MOT every 2 years for vans over 20 yrs old?

I think he must have a dodgy MOT then, as I know for a fact that he dose not return to the UK during the winter months which means the Dec to Jan, 13 month period to show the years 2017 - 2019 isn't possible in his case.
 
I am exempt from any test, ‘cos I is a classic. :gum:

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Try convincing Vosa when they walk in on you that the test your doing is a "Simulation"
Thats why it's NOT Logged ON to the system:rolleyes:
You guys have no idea believe me:doh:
 
pappajohn said:
But some less scrupulous owners may ignore that fact as it's exempt.
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It should/could be quite simple.If it is put through an mot & fails it is no longer exempt until it is retested & passes.
It should have been a requirement that it had to have an mot pass at 39 years to qualify for exemption at 40 years.
 
I seem to remember there used to be such a thing as "Showman's Vehicles" which were MOT exempt... several of my street/circus performing mates had them...


JJ :cool:
 
Geo said:
Try convincing Vosa when they walk in on you that the test your doing is a "Simulation"
Thats why it's NOT Logged ON to the system:rolleyes:
You guys have no idea believe me:doh:
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Same as a pre mot inspection.

My mate does them all the time what's the problem
 
You again :pray: Like i said youve no idea' Google flogging a dead horse.:doh:

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Northernraider said:
Same as a pre mot inspection.

My mate does them all the time what's the problem
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Pre mot certainly makes sense considering if it fails on an actual mot you can lose whatever mot is left - and you can drive it home or a place to get work done without flagging up as unroad-worthy vehicle - before anyone says it is unsafe you could of waited for proper last minute mot and still been driving it on the road
 
my frend who has mot exempt vehicles has his checked over by a mot garage annually in the event of there being anything wrong he usually get it fixed before taking it on the road.
it's scaring me how many old bangers are going around on the road with no mechanical checks every vehicle that has a potential to kill should have regulation including push bikes I have a big dent in my car Frome a twat who had no brakes
bill
 
Geo said:
You again :pray: Like i said youve no idea' Google flogging a dead horse.:doh:
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Aye although it sounds like you have no idea yourself and just see in black and white.

Again answer the question just what has vosa got to do with any mechanic doing a pre mot inspection on a vehicle that is not going through the online system?

I have it done regularly on cars it ensures I never have advisories on my mot certificates because any work required or advised is done before it gets mot done.

I've done this for years.

It's easy for someone to spout folk haven't got a clue on the internet but you seem to lack providing a good reason why you think it's not possible.
 
mfw said:
Pre mot certainly makes sense considering if it fails on an actual mot you can lose whatever mot is left - and you can drive it home or a place to get work done without flagging up as unroad-worthy vehicle - before anyone says it is unsafe you could of waited for proper last minute mot and still been driving it on the road
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Exactly it also ensures you don't have advisories on your mot. Bevause you are aware of anything it might fail on before it's actually getting it's mot.

I do this at least a month before mot is due.
 
Wildbill said:
my frend who has mot exempt vehicles has his checked over by a mot garage annually in the event of there being anything wrong he usually get it fixed before taking it on the road.
it's scaring me how many old bangers are going around on the road with no mechanical checks every vehicle that has a potential to kill should have regulation including push bikes I have a big dent in my car Frome a twat who had no brakes
bill
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I remember being at vanfest ( big vw show at Malvern) years back and talking to a couple of lads in and old bay window t2 vw. They were from the isle of man which apparently doesn't have mot's there was no floor in the cab of their van lol you could see the chassis legs and the tarmac through it.
Absolutely mental

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I have to agree with Northernraider,
if it ain't logged on it CAN'T be classed as an MOT.... What would be the point
If it ain't logged on a computerised pass or fail receipt can't be issued
If it ain't logged on there is no computerised record on DVSA database.
There is no paper certificate today so nothing to manually falsify.

Why would DVSA/VOSA say you were doing an illegal MOT.
Even the equipment belongs to the garage, bought at their expense but approved by DVSA/VOSA so they couldn't say illegal use of government equipment.
I could understand this in the days of paper MOT's where the test could simply be abandoned and nobody would be any the wiser but not now its all computerised.
 
pappajohn said:
I have to agree with Northernraider,
if it ain't logged on it CAN'T be classed as an MOT.... What would be the point
If it ain't logged on a computerised pass or fail receipt can't be issued
If it ain't logged on there is no computerised record on DVSA database.
There is no paper certificate today so nothing to manually falsify.

Why would DVSA/VOSA say you were doing an illegal MOT.
Even the equipment belongs to the garage, bought at their expense but approved by DVSA/VOSA so they couldn't say illegal use of government equipment.
I could understand this in the days of paper MOT's where the test could simply be abandoned and nobody would be any the wiser but not now its all computerised.
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Exactly
 
pappajohn said:
I have to agree with Northernraider,
if it ain't logged on it CAN'T be classed as an MOT.... What would be the point
If it ain't logged on a computerised pass or fail receipt can't be issued
If it ain't logged on there is no computerised record on DVSA database.
There is no paper certificate today so nothing to manually falsify.

Why would DVSA/VOSA say you were doing an illegal MOT.
Even the equipment belongs to the garage, bought at their expense but approved by DVSA/VOSA so they couldn't say illegal use of government equipment.
I could understand this in the days of paper MOT's where the test could simply be abandoned and nobody would be any the wiser but not now its all computerised.
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And the ramp can be used for other work apart Frome MOT rolling road can be used for fault diagnoses setting up head lams doesn't only happen at MOT emissions and diagnostic
bill
 
Northernraider said:
Aye although it sounds like you have no idea yourself and just see in black and white.

