Motorcycle fatality (1 Viewer)

[gerry mcg]

I saw this on BBC feed

Biker dies after A87 motorhome crash

Alexander McCracken, 73, was airlifted to hospital after the crash near Glen Shiel.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Howard B]

Terrible, thoughts with all those involved.
My daughters brother in law had a bike accident last Sunday outside Settle after a car apparently turned across him.
He was in surgery for 8 hours and had 40 units of blood on the day. Still not regained consciousness and likely to have life changing injuries when he recovers. Making me rethink whether or not to continue riding.

 

[PaulyP]

Terrible, thoughts with all those involved.
My daughters brother in law had a bike accident last Sunday outside Settle after a car apparently turned across him.
He was in surgery for 8 hours and had 40 units of blood on the day. Still not regained consciousness and likely to have life changing injuries when he recovers. Making me rethink whether or not to continue riding.

My neighbour, biker for many years, lost his best mate in a bike crash 12 months ago, one of his sons threatened to take a sledge hammer to his bike if he didn’t get rid of it, his other two sons and his wife all wanted him to give it up as he had a serious crash himself about 5 years ago, he no longer has a bike just a big off-road truck, he’s of to Portugal in it on Tuesday, still gets his thrills.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Life has got to be worth living, I'd be quite down in the dumps without my rides to look forward to. And it may never kill me anyway

We all have to die some day

 

[angusboy]

just ordered a grey hornet do u like it regards

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[Tombola]

Terrible news...

Sat at a chicane slowing junction on my pride and joy. All of a sudden..WHACK...From behind written off bike and I'm still getting my legs better 15 months on..
She was putting make up on in the mirror late for work.

 

[PaulyP]

Terrible news...

Sat at a chicane slowing junction on my pride and joy. All of a sudden..WHACK...From behind written off bike and I'm still getting my legs better 15 months on..
She was putting make up on in the mirror late for work.

In that situation she should be banned for life from driving.

 

[Richard n Ann]

just ordered a grey hornet do u like it regards

It's by far the best bike I've ever ridden, thought the Duke was good but this is like a Rolls Royce Join my group on Facebook "The new CB750 Hornet Group"

 

[angusboy]

I don't do Facebook but I can't have mine until mid November

 

[Jewellbags]

In the year 2000 my eldest brother decided to cross a roundabout over a motorway on his Blade . His illustrious career in the press industry was over as was his marriage. He spent weeks in a coma and months in bed and went from being a Greek Adonis to a something you would see from a prison camp in world war 2 . He suffered brain damage and a shattered pelvis . During “recovery” he tried to take his life , twice .

Today he is married , has a son , daughter and grandsons , holds down a good career as a NEBOSH officer and right now is touring Normandy with his missus -‘he still walks like a wonky donky. I gave up my bike after much pressure for 10 years and now and again pooter around on my cruiser - but prefer the motorhome tbh .

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[Richard n Ann]

I don't do Facebook but I can't have mine until mid November

I hear you, my friend is also on the waiting list, hers should be September though

 

[EuroTrotters]

Terrible, thoughts with all those involved.
My daughters brother in law had a bike accident last Sunday outside Settle after a car apparently turned across him.
He was in surgery for 8 hours and had 40 units of blood on the day. Still not regained consciousness and likely to have life changing injuries when he recovers. Making me rethink whether or not to continue riding.

I hope he gets better and makes a good recovery

Terrible news...

Sat at a chicane slowing junction on my pride and joy. All of a sudden..WHACK...From behind written off bike and I'm still getting my legs better 15 months on..
She was putting make up on in the mirror late for work.

We need an angry icon.

Selfish bitch

 

[The Wino]

I got shunted from behind by a pickup two days ago but in our car. If I had been a motorbike he would probably have shunted me into the path of a car passing the junction at the time. I've flown gliders for years and now sail both a bit risky. It's a matter of how much you enjoy the risky thing you do were only here once!

 

[Tombola]

Selfish bitch

Oh aye...

And when 2 guys lifted the bike off me she asked what was I doing stopped.

Erm there was a car coming tother way luv...I had to stop.

Was a woman at the bus stop came and told us she was in the mirror putting make-up on.

 

[Shrimp]

Had a bike written off years ago in Wales.
Out for a scenic ride long straight road, old BSA 650, 2-up.
Car in front parked on otherside of road decided to U turn, started to move-hesitated-carried on……bang into the side of him.
Police prosecuted him, (we were just witnesses) said he should have checked road again half way over and would have seen us as no obstructions!

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[Abacist]

Just met a guy run over by a Tesla on his motorbike. The Tesla evidently interpreted his single tail light as being a car much farther away than he was, on his bike!

This technology is not safe to rely on yet!

 

[The Wino]

Just met a guy run over by a Tesla on his motorbike. The Tesla evidently interpreted his single tail light as being a car much farther away than he was, on his bike!

This technology is not safe to rely on yet!

Are you saying that the Tesla driver was unable to see the difference as well? It sounds odd to me. Our car has proximity sensors it doesn't mean I don't brake until they cut in

 

[EuroTrotters]

I was just watching i video of friend of friends son funeral who was killed on Trafford park. I was cleaning my iPhone up .

