Motorcycle gloves in France

[telsdog]

I have been informed today by a fellow scooter rider in France that new laws came into force in Nov 2016 requiring all riders and passengers to wear ce approved gloves. On the spot fine if caught.
Sorry if this has been posted before.

 

[TheTwoOfUs]

Why wouldn't you wear gloves? The first thing that you do when you fall down/off is to put your hands down.

 

[Two on Tour]

I suppose the new law is to try and protect the prats with no common sense.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

What's the problem?

Anyone who doesn't wear gloves deserves everything they get.

Same as the idiots who think riding in shorts and a t shirt is a good idea. No sympathy at all from me for anything that happens to them.

 

[gus-lopez]

Same as the idiots who think riding in shorts and a t shirt is a good idea.
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That's the official Guardia Civil motor cycle Trafico summer uniform , albeit a proper shirt.

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[Deleted member 29692]

That's the official Guardia Civil motor cycle Trafico summer uniform , albeit a proper shirt.

I'd laugh at them if they picked up a case of gravel rash just like I'd laugh at anyone else

The last person I know who it happened to was my lad. He went off to college one morning on his moped wearing shorts. I told him not to, he said he would be fine and then proceeded to fall off. He got no sympathy from me

 

[Richard n Ann]

You'd look a right tit wearing leathers in Benidorm though wouldn't you not to mention heat stroke.

 

[hilldweller]

And they demand 4 reflective stickers on your helmet.

 

[Two on Tour]

Wow, I would struggle to do that.

 

[MattR]

You'd look a right tit wearing leathers in Benidorm though wouldn't you not to mention heat stroke.

I'd rather look like a right tit than lose my skin.

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

I'd rather look like a right tit than lose my skin.

Bet that's what my mate thought about 30 years ago when he decided to take his Z1000 to work as it was a nice sunny day..
Came off doing over a 100mph with just shorts trainers and a t shirt on, unfortunately his dad who worked on the same site as him found him in a field as he was going to work.
He was lucky in that he only lost most of the fat and muscle off of his buttock and his shoulder as he slid on the road a bit before going into the field
Funny but he never got another bike after that.
I might add that unlike the rest of us who progressed from field bikes to Fizzys then 250s and bigger bikes he went straight to the Z1000!!

 

[Fletton]

When I was much much..... much younger....

I stood on the "running plates" of a VW Beetle...
then I thought.... this is getting fast!!!.

So stupidly jumped off....

Needless to say ... legs didn't go as fast and I duly planted... hands "palms" hit the newly gritted road first....

It wasn't pleasant... folk thought i'd been burnt ( both hand n' lower arms in bandages)...

Rode MC's from 16 until i bought Moho... always gloves....

And other protective stuff.... road rash is nasty...

 

[gus-lopez]

And they demand 4 reflective stickers on your helmet.

Didn't that get rescinded ? I know from the acquaintance that lives there , a biker, that they were kicking up as it can damage the integrity of the helmet & manufacturer's do not like it.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

You'd look a right tit wearing leathers in Benidorm though wouldn't you not to mention heat stroke.

You'd look more of a tit with full leg gravel rash.

 

[hilldweller]

Didn't that get rescinded ?.

Don't know but I've got them on a polycarb Caberg.

A quick google did not find a definite rescind. I did get that it was for helmets sold in France. I did get that it did not apply retrospectively.

I DID GET who the hell wants to be arguing the law with a French cop esp after Brexit.

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[Richard n Ann]

You'd look more of a tit with full leg gravel rash.

Might never happen... where as every time you go out on the scooter you look a right tit in leathers ...
Seriously though, why do people who choose to wear full protective clothing (in whatever climate) seem so bitter about people who don't bother, it's almost as if they relish the stories of people they know or have heard of that have been hurt because it reinforces their philosophy. We all know the risks. We are all grown ups, I say to hell with the nanny state and wear what you want.

 

[Scotties]

It's not as simple as it sounds, the fine (and points for French) is for not wearing 'Approved gloves with a label mentioning European directive 89/686 / EEC' by both driver and passenger.

The requirement to carry Spare bulbs, high viz and breathalysers carries no fine, but not wearing them during a 'incident' does?

Not sure if the four reflective stickers on the helmet are retrospective or whether we all have to get them.

Belgium already requires wearing of protective clothing, i.e.: gloves, jacket with long sleeves, trousers with long legs or overall, and ankle protective boots.

