Motorhomers dumping waste in Murcia

[nicholsong]

What are your thoughts on the ones who empty toilets into the bushes and set up a long term camp??

I have never seen it happen, so cannot comment.

 

[Northernraider]

Posted on wrong thread lol
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[Southdowners]

You wanted a furry friend... perhaps a feline might fit the bill???

 

[busby]

Of course they will let us all in to the free gated hotel car park.......please form an orderly queue

Will be there shortly if its free,,,,BUSBY,,

 

[busby]

The bottom photo of 3 Tam @Northernraider is of Los Madriles just up the road from La Azohia ......far from being a shanty town it is one of the best kept sites in Spain the two brothers that run it have exceptionally high standards and make sure the site is always neat and tidy

Fully agree,,one of Spains best run sites (other than the bar) Love it there,BUSBY.

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[Teuchter]

Fully agree,,one of Spains best run sites (other than the bar) Love it there,BUSBY.

I concur - great site apart from the bar!!

The bar shuts at half past six weekdays 2 pm Saturdays & stays closed on Sundays!!

There's nowt to like about that Oh Please!!!

 

[busby]

I concur - great site apart from the bar!!

The bar shuts at half past six weekdays 2 pm Saturdays & stays closed on Sundays!!

There's nowt to like about that Oh Please!!!

There is always The Social in the village,,,,Had some good nights in there,,BUSBY.

 

[davanne]

There is always The Social in the village,,,,Had some good nights in there,,BUSBY.

Agree the social in Isla Plana is a great place and cheap for drinks and tapas

 

[busby]

Agree the social in Isla Plana is a great place and cheap for drinks and tapas

Better tapas across the road at Le Maison.

 

[Northernraider]

I concur - great site apart from the bar!!

The bar shuts at half past six weekdays 2 pm Saturdays & stays closed on Sundays!!

There's nowt to like about that Oh Please!!!

That's cause they are in the bar on the cheap pints straight after their €2 full English breakfast and the staff know the British soaps start at 6.30pm so they all go back to their vans to watch the sky tv

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[busby]

That's cause they are in the bar on the cheap pints straight after their €2 full English breakfast and the staff know the British soaps start at 6.30pm so they all go back to their vans to watch the sky tv

Not many Brits on Isla Plans to watch soaps..no cheap pints there anyway..Plenty of life in the village though..predomidantly Spanish.

 

[Alanben]

as a newby, I find this thread very depressing. The thought of staying on a site with hundreds of others, is not what I had envisaged when I shelled out a load of money for a MH.
how naive I am. I believe in paying fairly for any services received. In my mind, a freeloader is someone who wants to cheat the system, and get something for nothing and having no respect for the locals or their environment. I can understand wild or freecamping if care is taken to not upset locals and to leave a site clean and tidy. So dont worry people, this is one motorhomer who wont be swelling the ranks in your favourite car park or wasteland.
Now where is the best place to sell a MH!!!!

 

[jumar]

as a newby, I find this thread very depressing. The thought of staying on a site with hundreds of others, is not what I had envisaged when I shelled out a load of money for a MH.
how naive I am. I believe in paying fairly for any services received. In my mind, a freeloader is someone who wants to cheat the system, and get something for nothing and having no respect for the locals or their environment. I can understand wild or freecamping if care is taken to not upset locals and to leave a site clean and tidy. So dont worry people, this is one motorhomer who wont be swelling the ranks in your favourite car park or wasteland.
Now where is the best place to sell a MH!!!!

Correct, sell on FUN, lots do, what are you selling?

 

[2657]

as a newby, I find this thread very depressing. The thought of staying on a site with hundreds of others, is not what I had envisaged when I shelled out a load of money for a MH.
how naive I am. I believe in paying fairly for any services received. In my mind, a freeloader is someone who wants to cheat the system, and get something for nothing and having no respect for the locals or their environment. I can understand wild or freecamping if care is taken to not upset locals and to leave a site clean and tidy. So dont worry people, this is one motorhomer who wont be swelling the ranks in your favourite car park or wasteland.
Now where is the best place to sell a MH!!!!

Have you actually tried any camp/caravan sites?

They are not all as bad as some on here would suggest, in the UK there are many small 5 unit sites licenced by the 2 main clubs and others.

In Europe the sites come in all shapes and sizes to suit all tastes.

