Motorhoming with pets – European vets

french vet costs are considerably less than the uk, the french do not pursue insurance the same as the uk so this system is not loaded, rural vets who tend farms tend to be more down to earth, we lived in france a while and one of our dogs nearly died from tick fever, the costs would have been ten fold in the uk
 
We have used vets in Portugal for an emergency once and twice for dental procedures requiring general anaesthetic that could wait. We have found they care about the animals, are very flexible and we have saved a small fortune. We did our research and made sure they were reputable and have only had positive experiences so far. The last time it cost us €150 for something that would have been at least £1000 at our local vet.

I am not criticising UK vets in general but our local one went slowly downhill, didn’t seem ant anll concerned with our dog and the prices for the littlest thing upwards kept going up and up.

The vet we saw in Portugal commented that British people always ask her about insurance to which she says - why would you want it as the costs are so low here?
 
I know a few, quite a few, vets as you might expect with my daughter being one. I don’t think any are Tory voters and certainly none are wealthy. The surgery where my daughter works welcomes those who save them the bother of doing an AHC by getting a PP.
My daughter cannot afford to go on the register of those vets who can do an AHC and wouldn’t want to if she could.
An interesting point about affording to go on the register. Perhaps highlights the rather ridiculous nature of the AHC, there is no clinical input from a vet, they transfer almost all the information from the owner onto the form (in fact the last page is the owner declaration form!) The vet provides a certificate number and a signature, the rest is tick box/cross out stuff from the owner/PP. The form is only lengthy due to the dual language requirements; when they were first required I did a 'dummy run' on a French/English AHC09 with the info from our dog's PP and the process was less than 15 minutes. A bit like going to the local pharmacy, any of the staff select and package the stuff, just need the qualified pharmacist to scribble their details on the label!
 
Haven’t read the rest, but, having now got a French PP for my dog, I am using the French vets for more of my dogs treatments. Far better experience and costs. Far from the money money money attitude of the UK.
 
Hi Tony & Theresa Bryson here - we’ve taken our Bishon Frise for the first time this year. Our own vet charged us £250 for a 12 page mainly pre-printed document, a check (took seconds) for active microchip and a consultation which lasted 9 minutes ( my husband counted) but in France vet most amicable as had to change date. And we’ve travelled all the way to Biarritz (for motorbike show Wheels and Waves) and not only the biking community but whole of France very dog friendly and every restaurant given him water before our drinks ! Happy to speak with you and be quoted 07966428477

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I need you registration so I know who to avoid - I wouldn't want an earful for being a Christian.
You don't have to worry about that .

I've never heard of an atheist pushing their non belief down anyone's neck..

Or putting leaflets through doors etc.


Wish I could say the same for the other side 😕
 
Hi. I am a journalist, writing for a national newspaper about UK pet owners taking their pets over to Europe because in many cases fees for surgery/check-ups are much cheaper in Europe.
Obviously, if you are a motorhome owner it is much easier to take your dog or cat with you abroad.
Would any one who has done this be prepared to have a chat with me?
Many, many thanks
Harry Wallop
I know who you are Harry Waalop and I think you are a decent journalist (even if you do work for THAT paper). Howevercontinuing RiverbankAnnie's theme the AHC ia a racket and it has been applied to pets because the civil servants negotiating the Brexit agreement did a lousy job (mainly because Cameron thought the leave vote would never happen). However we are stuck with it and if there is one thing you could do that would be worthwhile is to get your newspaper and any other organisation to lead a campaign to bring back the pet passport since there was never a decent case for it to be discontunued. Swiss dogs don't have to deal with all this expensive nonsence.
 
You don't have to worry about that .

I've never heard of an atheist pushing their non belief down anyone's neck..

Or putting leaflets through doors etc.


Wish I could say the same for the other side 😕
Ever heard of Dawkin's, Fry, Eddie Izzard et al? The hate they inspire toward the Christian community is quite sad.

My friend, I don't know anyone who 'pushed their belief's down anyone's neck' in 40 years of being a Christian. I know many people who have repeated this idea though, in fact before I became a Christian, I have used such emotive language... and worse. We don't leaflet btw usually, that might be the Jehovah's Witness.