Inquest said he hit close to 100 mph in a 30. Or something along those lines.

Woman pulled out of a junction, police said she would of had little chance of seeing him.

 

[Tombola]

Just met a guy run over by a Tesla on his motorbike. The Tesla evidently interpreted his single tail light as being a car much farther away than he was, on his bike!

This technology is not safe to rely on yet!

Don't want to go against him or you on this but I find that tough to swallow and am calling g him out as a little BS from someone...maybe even to him from someone else.
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One of the comments I made when. I got smashed in the back was if she was driving a tesla it wouldn't have happened.
On autopilot it would have stopped...and if she was driving overriding autopilot it beeps and judder like bloody hell. But will carry on if you insist.

So 2 things...one it wasnt the cars fault and 2 the car driver ignored the warnings.

Teslas don't look for lights they see objects and they clearly show a motorbike or pedestrian in the way on the screens that can be analysed .

Who did the investigation and analysis of the tesla...they can't just rock up and dive in... they have to have permission from them and I think also tesla. Gdpr and all that.

but I do agree it's not to be relied on yet...I think most would agree.

Same as a woman driving to work putting make up on isn't.

 

[Tombola]

I was just watching i video of friend of friends son funeral who was killed on Trafford park. I was cleaning my iPhone up .

Inquest said he hit close to 100 mph in a 30. Or something along those lines.

Woman pulled out of a junction, police said she would of had little chance of seeing him.





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Under 25s have less fear of danger and consequences. Poor sod

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[The Wino]

I was just watching i video of friend of friends son funeral who was killed on Trafford park. I was cleaning my iPhone up .

Inquest said he hit close to 100 mph in a 30. Or something along those lines.

Woman pulled out of a junction, police said she would of had little chance of seeing him.





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I think thats really sad for all involved and we all did stupid things when young ( in my case going around the ledge on the outside of the halls of residence a few floors up to mess up other people's rooms).
But I do hope it was mentioned at the funeral what a stupid thing it was to do not some sort of heroics to emulate if I'd slipped off the same for me.

 

[2x2camper]

Just met a guy run over by a Tesla on his motorbike. The Tesla evidently interpreted his single tail light as being a car much farther away than he was, on his bike!

This technology is not safe to rely on yet!

Did the driver not know that they are allowed to press the brake as well.

 

[Guigsy]

I sold my bike a few years ago. Riding in the UK passed the point where the risk and stress was no longer worth the reward. Too many potholes, too many idiots trying to kill me, too much traffic to make the riding fun. The only time I was enjoying the bike was a couple of weeks per year when I went touring abroad... which was just eating into my Moho time.

I now mountain/gravel bike for kicks now. Keeps me fit, I can do it more often. And if I stack it, it'll probably be my fault and result in a broken bone, not death. Better risk to reward ratio.

 

[The Wino]

Don't want to go against him or you on this but I find that tough to swallow and am calling g him out as a little BS from someone...maybe even to him from someone else.
.
One of the comments I made when. I got smashed in the back was if she was driving a tesla it wouldn't have happened.
On autopilot it would have stopped...and if she was driving overriding autopilot it beeps and judder like bloody hell. But will carry on if you insist.

So 2 things...one it wasnt the cars fault and 2 the car driver ignored the warnings.

Teslas don't look for lights they see objects and they clearly show a motorbike or pedestrian in the way on the screens that can be analysed .

Who did the investigation and analysis of the tesla...they can't just rock up and dive in... they have to have permission from them and I think also tesla. Gdpr and all that.

but I do agree it's not to be relied on yet...I think most would agree.

Same as a woman driving to work putting make up on isn't.

If the woman had been alert it wouldn't have happened. I think I'd sooner rely on the Tesla. A lot seem to think that the test whether technology is advantageous is whether it's perfect. When you think about it the test is really is it better than the average human.

 

[Guigsy]

When you think about it the test is really is it better than the average human.

Yes. But better on average for all kinds of accidents. It might be the an autonomous car is a bit worse in some areas. But if it's many times better in other areas (mostly because it reacts faster, doesn't get distracted on its phone and won't fall asleep), there's a net benefit.

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[Silver-Fox]

If the woman had been alert it wouldn't have happened. I think I'd sooner rely on the Tesla. A lot seem to think that the test whether technology is advantageous is whether it's perfect. When you think about it the test is really is it better than the average human.

There was a example where the car decided it was better to plough into pedestrians than crash the car.

I think it was a simulation

Not sure that’s better than a human decision

 

[Guigsy]

There was a example where the car decided it was better to plough into pedestrians than crash the car.

I think it was a simulation

Not sure that’s better than a human decision

Pretty sure a human wouldn't think, they'd just make a reflex action to avoid hitting the hard thing. There's plenty of examples of drivers swerving onto the pavement to avoid accidents and taking out peds.

 

[Tombola]

really is it better than the average human.

I can vouch for that

 

[Tombola]

There was a example where the car decided it was better to plough into pedestrians than crash the car.

I think it was a simulation

Not sure that’s better than a human decision

Was faked

 

[Tombola]

It's been proven time and again per millions of.miles driven autonomous cars are safer.

Put it this way they aren't made to take driving tests again when they are old.

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