Motorcycle gloves in France

[mustaphapint]

How did you easily manage 60mph downhill on your pushbike?

A reluctance to use brakes on long, straight, reasonably steep downhills.

 

[mustaphapint]

Based on that why bother with any kind of safety controls.

How about scrapping the driving licence? No need to learn to drive or ride properly or have your ability tested, that's just more nanny state. Your mate can teach you in 10 minutes in the pub car park and you're good to go.

Funflair answered that with the same comment I would have made.

 

[peterc10]

To be fair anyone over the age of 17 riding a scooter looks a right tit whatever they're wearing.
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Nah ....... only one thing that looks good when you are riding a scooter, whatever age you are. And that is an ex-US Army fishtail Parka.

 

[mustaphapint]

So how many people who have and wear gloves have gone out and checked them and found that they don't have the CE approval that the French require? I did and they don't.

Martin

My summer gloves don't either, but I will still wear them in France later this month.

 

[Zigisla]

Another informative thread ripped apart!! I am sure the object of the OP was not to say you must wear gloves - who wouldn't, but to wear CE approved gloves. That's all no more no less.

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[mustaphapint]

Another informative thread ripped apart!! I am sure the object of the OP was not to say you must wear gloves - who wouldn't, but to wear CE approved gloves. That's all no more no less.

Not at all. The information was given and understood but what's the problem with using it to generate a debate on a wider issue?

 

[funflair]

I think the object of the OP was to advise the masses of information that he had received first hand, for this I am sure we are all grateful as we are now more informed, what we now do with that information will differ but at least we can't say we didn't know.

Learn a little every day.

Martin

 

[EX51SSS]

You'd look a right tit wearing leathers in Benidorm though wouldn't you not to mention heat stroke.

Probably like this one?

 

[Zigisla]

Not at all. The information was given and understood but what's the problem with using it to generate a debate on a wider issue?

Nothing what so ever, but if the info was gratefully received by so many, why has the OP only received one thanks for it?

 

[gus-lopez]

Based on that why bother with any kind of safety controls.

How about scrapping the driving licence? No need to learn to drive or ride properly or have your ability tested, that's just more nanny state. Your mate can teach you in 10 minutes in the pub car park and you're good to go.

Once you adopt that attitude you have lost any argument .

Perhaps the fools can pick up their extra medical bills. I wonder how much the extra hours of surgery, skin grafts and physio adds to the cost of being a fool.

I've no problem paying the bills for anyone who does this..................as long as I can stop paying for all & every drug addict ,gastric bypass, etc;etc ?

Nothing what so ever, but if the info was gratefully received by so many, why has the OP only received one thanks for it?

& it wasn't you

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[Zigisla]

& it wasn't you

Cos I don't ride and never will. To quote @NickNic above - "To be fair anyone over the age of 17 riding a scooter looks a right tit whatever they're wearing. " I would add, so does anyone 17 plus Stones. I fall into both categories.

 

[mustaphapint]

Nothing what so ever, but if the info was gratefully received by so many, why has the OP only received one thanks for it?

Possibly because most of us already knew about it, but you're right that's not a reason to ignore a well intentioned piece of information.

 

[MattR]

Gravity I guess.

Martin

A reluctance to use brakes on long, straight, reasonably steep downhills.

Must be longer and steeper than our hills - we only manage 60kmh - about half your speed.

 

[mustaphapint]

Must be longer and steeper than our hills - we only manage 60kmh - about half your speed.

I'm too aware of my own mortality now to be bothered about repeating it, but I've seen over 60 mph on my computer descending into Hawes, North Yorkshire, coming down Mt Ventoux and Col d'Isere (and yes it was calibrated correctly) I'm sure that's not unique. Even a ride in the Peak District would see a highest speed of well over 50 mph recorded. And 60kph is nearer 40mph than 30

 

[Zigisla]

I'm too aware of my own mortality now to be bothered about repeating it, but I've seen over 60 mph on my computer descending into Hawes, North Yorkshire, coming down Mt Ventoux and Col d'Isere (and yes it was calibrated correctly) I'm sure that's not unique. Even a ride in the Peak District would see a highest speed of well over 50 mph recorded. And 60kph is nearer 40mph than 30

On 1" wheels. - Nutter!! I've just Googled Chris Froome on his crazy downhill win during the TDF last year, he notched up 85 mph. Even more of a nutter!!

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[funflair]

Must be longer and steeper than our hills - we only manage 60kmh - about half your speed.

In that case you need a decent front ring.

Martin

 

[mustaphapint]

On 1" wheels. - Nutter!! I've just Googled Chris Froome on his crazy downhill win during the TDF last year, he notched up 85 mph. Even more of a nutter!!

I was just about to post the same thing. Makes me feel really slow now. I'm a lot more cautious now after I had a front wheel blow out coming down Winnats Pass a few years ago. I wasn't going anything like as fast as the speeds I've been quoting and I managed to stay upright but it made me realise the possible consequences of an unplanned incident at those kind of speeds wearing nothing but lycra.

