New Scottish 7 Day Pass (3 Viewers)

[DBK]

This looks interesting although some will no doubt quibble about the price, £40 for 7 nights, but it's a start.

https://www.scotsman.com/heritage-and-retro/heritage/the-ps40-motorhome-pass-decision-as-overnight-bays-spray-painted-at-these-12-highland-car-parks-4724137

 

[Chipster]

Cameron McNeish made an interesting case for it here.
Clicky.

 

[berni109]

Good idea. If we make it up there next year then quite happy with £40.
Probably encourage us to go and campsites will benefit as we usually find one every 3 or 4 nights.

 

[bigtwin]

You must have missed the existing long thread on this scheme.

Ian

 

[DBK]

You must have missed the existing long thread on this scheme.

Ian

Did a search first but didn't find anything.

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[CWH]

Article on scottish council carpark scheme

I don’t camp, I just want to park my vehicle like every other vehicle does….

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

( One of at least 3 threads)

 

[bigtwin]

Did a search first but didn't find anything.

I had a quick look after I posted but couldn’t find it.

Ian

 

[jumar]

Scotland is the Jewel in the British Crown
Generally spoilt by midgets that gets everywhere...even when using the strongest DEET sprays...
The weather is fairly awful, the food types questionable...but OK if you can stomach batter...
The scenery is stunning. Bagpipes incredible...kilts, wonderful on ladies...
And now....a plague of motorhomes and campers all driven by one letter and three numbers...have spoilt the pleasure...
The "Haste ye back" signs have all been removed...you get one go and that's your lot..
Of course we have been many times, walked it, biked it and skied many a top and Glen...climbed the highest and most of its lower companions....most if only the difficult Munros completed...but no more...the legs are weak and the thoughts are elsewhere...
The reference to Midgets was a genuine quote overheard once... perhaps German or Dutch.... didn't want to correct them...it was too funny at the time....

 

[Diabalo]

Can we call small people Midgets these days

 

[jumar]

Can we call small people Midgets these days

Yes if your first language isn't English and this was acceptable 39 years ago.
And mistaking Midgets for midges.........

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[CWH]

I had a quick look after I posted but couldn’t find it.

Ian

I linked it the post above yours .....

 

[bigtwin]

I linked it the post above yours .....

That didn’t go unnoticed.
However when I looked after my initial (not subsequent) response (i.e. before you posted) I couldn’t find the post that I recalled which, incidentally, isn't the one that you found.

Ian

 

[CWH]

That didn’t go unnoticed.
However when I looked after my initial (not subsequent) response (i.e. before you posted) I couldn’t find the post that I recalled which, incidentally, isn't the one that you found.

Ian

there are quite a few!

 

[bigtwin]

there are quite a few!

Indeed.

Ian

 

[DBK]

So what does the class think? Is this a useful start?

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[f6c]

Yes

 

[bigtwin]

So what does the class think? Is this a useful start?

The car parks in the scheme already permit overnighting for a fee (typically £10/night). At a cost of £40 it’d be worth it if you felt confident that you’d visit at least four of them. For us, I’d rather not feel driven by that need.

However, to be fair to the scheme, it also allows free use of showers at council run (e.g. sports centres, swimming pool, etc) facilities. However, for us, that isn’t something that we’d be looking to use.

For some, I’m sure that it would be an attractive proposition but not for us.

Oh, and the permit lasts only 7 days - make it a fortnight and that would be more tempting.

Ian

 

[A S R]

They can FRO. I’ll certainly NOT be paying them £40 a week for the privilege of driving in part of the UK.
I have no objection, however, to paying say £10-£15 for parking in an aire type area if it had facilities to dump water, a chemical waste dump and fresh water. Oh and bins.
If there were loads more “ aires “ then the waste dumping issue would vanish ( apart from the scumbags who do it everywhere anyway ).
This would also eventually have a knock on effect on reducing the ridiculous campsite prices.

 

[CWH]

They can FRO.

Why be so unpleasant? - it's voluntary.
It's not about driving anyway, it's for up to 7 nights parking in designated spots, plus showers, plus (if there's anything left over) contributing to local infrastructure.

