New ITV requirement for campers & caravans

[Minxy]

Chatting to a caravanner on a UK site once. His job was clearing litter from motorways. Told me they were always picking up solar panels. Said he had a couple or reclaimed ones on his roof

Don't suppose he found Just smiffy's panel did he?

 

[Minxy]

I opened the thread as I thought it was about ITV UK tv broadcast co restricting viewing of their channels ... I thought it was a bit early for an April's Fool joke!

 

[PaulOH]

I thought it was something to do with the telly as well

Of course its anti-DIY, but the idea of putting on a solar panel and not having it secured properly because the installer was a rank amateur and used duct-tape and a couple of self-tappers is not a good one.

I have my bike rack and towbar listed on the vehicle's 'ficha tecnica'. I wondered if they would check me for an illicit solar panel when I went in for the last ITV but they didn't - if there was one that could be seen maybe they wouldn't have been so friendly.

On the plus side, here in Spain we have greatly reduced road tax, the ITV (MoT) is much cheaper and more flexible than in Ireland, there is a new environmental tax (in Catalunya at least) which is only €30 a year for me, and I have never paid lower insurance premiums than I do here. Coming from Ireland where paying for vehicle ownership is arduous, perhaps I'm not objective.

 

[jumar]

keeps some people in a job I would send to them all to the Ukraine to realise the reality of life. Along with some French twits who thought up the "Ongles morts" or rather (big truck watch out you blind fickwit). Next thing is it will be in braille.

I DESPAIR

Well that's how some things are done here in Spain wether we like it or not.....you haven't heard me jumar , gus-lopez or any other Permanent Residents of Spain Ranting about this minor issue, which we all have managed to overcome without any great problems...there would be more obstacles in the way if applying to be a Spanish Resident, a route you are considering.
Something's when written, expanded on, exaggerated, are in fact less of a problem than they really are... Viva España.

 

[gus-lopez]

On the plus side, here in Spain we have greatly reduced road tax,

Mine's on par with the UK

the ITV (MoT) is much cheaper

about the same as uk @54€

nd I have never paid lower insurance premiums than I do here.

Dearest I have ever paid is here & with 46 years ncb.

Is there actually a list of all items to which it refers?

Are parabolic mirrors and re-maps included?

What about exchange gas cylinders, BBQ points and equipment?

the BBq point might fall foul of an eagle eyed engineer. When my van was converted I had to supply photo's of front ,back both sides, roof & underneath for the '`rojecto' When they tested & homologated it at the itv station they took there own photographas again? & measurements-. & yes there is a list somehwre.
What i fail to understand is why the most dangerous item is not required to be homologated, roof racks. the amount I saw completely off in the Uk when I worked & even in the last few years was uncountable. I saw one here on a commercial van held on with self tappers in to the gutter.I passed another last week, full length commercial roof rack installed with 4 6mm nuts & bolts through the gutter?? This is why they don't allow anyone to work on vehicles even though some that are " professional" shouldn't be allowed jobs.

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[EuroTrotters]

Well that's how some things are done here in Spain wether we like it or not.....you haven't heard me jumar , gus-lopez or any other Permanent Residents of Spain Ranting about this minor issue, which we all have managed to overcome without any great problems...there would be more obstacles in the way if applying to be a Spanish Resident, a route you are considering.
Something's when written, expanded on, exaggerated, are in fact less of a problem than they really are... Viva España.

I had to wait 7 years for a building license .

I visited the town hall to set up a DD to pay my IBI. Only to be handed a bill for the previous home owner Plusvalía. I paid 4 years on, I am still trying to get our lawyer, our bank or the vendors lawyer to repay me.

Last year I went to the town hall three times to try and pay my car tax. On all three occasions, the awkward **** who sits on the desk kept telling me it was not there. On the fourth occasion, September. It had miraculously arrived, along with a 35 euro fine for non payment.

My Spanish friend insists it is what keeps them in a job. Or as he says “jobs for life”.