Although during Covid we did make a nuisance of pushing food parcels down people's necks (although they didn't mind one bit, I am joking here, please don't take offence :) ), and we don't post leaflets but contact and visit as many elderly as we were made aware of, (including the nearest Elderly Persons Home with Special Needs because no-one else visits).

And through these tough times we've open up the building to ram sandwiches, cakes and tea down the necks of those struggling to pay bills (we are in a needy area), we arrange for electric goods etc for ex-addicts and bursary for gas metres etc when they run out.

We run kids clubs which parents attend, and they have hot soup, sandwiches/hot-dogs, and cakes/biscuits during the holidays for weeks on end so that less well off parents who cannot afford holidays at least have a fun atmosphere to chill in and a place to go if it rains (if it rains?) - usually on themes such as "Being at the Seaside." :)

On two sites we run a hot meal evening for those suffering with various ailments from mental health issues to addictions, so people get out of their homes, out of their situations and meet other people. And we all know the value of that after Covid.

We have two separate organisations (Christians Against Poverty) who visit people in their homes, help arrange finances, contact whichever body debt is owed to and assist them on their way out of debt which improves lives enormously.

We are closely linked to several Addiction Organisations, and they even use our building for meetings. We come alongside them individually to help where we can - without preaching. THEY initiate a conversation because they want to know why we do all of these. We then give a brief response. If they wish to talk about it another time, we will, but it isn't The Church pushing anything at them. If you'd rather we didn't respond to their question and kept quiet or said we can't answer, that would set off the paranoia that many addicts struggle with.

We have a well attended Elderly folks afternoon, buffet style meal, and a speaker of interest. No preaching. We might even have a (non-religious) sing song.

My list could go on, but I've made my point.
And do you know something? We NEVER push our religion down anyone's neck. Apart from a prayer (usually said by one of the children) before eating on the 'Hot Meal' occasions (ONLY), we NEVER mention our faith in Jesus.

And the people I work with, rather than being un-trustworthy, as some of the most honest, caring and loving people I know, and do all they do because they care. A great many even give from their own finances. So I reckon we are trusted in our Community and we're not after anyone's money either, 'en contraire' as they say in Wales.

We all react negatively to someone or something that has hurt or offended us or perceived to have been unpleasant. And if some Christian has done that to you Northernraider then I apologise for their tactlessness and lack of thought. We Christians are certainly no better than any other person. For me, it is a case of recognising I wasn't a particularly nice person in the first place and now I am doing something about that. People who knew me 40 years ago don't recognise the person I am today ... and I mean that in a good way, I don't mean I've sprouted an extra head or something.

I hope this goes some way to forming a different image of the Church that you might have at the moment my friend.

Politics and Religion are those things which can get us all hot under the collar. But I have found MHF to be a very pleasant place to be, with some very kindly folk and this morning alone, I have learned some things I never knew. People respond with real grace and good humour.
I'm asked why I love Motorhoming, and I realise it's not just the 'waking up in the morning to the Countryside' or visiting new places, it's the fellow Motorhomes, the lovely people I have met, full of interesting stories, places they have been and jobs they have done. I love to sit and listen to people's lives and experiences unfold - and the endless funny/silly/daft things we humans do and the generosity and genuine care for other travellers or even hitch-hikers. They're much like the people I meet within my Christian
Community.
 
Ever heard of Dawkin's, Fry, Eddie Izzard et al? The hate they inspire toward the Christian community is quite sad.

My friend, I don't know anyone who 'pushed their belief's down anyone's neck' in 40 years of being a Christian. I know many people who have repeated this idea though, in fact before I became a Christian, I have used such emotive language... and worse. We don't leaflet btw usually, that might be the Jehovah's Witness.

Although during Covid we did make a nuisance of pushing food parcels down people's necks (although they didn't mind one bit, I am joking here, please don't take offence :) ), and we don't post leaflets but contact and visit as many elderly as we were made aware of, (including the nearest Elderly Persons Home with Special Needs because no-one else visits).

And through these tough times we've open up the building to ram sandwiches, cakes and tea down the necks of those struggling to pay bills (we are in a needy area), we arrange for electric goods etc for ex-addicts and bursary for gas metres etc when they run out.

