. happy with that.
Absolutely stunning, unmolested ‘ivory’ interior
I am amazed how comfortable, smooth, yet rapid this car is. (0-60 4.5secs, 124mph top speed)
Range should be around 190-200 miles per charge in the real world providing I don’t use that power all the time.

I know that regenerative braking is designed to help with extending the range of an EV but reducing it so that it feels more like engine breaking feels much better for me. Luckily, that is adjustable in the Jag.

Does everyone else ‘like’ the regen braking or is it just me that doesn’t?

Most of my car journeys are around 50 miles now so I think the car can manage that with home charging.
Not sure of the necessity of a 7kw wall charger yet or will a granny charger be sufficient? - Still on the fence about that.
Interested to see if anyone else has an I-Pace and what they think.

Andy

The other thing that made us get a wall charger is that MG software doesn't communicate with octopus so if you want to use the intelligent go tariff you need a wall charger that does. We now have our washing machine, dishwasher and EV on 7p a unit.

 

[Cobra]

Regen level 3 also makes my wife sick as well as passengets as it's so harsh when coming off accelerator pedal.

This is very significant and what we found too… another negative for the Tesla
Trying to ‘feather’ the throttle to try and keep it smooth is too much to think about
(And too much like hard work!)

 

[motorhumour]

I love one pedal driving in the Volvo- but my passengers hate it-they say it’s jerky at low speeds and not smooth at all.
I have now turned it off….. no change in economy and it’s a much smoother drive. It also make transitioning back to a diesel manual motorhome much easier, as I don’t scare my passengers to death by not braking!

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[Whippet93]

You're right, adaptive cruise control with lane keeping isn't reliant on an EV drive train. My brother had it in a diesel Skoda Superb in 2017. I think it's that EVs tend to only be offered in higher trims with all the options as standard.

I'd love adaptive cruise and lane keeping on the motorhome. I think it's now an (expensive) option on new vans?

I'm sure I've seen a Dash-cam that included a lane keeping warning, as well as alerts when the vehicle in front is too close.

 

[Wanders from Glos]

I love one pedal driving in the Volvo- but my passengers hate it-they say it’s jerky at low speeds and not smooth at all.
I have now turned it off….. no change in economy and it’s a much smoother drive. It also make transitioning back to a diesel manual motorhome much easier, as I don’t scare my passengers to death by not braking!

We test drove a Volvo and it was the one pedal option that put us off. The salesman didn't mention you could turn it off!

 

[The Wino]

This is very significant and what we found too… another negative for the Tesla
Trying to ‘feather’ the throttle to try and keep it smooth is too much to think about
(And too much like hard work!)

We drive in regen 3 ( the highest) all the time it just takes a bit of adopting to a smooth driving style. I actually find driving the EV a lot less effort than driving our diesel car.

 

[M-J]

Stick with the ‘one pedal’ driving, after a week or so you’ll be looking at using the brake pedal when driving as archaic. I rarely have to touch the brake pedal in either of ours.

 

[Wanders from Glos]

The Mercedes has something similar but is far smoother.

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