I sent myself a small parcel from the UK on 27the December. It’s been stuck at Madrid Barajas airports customs for three weeks !.

As I mentioned. Town hall sold out of Emissions stickers. Applied online. They have rejected my application because my NIE is not sufficient. They want DNI/……..etc.

Cannot get a new ITV (MOT) without the original paperwork !

Javea council don’t use SUMA !

Correos don’t deliver post you our house/street. But they do deliver next door !

I love Spain, have done for many years. But it’s very backward and frustrating

 

[jumar]

I had to wait 7 years for a building license .

I visited the town hall to set up a DD to pay my IBI. Only to be handed a bill for the previous home owner Plusvalía. I paid 4 years on, I am still trying to get our lawyer, our bank or the vendors lawyer to repay me.

Last year I went to the town hall three times to try and pay my car tax. On all three occasions, the awkward **** who sits on the desk kept telling me it was not there. On the fourth occasion, September. It had miraculously arrived, along with a 35 euro fine for non payment.

My Spanish friend insists it is what keeps them in a job. Or as he says “jobs for life”.

I sent myself a small parcel from the UK on 27the December. It’s been stuck at Madrid Barajas airports customs for three weeks !.

As I mentioned. Town hall sold out of Emissions stickers. Applied online. They have rejected my application because my NIE is not sufficient. They want DNI/……..etc.

Cannot get a new ITV (MOT) without the original paperwork !

Javea council don’t use SUMA !

Correos don’t deliver post you our house/street. But they do deliver next door !

I love Spain, have done for many years. But it’s very backward and frustrating

All part of the fun of living in Spain... we left the UK 24 years ago...been here for most of that the time..some of my closest Spanish friends regard me as being very Spanish in my ways... I've learnt not to get up-tight, or beat the system....because this is how it's done here... frustrating and backward...only if you allow it to be...I'll post a video shortly if I can find it about the way we cope with the system.

 

[jumar]

It's old but good fun..

 

[EuroTrotters]

All part of the fun of living in Spain... we left the UK 24 years ago...been here for most of that the time..some of my closest Spanish friends regard me as being very Spanish in my ways... I've learnt not to get up-tight, or beat the system....because this is how it's done here... frustrating and backward...only if you allow it to be...I'll post a video shortly if I can find it about the way we cope with the system.

That sounds interesting, thank you.

 

[Bolti]

It's old but good fun..

Oh spot on! had the exact same thing at the suma office when they finally realised we were not going to be batted away as we just sat at the desk looking at each other, they dealt with our request.

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[nicholsong]

It's old but good fun..

I wonder what it costs systems like that(similar in Poland) for all the space that is needed to store all these paper files?

[Edit : At least here in Poland much can be done at local offices, bit of waiting time, although not too bad, but it is done on the spot without post.]

 

[bobandjanie]

It's the same with the Emissions stickers, as getting Residency leaving it until the last minute, our friends have to go into a zone in a couple of weeks, moaning because they have run out yet over 4 years ago we went into the post office in Javea with the log books for van and car paid the fee given the stickers.
We also get a post delivery.

We have the opposite view living here, we find everyone at the town hall and the the clot more than helpful, even the health centre once you get past the man on the desk.

Having sorted most things ourselves, and used the healthcare and had operations and hopefully find out when my next one is this afternoon really can't fault the Spanish and the way they perform, most things you get worked up beforehand and it's normally easier than expected. Bob.

 

[Brains]

Why why why ?

Walk down the side of any motorway or 'A' road for a few miles and see how much stuff you find that has fallen off vehicles. lights, aerofoils, skirting, windows, solar panels, aircon units, bikes and bike racks, bumpers, exhaust systems, and that is just the common stuff and excludes cargo.

There has been a large metal water tank on the side of the M2 in Kent for the last few years, guess it's too big for the litter pickers to move !

I have an Ifor Williams trailer.
I picked up a very nice, brand new spare tyre, complete with the Ifor Williams rack, found on a cycle ride a couple of years ago.