 

[A S R]

Because it won’t stay voluntary will it. If you give these idiots an inch they’ll take a mile! This stupid idea needs stamping out before it gets implemented.
Where will it end? The Lake District? The Peak District? Devon & Cornwall? No.
They need to come down massively on the arseholes who dump their crap everywhere and not on the ones who do things correctly.
It’s about being in Scotland not parking up. You still pay for that on top of the £40 a week!

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[CWH]

Because it won’t stay voluntary will it. If you give these idiots an inch they’ll take a mile! This stupid idea needs stamping out before it gets implemented.
Where will it end? The Lake District? The Peak District? Devon & Cornwall? No.
They need to come down massively on the arseholes who dump their crap everywhere and not on the ones who do things correctly.

That's ok, just pay the £10 per night in the car parks if you use them. Not a problem.

 

[A S R]

It’ll turn into a tourist tax. Utterly ridiculous. Are they going to charge cars to tour Scotland? No, it’s discriminatory.

 

[JamesT@Dundee]

It's just one of many options available and isn't compulsory. Provides one alternative to staying at more expensive campsites. Other alternatives include the increasing number of Aires. Not sure I understand the reference to cars - they, generally, don't overnight in car parks or need the same facilities.

 

[JamesT@Dundee]

It's just one of many options available and isn't compulsory. Provides one alternative to staying at more expensive campsites. Other alternatives include the increasing number of Aires. Not sure I understand the reference to cars - they, generally, don't overnight in car parks or need the same facilities.

 

[CWH]

It’ll turn into a tourist tax. Utterly ridiculous. Are they going to charge cars to tour Scotland? No, it’s discriminatory.

Probably not cars, no, but local councils (eg Highland) can now charge a tourist tax on overnight accommodation. As it stands, the discrimination is IN FAVOUR of motorhomes, campervans, etc.
Most countries charge a tourist tax.
And once again, it's not about the driving, it's about the overnighting.

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[BOWHOUSE52]

They can FRO. I’ll certainly NOT be paying them £40 a week for the privilege of driving in part of the UK.
I have no objection, however, to paying say £10-£15 for parking in an aire type area if it had facilities to dump water, a chemical waste dump and fresh water. Oh and bins.
If there were loads more “ aires “ then the waste dumping issue would vanish ( apart from the scumbags who do it everywhere anyway ).
This would also eventually have a knock on effect on reducing the ridiculous campsite prices.

It's the SCUMBAGES & FREELOADERS that have caused most of the problems up in Scotland and we can fully understand how the local people have reacted to them We were made very welcome in the early years of travelling around Scotland until these LOW LIFE spoiled it for everyone else

 

[PaulC70]

So what does the class think? Is this a useful start?

nope

They can FRO. I’ll certainly NOT be paying them £40 a week for the privilege of driving in part of the UK.
I have no objection, however, to paying say £10-£15 for parking in an aire type area if it had facilities to dump water, a chemical waste dump and fresh water. Oh and bins.
If there were loads more “ aires “ then the waste dumping issue would vanish ( apart from the scumbags who do it everywhere anyway ).
This would also eventually have a knock on effect on reducing the ridiculous campsite prices.

Pretty much agree, though to be fair im happy to pay a tenner even if there's no other facilities or more depending on location.

It's the SCUMBAGES & FREELOADERS that have caused most of the problems up in Scotland and we can fully understand how the local people have reacted to them We were made very welcome in the early years of travelling around Scotland until these LOW LIFE spoiled it for everyone else

I've never had a problem in Scotland from any locals ever, so don't think those that park in free places and leave no trace are the issue.

 

[bigtwin]

FREELOADERS that have caused most of the problems up in Scotland

What does that mean?

Ian

 

[BOWHOUSE52]

I think you now fully well what I mean ie camper's that park up for the night dump there waste/ loo waste where ever they like Would you like it if someone came and emptied there loo in the drain or wasteland outside your house And they don't even bother to buy a paper or bottle of milk in the village as a thanks for allowing us to stay in there lovely surroundings That's what I mean

 

[BOWHOUSE52]

nope


Pretty much agree, though to be fair im happy to pay a tenner even if there's no other facilities or more depending on location.



I've never had a problem in Scotland from any locals ever, so don't think those that park in free places and leave no trace are the issue.

Totally agree but we all know who we are talking about

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