 

[Zigisla]

I was just about to post the same thing. Makes me feel really slow now. I'm a lot more cautious now after I had a front wheel blow out coming down Winnats Pass a few years ago. I wasn't going anything like as fast as the speeds I've been quoting and I managed to stay upright but it made me realise the possible consequences of an unplanned incident at those kind of speeds wearing nothing but lycra.

Gave a funny cos nothing else seemed right. - Bringing us right back to wearing full leathers and CE approved gloves for all two wheeled modes of transport.

 

[hilldweller]

I agree with the above leathers everytime you go out

Tell that to the French and Italian bike cops down south, unless changes have been made recently. It's just too hot in the Med in summer.

 

[mustaphapint]

Gave a funny cos nothing else seemed right. - Bringing us right back to wearing full leathers and CE approved gloves for all two wheeled modes of transport.

That's not the same. The difference is that it's my choice. It's my choice to take part in what some consider a dangerous activity and it's my choice to wear what I consider reasonable protection if I do choose to take part.

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[RowleyBirkinQC]

Well, it seems my "Racer" (the Austrian motorcycle clothing manufacturer, not mindset) leather gloves which I've had for many years already carry the CE mark. No idea if my Richa summer gloves do, as I can't be arsed to go out to the garage to check, but they are a French company so they may be covered...

Textiles and mesh/airflow gear is the way forward in the summer, not shorts and T-shirts.

 

[hilldweller]

CE approved gloves

Just picked up my newest gloves, Frank Thomas bought last year - says they are waterproof. So that's me stuffed.

 

[Zigisla]

Just picked up my newest gloves, Frank Thomas bought last year - says they are waterproof. So that's me stuffed.

when you ride in France

 

[hilldweller]

when you ride in France

They almost have the monopoly for us getting into Europe, economically.

I know. Tipex.

.............C.......................E......................

That'll fool 'em.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

I can't be bothered to go and check but according to the inter web my Rukka winter/bad weather ones are CE approved.

I'd guess my Dainese light weight summer/cruiser ones probably aren't.

I had a read up about this earlier and it appears that some kit manufacturers produce two types of glove - ones for road use which have to be CE marked and also gloves that are intended to be "fashion" items and aren't for road use. These don't have to be CE marked.

The requirement comes because motorcycle gloves are considered PPE. This isn't new though, it's been that way for years across the whole EU so unless the French are acting on their own and requiring more than the EU then something isn't quite right in the OP, someone has misheard or been misinformed somewhere along the line.

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[mustaphapint]

The requirement comes because motorcycle gloves are considered PPE. This isn't new though, it's been that way for years across the whole EU so unless the French are acting on their own and requiring more than the EU then something isn't quite right in the OP, someone has misheard or been misinformed somewhere along the line.

The French requirement is that it is now an offence not to wear gloves whilst riding a motorcycle. I think small machines may be exempt but I don't need to know that so I'm not bothering to check. In addition to having to wear gloves they must be CE approved.
I've just checked both my winter and summer gloves and neither bear a CE mark, despite my winter ones coming from a major supplier. I think riders who don't wear gloves at all will run a likeleyhood of being stopped by the Gendarme but I doubt they'll be doing spot checks on gloved riders.

 

[mick noe]

Was out yesterday no gloves had to stop at a car accident police all over the place no-one batted an eyelid at me in shorts and no gloves.... also no reflective stickers on crash hat. Been through Spain Portugal Italy and now France locals ride in anything they like and some of the headgear looks very suspect. I would never advise riding without protective clothing to others, but when it's really hot I do And so do many of our European friends....(including the police) Not sure if I am correct but sticking to the rules seems to be a british trait.... nobody else seems to worry

 

[laird of Dunstan]

Having fell down a gravel track whilst out running and the discomfort afterwards of having to soak your clothes off in the bath and the sting from sweat remind me that when I go out on my 1600 cc flat 6 honda , to strap on full leathers and always wear a helmet ,sure it's uncomfortable at times in the summer but that discomfort pales into insignificant compared to having to soak your clothes off every night for a couple of months

 

[Richard n Ann]

I wear 'Showa 380' gloves if it's cooler they are only about 3 quid on eBay and ok (in my opinion) for summer. I would probably wear jeans in France too, as it's usually cold when we go through.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

The French requirement is that it is now an offence not to wear gloves whilst riding a motorcycle. I think small machines may be exempt but I don't need to know that so I'm not bothering to check. In addition to having to wear gloves they must be CE approved.
I've just checked both my winter and summer gloves and neither bear a CE mark, despite my winter ones coming from a major supplier. I think riders who don't wear gloves at all will run a likeleyhood of being stopped by the Gendarme but I doubt they'll be doing spot checks on gloved riders.

That would make sense. If they've made gloves mandatory where they weren't before then they would obviously specify CE marked ones.

As I posted previously if you ask most manufacturers they will say that non CE marked gloves are "fashion" items and not intended for road use. Utter nonsense of course but that covers them if anyone comes a cropper whilst wearing them.

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