MOT-style Checklist when no MOT required (2 Viewers)

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Oct 12, 2009
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Our N&B Arto 69 GL (2003) is Polish-registered as 'Vintage' and as such does not again require an MOT equivalent.

My commercial garage here is thorough and sometimes spots items which need correcting.

However, for my peace of mind I would like to have a checklist to which I can refer and instruct him to check certain items.

Please, where can I source such a list?

TIA
 
Nov 10, 2013
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Our N&B Arto 69 GL (2003) is Polish-registered as 'Vintage' and as such does not again require an MOT equivalent.

My commercial garage here is thorough and sometimes spots items which need correcting.

However, for my peace of mind I would like to have a checklist to which I can refer and instruct him to check certain items.

Please, where can I source such a list?

TIA
Any good ?
#https://assets.publishing.service.g...f021ac2da87/mot-inspection-checklist-vt29.pdf
 
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Upon service (particularly on an older vehicle) A competent mechanic will check everything and more that is tested on MOT,except possibly emmisions and rolling road
 
Dec 24, 2014
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Ever since lighting was by Calor gas.
Our N&B Arto 69 GL (2003) is Polish-registered as 'Vintage' and as such does not again require an MOT equivalent.
Even though it's exempt (and I assume by '...commercial garage here...' you mean in Poland) can you not have it MOT'd at a testing station anyway? Several of my U.K. non-technical chums still take their 'Historic' (MOT exempt) motorbikes for a test.
However, perhaps you trust your mechanic more than a testing station mechanic.
 
Feb 6, 2019
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Lucky you! Am taking 1992 reg ex.German LMC 560 for the Spainish ITV in 12 hours!! It was imported here in 2017 and seems to require a 6-monthly test ever since, as well as paying 'permis de circulaciĆ³n' (car tax= ā‚¬180) every year since then. It's on a Spainish J plate but should be pre 2000, which they don't do here- cept if you register as historic, which means you can't drive in the dark,amongst other issues...

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Oct 12, 2009
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That list gives general headings but I was looking for the sort of detailed test instructions issued to MOT testers, with limits etc.
Even though it's exempt (and I assume by '...commercial garage here...' you mean in Poland) can you not have it MOT'd at a testing station anyway? Several of my U.K. non-technical chums still take their 'Historic' (MOT exempt) motorbikes for a test.
However, perhaps you trust your mechanic more than a testing station mechanic.

I saw the MOT-equivalent test done here prior to re-registration and was not impressed by it compared with a UK MOT.

At the moment I have been satisfied over 10 years with the work my commercial garage has done, but until a couple of years ago I was also having an MOT in UK as it was still UK registered.

I may be being overcautious by wanting to double-check what the garage is doing but with a 21 year-old vehicle I would prefer to be sure than sorry.
 

Al n Val

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Surely is this as simple as taking it to a MOT station, asking them to test it but not issue a certificate.

Is this what you mean, getting a full inspection carried out to be safe.
 
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Oct 12, 2009
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Surely is this as simple as taking it to a MOT station, asking them to test it but not issue a certificate.

Is this what you mean, getting a full inspection carried out to be safe.

Had you read my post #6 when you wrote that?

I did not use the term 'full inspection'. I just want to know what needs to be inspected to what standards, so that I can cross-check that all has been done.

Part of the problem is that the Polish garage boss does not speak much English and Basia, as my translator, does not speak 'auto technical' in either language.
 

Al n Val

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no

I was typing my post and was interrupted before finishing it and I had not seen that you had posted.

Sorry for trying to help
 
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Nov 10, 2013
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That list gives general headings but I was looking for the sort of detailed test instructions issued to MOT testers, with limits etc.


I saw the MOT-equivalent test done here prior to re-registration and was not impressed by it compared with a UK MOT.

At the moment I have been satisfied over 10 years with the work my commercial garage has done, but until a couple of years ago I was also having an MOT in UK as it was still UK registered.

I may be being overcautious by wanting to double-check what the garage is doing but with a 21 year-old vehicle I would prefer to be sure than sorry.
You may have to condense this then
 
Jun 10, 2010
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Even though it's exempt (and I assume by '...commercial garage here...' you mean in Poland) can you not have it MOT'd at a testing station anyway? Several of my U.K. non-technical chums still take their 'Historic' (MOT exempt) motorbikes for a test.
However, perhaps you trust your mechanic more than a testing station mechanic.
As a fellow classic owner I do think there should be a basic structural and safety check for "exempt" vehicles. Especially as classic vehicles are apparently being sought after in ULEZ land so perhaps not driven by enthusiasts.
 
Feb 19, 2018
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When I was a Truck & Coach Operator, my vehicles had to have a tick box Safety Inspection every 6 weeks carried out by my Mechanic and these records had to be kept (if I remember correctly) 2years.

Perhaps it's worth having a word with an old Truck Operator in Poland to see if a similar system works there and see if you can buy a few inspection sheets?

I'm sure, despite being retired for 10+ years, I still have some blank, unused ones somewhere? šŸ˜„
 
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Oct 12, 2009
11,085
24,450
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A Class N+B Arto 69GL
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Feb 19, 2018
5,310
88,260
EAST ANGLIA
Funster No
52,484
MH
Murvi Morello
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Since 1975
Our N&B Arto 69 GL (2003) is Polish-registered as 'Vintage' and as such does not again require an MOT equivalent.

My commercial garage here is thorough and sometimes spots items which need correcting.

However, for my peace of mind I would like to have a checklist to which I can refer and instruct him to check certain items.

Please, where can I source such a list?

TIA
Interesting that your 20 year old vehicle is now classed in Poland as Vintage and no longer needs an MOT?

In the UK, we have to wait 40 years before we get that privilege.
I never really understood the 40yrs but 20...
seems a very short period and I wonder IF those vehicles are legal when travelling in this Country.
A lot of people think that as long as it is legal it the Country of Origin, it must be legal everywhere BUT, the driver is still responsible IF it's not roadworthy! šŸ¤”

I'm told, this is the reason why the Government checking facility was situated near Leatherhead off the M25.
It's handy for checking Foreign Trucks coming off the Kent Ferry terminals etc. ?

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Oct 12, 2009
11,085
24,450
SW London, Poland and all Europe
Funster No
8,876
MH
A Class N+B Arto 69GL
Exp
Since 2009
Interesting that your 20 year old vehicle is now classed in Poland as Vintage and no longer needs an MOT?

In the UK, we have to wait 40 years before we get that privilege.
I never really understood the 40yrs but 20...
seems a very short period and I wonder IF those vehicles are legal when travelling in this Country.
A lot of people think that as long as it is legal it the Country of Origin, it must be legal everywhere BUT, the driver is still responsible IF it's not roadworthy! šŸ¤”

I'm told, this is the reason why the Government checking facility was situated near Leatherhead off the M25.
It's handy for checking Foreign Trucks coming off the Kent Ferry terminals etc. ?

It is a bit of a long story but here is the precis.

Poland refuses to register RHD vehicles over 3.5t, which I had to do post Brexit. Any replacement vehicle would have been subject to 18% 'Excise Tax'

A friend regularly imports vintage cars for refurbishment and resale. He suggested registering it as Vintage, which is based not only on age but also 'historical interest'. He has a specialist who regularly does the registrations because he runs exhibitions of them, so his word seems to stand in the registration office. I do not know what he put on the paperwork but he got it registered.

The law has since changed and age now comes into it, even if historic, so we luckily just got in in time.

As for your comment about being roadworthy, ensuring that it is so is my reason for starting this thread.
 

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