 

[Nigel Crompton]

you haven't heard me @jumar , @gus-lopez or any other Permanent Residents of Spain Ranting about this minor issue

You might hear me after I've been to Buenos Aires with my shiny new panels ....

 

[bobandjanie]

Oh spot on! had the exact same thing at the suma office when they finally realised we were not going to be batted away as we just sat at the desk looking at each other, they dealt with our request.

It reminds me of when we got a phone call, saying be at the guadia civil at 10 am tomorrow, we worked out it was about our tourist licence, so gathering all paperwork plus copies just in case, arrive to a big sign if you can't speak Spanish bring a translator, so doing our bestest getting plenty of Si and uno momento came back and said my mate will be out in a minute. Bob

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[Burgo]

My Spanish friend insists it is what keeps them in a job. Or as he says “jobs for life”.

They're called "Funcionarios" here. It's a sought after position - basically a job for life within which as you gain years of experience you get to do less work, and one from which it is pretty well impossible to be sacked.

Depending on the administrative function you are employed in it kind of equates to a civil servant in the UK.
Ffi see: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funcionario_público_(España) and

Funcionario - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

es.wikipedia.org

 

[EuroTrotters]

It's old but good fun..

that is so very true

 

[gus-lopez]

Or as he says “jobs for life”.

they are

most things you get worked up beforehand and it's normally easier than expected.

I usually condition myself for an all morning slog yet on some occasions am amazed i have finished before it is even breakfast time

Walk down the side of any motorway or 'A' road for a few miles and see how much stuff you find that has fallen off vehicles. lights, aerofoils, skirting, windows, solar panels, aircon units, bikes and bike racks, bumpers, exhaust systems, and that is just the common stuff and excludes cargo.

I go on a UK car forum & there are a few who work on the motorways. one bloke basically built much of an 8m x 8m garage out of what he collected from the roadside

basically a job for life within which as you gain years of experience you get to do less work, and one from which it is pretty well impossible to be sacked.

Yes,I have always said the passing of the oposiciones , fo many, is the culmination of their ambition & when you turn up asking them to do some work they get right funny. Others are excellent.
& yes you are completely correct in that they are unsackable more or less.
Even that bloke down your way worked for the council as a funcionario & when arrested was nigh on a billionaire . he came from up in Murcia. Can't remember his name at the moment? He couldn't be sacked & had to be paid his full wages until the day the judge actually sentenced him to 16 years.
Antonio Roca. Just came to me.

 

[gus-lopez]

& when arrested was nigh on a billionaire .

I just googled & apparently they reckeon he amassed 2,4billon euros.

well paid these council workers.
I remember now he had an estate agents up this way & when the 'manageress' was interviewed she said the only thing she really did was track down lottery winners & buy up there winning tickets for 20% extra to launder the cash.https://as.com/actualidad/que-fue-d...olitico-al-que-le-toco-80-veces-la-loteria-n/

 

[EuroTrotters]

I just googled & apparently they reckeon he amassed 2,4billon euros.

well paid these council workers.
I remember now he had an estate agents up this way & when the 'manageress' was interviewed she said the only thing she really did was track down lottery winners & buy up there winning tickets for 20% extra to launder the cash.https://as.com/actualidad/que-fue-d...olitico-al-que-le-toco-80-veces-la-loteria-n/

unbelievable but true !

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[hja]

Expawers on you tube took their van for its ITV and mentioned this requirement in their last video. Trouble was that although the van passed, they got a mile or so down the road and they had sparks and smoke from one wheel. Seems that the constant and frequent heavy brake use in the test has caused a problem.

 

[jumar]

Expawers on you tube took their van for its ITV and mentioned this requirement in their last video. Trouble was that although the van passed, they got a mile or so down the road and they had sparks and smoke from one wheel. Seems that the constant and frequent heavy brake use in the test has caused a problem.

Or perhaps a stuck brake cylinder which could cause this...if it was going to cause sparks and smoke this would have happened at the Testing station..
They don't seem to be having much luck just now...such a nice couple....