Motorhome on Stena lines

[Jenka]

They were lashed. The salutary lesson learned from that incident was that a couple of drivers had stayed in their cabs, the Fire Service were required to cut them free. The number of lashings is usually four and may be doubled in poor weather, remember, this vessel was also fitted with stabilisers.

Check the maritime regs its minimum 6 and yes probably were lashed but I dont know that for certain do I.

 

[Geo]

Am i right in thinking Maritime insurance payout is only a small % of lost value limited my Maritime law
Or did I dream that??

 

[Jenka]

Any haulier worth their salt would have maritime cargo insurance .

 

[WillH]

Just a thought but would you want to be in your vehicle if there is a fire and the car decks are flooded with CO2.

 

[PeteH]

The good old days getting the fitter to weld some hooks before shipping out !

Ah???. But then Who tested his welds?. , One favourite was the front towing eye. Other points where the axles, or the spring hangers. Don`t forget, the guys doing the lashing where not Stress Engineers. if it looked like it would, they used it!. On new cars, they used webbing straps over the wheels. If it got realy rough and they where too close,? lots of dented new Saabs got discharged in Immingham.

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[Brains]

Am i right in thinking Maritime insurance payout is only a small % of lost value limited my Maritime law
Or did I dream that??

Depends on the insurance .....
But if you lost say a lorry filled with your goods, the goods would be deemed as cargo, and as such you are in a "joint enterprise" with the ship owner (and his insurer), therefore a very good chance you would never see much of your money back.
You may be able to claim the value of the lorry back, but I'd not guarantee it.

 

[WillH]

The good old days getting the fitter to weld some hooks before shipping out !

Done that.

 

[Molly A]

The Med is a seperate sea area, and you are obviously aware that old European ferries go there to die. Different parts of the regs. apply to different types of vessels in different sea areas at different times of the year. And, as I pointed out, it is unsafe and foolhardy. Ferries that do not have an enclosed car deck may well ask you to stay in the vehicle, on these vessels it can be permitted. It isn't a case of one size fits all configurations, sea areas and seasons. On all the ferries I served on, and superindented it was not allowed under IMO regs. and prevention of terrorism law. Many lives were lost unnecessarily on the Herald of Free Enterprise because people remained with their vehicles.

On Anek you are above the waterline as per my post, with galleried sides so exhaust fumes not an issue. They dont however allow camping on board during the winter months due to inclement weather.

 

[WillH]

On Anek you are above the waterline as per my post, with galleried sides so exhaust fumes not an issue. They dont however allow camping on board during the winter months due to inclement weather.

It is foolhardy to stay in your vehicle. End of story.

 

[Molly A]

It is foolhardy to stay in your vehicle. End of story.

In your view, so not end of story. Happily Anek provide this facility for those that wish to use it. No engines are allowed to be used and the open galleries provide air and light and an escape route in the unhappy event of a disaster. It would actually be safer on this deck than cabins fully enclosed or below the waterline.

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[WillH]

The OP was asking with reference to Stena, who I worked for.

 

[frogijock]

Then how come Anek lines on the Italy to Greece routes allow It? Called camping pn boatd and they suppmy you with an EHU.The decks are not fully open...solid roof with open galleried side windows from waist height. They are subject to maritime regs as much as any northern European ferry company.

You answered your own question”” Anek lines, Greece””

 

[Molly A]

You answered your own question”” Anek lines, Greece””

Have you every used them? We have found them to be very professional with very modern ships, your assertions do not reflect reality.