We have camped and caravaned for many years almost exclusively on sites, when we sought out isolated places to enjoy we did not normally expect to take our accommodation with us, took our vehicle and/or walked using the tent/caravan as a base.

I know motorhomes are different but I do think that the days of being able to stay almost anywhere are rapidly coming to an end because of the sheer number of motorhomes on the roads throughout Europe.

 

[scotjimland]

I know motorhomes are different but I do think that the days of being able to stay almost anywhere are rapidly coming to an end because of the sheer number of motorhomes on the roads throughout Europe.

agree 100% .. I would also suggest we (motorhomers) are becoming social pariahs... becoming less and less welcome, being barred from parking and generally not wanted..

Never thought I would say this, but we are now thinking on selling the van going back to caravanning.. makes a lot of sense, park the van and explore by car, park in town or by the beach without being a social menace.. only downside (for us) is not being able to use aires in France .. but even they have become expensive.. the only free ones are generally in rural areas or villages, popular ones by the coast or tourist attractions are packed out and many are now as expensive as a site.. €15 or more is not uncommon, just to park on a bit of dusty tarmac within a meter of your neighbour.. so it won't be a such a big hardship..

anyone want to buy a very nice, well appointed Hymer B644.

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[Hymer Life]

I don't think the days of "wild" parking are gone, just the days of people spending the whole winter (or large parts of it) in one place and camping there, not parking.

One motorhome, parked unobtrusively overnight somewhere will still be allowed.

Unfortunately many people don't want to do that, they want a beach pitch for free, for as long as they want, and don't care how they get it. They're going to to spoil it for the rest who are responsible motorhomers.

Well said!

 

[Alanben]

Correct, sell on FUN, lots do, what are you selling?

just expressing my feelings after a couple of glasses of wine
I bought my MH with a dream of going of for some winter sun but it sounds more like a nightmare to me.

 

[SpeedyDux]

This is how hellish it gets on one of those ghastly French municipal campsites.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

just expressing my feelings after a couple of glasses of wine
I bought my MH with a dream of going of for some winter sun but it sounds more like a nightmare to me.

Loads of other places to go, time spent on research is time well spent........ the winter ghettos aren't my idea of fun either

 

[davanne]

That's cause they are in the bar on the cheap pints straight after their €2 full English breakfast and the staff know the British soaps start at 6.30pm so they all go back to their vans to watch the sky tv

Sorry Tam but that isn’t the case at the Los Madriles site. The bar is only small and by the pool area...... They don’t or didn’t when we were there serve €2 breakfasts and I didn’t see anyone drinking cheap beer in a morning in fact the drinks in the bar at Los Madriles are really expensive ...most people used to walk down to the village to the social where the locals go.

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[busby]

as a newby, I find this thread very depressing. The thought of staying on a site with hundreds of others, is not what I had envisaged when I shelled out a load of money for a MH.
how naive I am. I believe in paying fairly for any services received. In my mind, a freeloader is someone who wants to cheat the system, and get something for nothing and having no respect for the locals or their environment. I can understand wild or freecamping if care is taken to not upset locals and to leave a site clean and tidy. So dont worry people, this is one motorhomer who wont be swelling the ranks in your favourite car park or wasteland.
Now where is the best place to sell a MH!!!!

There is the whole of Europe to tour,,,not everywhere is rammed,,,BUSBY,,

 

[Alanben]

There is the whole of Europe to tour,,,not everywhere is rammed,,,BUSBY,,

Hi busby
Agreed, but not a lot of warm sun in the middle of winter.

 

[Southdowners]

as a newby, I find this thread very depressing. The thought of staying on a site with hundreds of others, is not what I had envisaged when I shelled out a load of money for a MH.
how naive I am. I believe in paying fairly for any services received. In my mind, a freeloader is someone who wants to cheat the system, and get something for nothing and having no respect for the locals or their environment. I can understand wild or freecamping if care is taken to not upset locals and to leave a site clean and tidy. So dont worry people, this is one motorhomer who wont be swelling the ranks in your favourite car park or wasteland.
Now where is the best place to sell a MH!!!!

I would find it depressing too but I believe that you don't have to be on a site with hundreds of others. Some folk love to be surrounded by people - many don't. Personally I would hate it.