We run kids clubs which parents attend, and they have hot soup, sandwiches/hot-dogs, and cakes/biscuits during the holidays for weeks on end so that less well off parents who cannot afford holidays at least have a fun atmosphere to chill in and a place to go if it rains (if it rains?) - usually on themes such as "Being at the Seaside." :)

On two sites we run a hot meal evening for those suffering with various ailments from mental health issues to addictions, so people get out of their homes, out of their situations and meet other people. And we all know the value of that after Covid.

We have two separate organisations (Christians Against Poverty) who visit people in their homes, help arrange finances, contact whichever body debt is owed to and assist them on their way out of debt which improves lives enormously.

We are closely linked to several Addiction Organisations, and they even use our building for meetings. We come alongside them individually to help where we can - without preaching. THEY initiate a conversation because they want to know why we do all of these. We then give a brief response. If they wish to talk about it another time, we will, but it isn't The Church pushing anything at them. If you'd rather we didn't respond to their question and kept quiet or said we can't answer, that would set off the paranoia that many addicts struggle with.

We have a well attended Elderly folks afternoon, buffet style meal, and a speaker of interest. No preaching. We might even have a (non-religious) sing song.

My list could go on, but I've made my point.
And do you know something? We NEVER push our religion down anyone's neck. Apart from a prayer (usually said by one of the children) before eating on the 'Hot Meal' occasions (ONLY), we NEVER mention our faith in Jesus.

And the people I work with, rather than being un-trustworthy, as some of the most honest, caring and loving people I know, and do all they do because they care. A great many even give from their own finances. So I reckon we are trusted in our Community and we're not after anyone's money either, 'en contraire' as they say in Wales.

We all react negatively to someone or something that has hurt or offended us or perceived to have been unpleasant. And if some Christian has done that to you Northernraider then I apologise for their tactlessness and lack of thought. We Christians are certainly no better than any other person. For me, it is a case of recognising I wasn't a particularly nice person in the first place and now I am doing something about that. People who knew me 40 years ago don't recognise the person I am today ... and I mean that in a good way, I don't mean I've sprouted an extra head or something.

I hope this goes some way to forming a different image of the Church that you might have at the moment my friend.

Politics and Religion are those things which can get us all hot under the collar. But I have found MHF to be a very pleasant place to be, with some very kindly folk and this morning alone, I have learned some things I never knew. People respond with real grace and good humour.
I'm asked why I love Motorhoming, and I realise it's not just the 'waking up in the morning to the Countryside' or visiting new places, it's the fellow Motorhomes, the lovely people I have met, full of interesting stories, places they have been and jobs they have done. I love to sit and listen to people's lives and experiences unfold - and the endless funny/silly/daft things we humans do and the generosity and genuine care for other travellers or even hitch-hikers. They're much like the people I meet within my Christian
Community.
I was raised as a Catholic, my mother is STILL a Catholic. I have inside information so I will as usual go with my life experience over your insistence. ( which to be honest the story you just typed kinda proves my point)

But anyway this thread isn't about that and there wasn't a need for you to come defend your faith to my fleeting comment.

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Our Jack Russell Cross unfortunately eventually died of a heart ailment while overwintering at Denia /Oliva Spain last year. We used the local vets a great deal at that time So different to Uk vets. On getting a phone all they will arrange an appointment within an hour (so different from trying to get a doctors appointment for a human in the Uk!!). The initial examination which lasted nearly two hours included X-rays Scans of all types etc tablets and other medication cost us approximately €200 with all further daily examination for free!
I am certain the bill for uk vets would be well in excess of £1000 and further consultation at £75 a go. Certainly Spanish vets ar so so much cheaper. Also more found medication is less than a quarter of the cost than what you have to pay in the uk!!
 
Hi. I am a journalist, writing for a national newspaper about UK pet owners taking their pets over to Europe because in many cases fees for surgery/check-ups are much cheaper in Europe.
Obviously, if you are a motorhome owner it is much easier to take your dog or cat with you abroad.
Would any one who has done this be prepared to have a chat with me?
Many, many thanks
Harry Wallop
We take our dog (Bertie) who was given a eu passport and had to have hospital treatment while in Spain this year

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The back story here is more than half of UK veterinary practices are now owned by just six companies, three of which are private equity firms. This hasn't happened for the benefit of pet owners.
 
The back story here is more than half of UK veterinary practices are now owned by just six companies, three of which are private equity firms. This hasn't happened for the benefit of pet owners.
nor for the vets who work for them …

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