 

[Zepp]

I agree with the above leathers everytime you go out , the kids use to call me the fat power ranger

 

[mustaphapint]

It isn't a straightforward choice between full leathers or shorts and t-shirts. There is a reasonable choice of lightweight protective garments on the market. Maybe not as fully protective as full leathers but a good compromise in hot climates.
I also believe it should be up to the rider to manage their own risk and suffer the consequences if they get it wrong.
I too have chosen in the past to ride occasionally in shorts and t-shirt and got away with it, but I certainly wouldn't have been doing 100 mph dressed like that. The more vulnerable you feel the more care you take (normally).
Nobody suggest cyclists should wear leathers and I can easily clock 60 mph downhill on my push bike dressed only in Lycra (or I have done, I don't look good in Lycra anymore, if in fact I ever did!)

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Might never happen... where as every time you go out on the scooter you look a right tit in leathers ...
Seriously though, why do people who choose to wear full protective clothing (in whatever climate) seem so bitter about people who don't bother, it's almost as if they relish the stories of people they know or have heard of that have been hurt because it reinforces their philosophy. We all know the risks. We are all grown ups, I say to hell with the nanny state and wear what you want.

To be fair anyone over the age of 17 riding a scooter looks a right tit whatever they're wearing.

Falling off at any sort of speed when you aren't wearing the right kit has only got to happen once. Perhaps you will find out for yourself one day although I hope you don't. I bet if it does happen you'll always wear the right kit afterwards.

I won't put pictures on here but just Google "gravel rash" It's not being bitter and it's definitely not anything to do with any nanny state. It's common sense, nothing more.

How do you feel about the requirement to wear a helmet? Common sense or nanny state?

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[mustaphapint]

How do you feel about the requirement to wear a helmet? Common sense or nanny state?

I know that question wasn't directed at me but I'll put in my take on it anyway.
Anyone who rides without a helmet, or indeed a reasonable level of protection, is a fool. But I defend the right of anyone to choose to be a fool.
Otherwise, where does state control over our own attitude to risk end?

 

[Deleted member 29692]

I know that question wasn't directed at me but I'll put in my take on it anyway.
Anyone who rides without a helmet, or indeed a reasonable level of protection, is a fool. But I defend the right of anyone to choose to be a fool.
Otherwise, where does state control over our own attitude to risk end?

Based on that why bother with any kind of safety controls.

How about scrapping the driving licence? No need to learn to drive or ride properly or have your ability tested, that's just more nanny state. Your mate can teach you in 10 minutes in the pub car park and you're good to go.

 

[EssexBoy]

Otherwise, where does state control over our own attitude to risk end?

With fines for not wearing gloves with the correct label in them?

 

[MattR]

I know that question wasn't directed at me but I'll put in my take on it anyway.
Anyone who rides without a helmet, or indeed a reasonable level of protection, is a fool. But I defend the right of anyone to choose to be a fool.
Otherwise, where does state control over our own attitude to risk end?

Perhaps the fools can pick up their extra medical bills. I wonder how much the extra hours of surgery, skin grafts and physio adds to the cost of being a fool.

 

[funflair]

Based on that why bother with any kind of safety controls.

How about scrapping the driving licence? No need to learn to drive or ride properly or have your ability tested, that's just more nanny state. Your mate can teach you in 10 minutes in the pub car park and you're good to go.

Personal safety gear is what it says "personal" the requirement to be tested for ability/competence to ride or drive safely would affect other people if it was not there. So not really the same.

Martin

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[MattR]

It isn't a straightforward choice between full leathers or shorts and t-shirts. There is a reasonable choice of lightweight protective garments on the market. Maybe not as fully protective as full leathers but a good compromise in hot climates.
I also believe it should be up to the rider to manage their own risk and suffer the consequences if they get it wrong.
I too have chosen in the past to ride occasionally in shorts and t-shirt and got away with it, but I certainly wouldn't have been doing 100 mph dressed like that. The more vulnerable you feel the more care you take (normally).
Nobody suggest cyclists should wear leathers and I can easily clock 60 mph downhill on my push bike dressed only in Lycra (or I have done, I don't look good in Lycra anymore, if in fact I ever did!)

How did you easily manage 60mph downhill on your pushbike?

 

[EssexBoy]

Based on that why bother with any kind of safety controls.

BOOOOMMM... It's a bit early to call on the nuclear argument, isn't it?

 

[EssexBoy]

Sorry, bad signal, double post...

 

[funflair]

So how many people who have and wear gloves have gone out and checked them and found that they don't have the CE approval that the French require? I did and they don't.

Martin

 

[funflair]

How did you easily manage 60mph downhill on your pushbike?

Gravity I guess.

Martin

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