On our first trip we thought it would be a great idea to hot foot it straight down to the south of France... it was horrendous! The sites were rammed full so tightly I doubt you'd be able to open a window fully. Obviously the people staying on those sites found them to their liking or else they'd just move on. I think that's the great thing with a motorhome... if you don't like the look of the place you just move on. Needless to say we hot footed it away from the south of France as quickly as we'd hot footed it in! We found some fantastic aires and less crowded sites - we had a great time.

Don't sell your motorhome - just don't head for the areas which are likely to be packed.

 

[Teuchter]

just expressing my feelings after a couple of glasses of wine
I bought my MH with a dream of going of for some winter sun but it sounds more like a nightmare to me.

You should not be surprised if lots of other folk also dream of winter sun in their MoHo - we do from October when we return from France until January when we head for Spain!

Believe me it is not all bad - yes some places do get overcrowded here in Spain but lots of sites, even when full, give the individual camper enough privacy - it's a matter of choosing your site or your wilding spot to suit you.

 

[busby]

Hi busby
Agreed, but not a lot of warm sun in the middle of winter.

True,,thats why Spain and The Algarve are so busy,,,Will be ok towards the end of march.Was out in nov and it wasn't that busy,,,,,BUSBY

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[busby]

Sorry Tam but that isn’t the case at the Los Madriles site. The bar is only small and by the pool area...... They don’t or didn’t when we were there serve €2 breakfasts and I didn’t see anyone drinking cheap beer in a morning in fact the drinks in the bar at Los Madriles are really expensive ...most people used to walk down to the village to the social where the locals go.

No English bars in Isla Plana or L:Azoha so you would struggle to get an English breakfast,,,one or two in Puerto de Mazarron but again mainly Spanish,,,BUSBY,,

 

[jumar]

just expressing my feelings after a couple of glasses of wine
I bought my MH with a dream of going of for some winter sun but it sounds more like a nightmare to me.

We have been motorhoming in Spain and Portugal for nearly 20 years now, we helped set up a motorhome camperstop, we live next door to it right now, we have loads of considerate people here, those who come back every year, it costs 7 euros a night an extra 3 for electric, we can take 32 vans, no problems here, everyone gets on with everyone else.
The point I am making is that motorhoming can be fun, and can be done without causing problems for the authorities, like some places are doing. Sites if the right ones are chosen can be a good mix, some sites, some camperstops, some overnighting at acceptable locations, but this is not the correct mix for most of the wilders.....arrive October leave April, spend as little on their overnight stays as possible....its been done for many years, but looking at the numbers, it's got out of hand bigtime, and because of this the Authorities will be clamping down even more than they have in the past. And I totally support this.

 

[joka250]

as a newby, I find this thread very depressing. The thought of staying on a site with hundreds of others, is not what I had envisaged when I shelled out a load of money for a MH.
how naive I am. I believe in paying fairly for any services received. In my mind, a freeloader is someone who wants to cheat the system, and get something for nothing and having no respect for the locals or their environment. I can understand wild or freecamping if care is taken to not upset locals and to leave a site clean and tidy. So dont worry people, this is one motorhomer who wont be swelling the ranks in your favourite car park or wasteland.
Now where is the best place to sell a MH!!!!

Don't sell, m h life is too good to walk away like that. Yes there are sites that would give a fifties slum a good run for its money but their are countless alternatives. We have recently (mid January) spent a week on a site in Peniscola in Spain, good sized pitches, all services, good showers and laundry if you want an few other pitches in use, just enough to look used. 12 euros a night longer term negotiable. Town centre a goodish walk away but good bus service available. Town itself quiet, out of season, but very pleasant. Guess very busy high season. This just one of many hundreds you could find. I'm sure many other recommended sites have or will be mentioned here.

 

[PhilandMena]

There's always Morocco ?

 

[Alanben]

Don't sell, m h life is too good to walk away like that. Yes there are sites that would give a fifties slum a good run for its money but their are countless alternatives. We have recently (mid January) spent a week on a site in Peniscola in Spain, good sized pitches, all services, good showers and laundry if you want an few other pitches in use, just enough to look used. 12 euros a night longer term negotiable. Town centre a goodish walk away but good bus service available. Town itself quiet, out of season, but very pleasant. Guess very busy high season. This just one of many hundreds you could find. I'm sure many other recommended sites have or will be mentioned here.

Thanks for the recommendation.

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