Again answer the question just what has vosa got to do with any mechanic doing a pre mot inspection on a vehicle that is not going through the online system?

I have it done regularly on cars it ensures I never have advisories on my mot certificates because any work required or advised is done before it gets mot done.

I've done this for years.

It's easy for someone to spout folk haven't got a clue on the internet but you seem to lack providing a good reason why you think it's not possible.
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every year have this done
bill
 
gus-lopez said:
It should have been a requirement that it had to have an mot pass at 39 years to qualify for exemption at 40 years.
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I entirely agree with that as it would have been a very sensible addition to the legislation. Unfortunately. those in Government wanted to make it simple and quick with as few "extras" as possible.

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What do you all pay for this "Pre" Mot? it needs to be full mot price doesn't it? or it aint worth a garage doing it is it?
Oh I see you want me to carryout an Mot inspection type thingy and NOT report any faults I find and trust you to put it right later Now it becomes clearer
And Im the dodgy moT tester:LOL:
I sleep well at night
Were do i get the emissions details for your car Oh yes when i log on
Were do i get specific brake test requirements from oh yes when I log on
you,d think id remember them from last year or take a guess
If I say yes its all good does it then turn into ok you might as well print a ticket Not on your life
you would have to sit through a proper logged on test and pay again, you would here whats the point? other than messing with a vehicles true history by hiding previous failures
A good few on here have a very warped sense of the Mot test and is reasons for being like it is
all based on little or no experience or idea of consequences for getting it wrong
Your all crying out for two year tests and yet you seem happy to pay twice a year.

Pre Mot test dont make me laugh.
 
Geo said:
What do you all pay for this "Pre" Mot? it needs to be full mot price doesn't it? or it aint worth a garage doing it is it?
Oh I see you want me to carryout an Mot inspection type thingy and NOT report any faults I find and trust you to put it right later Now it becomes clearer
And Im the dodgy moT tester:LOL:
I sleep well at night
Were do i get the emissions details for your car Oh yes when i log on
Were do i get specific brake test requirements from oh yes when I log on
you,d think id remember them from last year or take a guess
If I say yes its all good does it then turn into ok you might as well print a ticket Not on your life
you would have to sit through a proper logged on test and pay again, you would here whats the point? other than messing with a vehicles true history by hiding previous failures
A good few on here have a very warped sense of the Mot test and is reasons for being like it is
all based on little or no experience or idea of consequences for getting it wrong
Your all crying out for two year tests and yet you seem happy to pay twice a year.

Pre Mot test dont make me laugh.
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Jees anger issues much.

I think a lie down is in order


Good mechanics don't seem to have a problem with it ..I'm glad I know a few.
 
Geo said:
What do you all pay for this "Pre" Mot? it needs to be full mot price doesn't it? or it aint worth a garage doing it is it?
Oh I see you want me to carryout an Mot inspection type thingy and NOT report any faults I find
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OK Geo.
I would quite happily pay the going rate if it avoids having a fail on my cars MOT record for something minor but it wouldn't be the MOT rate as it wouldn't be an MOT.
it would be the normal hourly rate... And only one hour at that as that's what my garage allow per MOT slot.

As for not reporting faults..... When you repair someone's vehicle and you see there is only one exhaust mount at the rear and the rest is held up by bits of twisted wire or you renew brake pads and notice the wheel bearings are shot, are you straight on the phone to DVSA/VOSA to report it or do you mention it to the owner?

Thats all we are referring to with a pre MOT... An inspection of MOT-able items to see what, if anything, needs attention.
 
Pre mot saves a fail which would incur a trailer cost at silly money to move home or a place to do the work so i dont see a problem at £30-£40 for a pre mot.

I dont see any advantage of paying for a trailer/transporter due to a failed mot

With people booking pre mot's it is their money and their choice especially on a 10yr or an older van
 
mfw said:
Pre mot saves a fail which would incur a trailer cost at silly money to move home or a place to do the work so i dont see a problem at £30-£40 for a pre mot.

I dont see any advantage of paying for a trailer/transporter due to a failed mot

With people booking pre mot's it is their money and their choice especially on a 10yr or an older van
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I pay £25 for my actual mot :)

Pre mot check and minor service usually about £50- 60 and I supply my own parts

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Geo said:
other than messing with a vehicles true history by hiding previous failures
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Repairing faults before test or repairing after... Just how is that altering its fault history... The faults are still repaired
What your saying really is don't fix anything until its failed its test then its OK to fix.
There's no logic in what your saying Geo.
 
Northernraider said:
Jees anger issues much.

I think a lie down is in order


Good mechanics don't seem to have a problem with it ..I'm glad I know a few.
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Stuck for answers attack the poster, same ole same ole your a psychologist now too :doh:
So your happy to pay Mechanics to "Pre" MoT your vehicles :Eeek:
Im going to bow out of this thread as Talking to folk who cant or wont understand a point in question is futile
If it make you feel better you are quite right even though every word posted confirms your total lack of Knowledge in your chosen subject
Try me on your trade and profession I might surprise you
 
pappajohn said:
Repairing faults before test or repairing after... Just how is that altering its fault history... The faults are still repaired
What your saying really is don't fix anything until its failed its test then its OK to fix.
There's no logic in what your saying Geo.
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Did you know That there is a VOSA preferance to MoT a vehicle before you service it
So that a vehicles history is not distorted (of course you didn't Most testers Dont either
 
Did you know 99% of people on here look at the MoT history before deciding to buy?
There will be no point soon, everything will have its history re mapped:Eeek:
 
Geo said:
Did you know That there is a VOSA preferance to MoT a vehicle before you service it
So that a vehicles history is not distorted (of course you didn't Most testers Dont either
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That's fine by me Geo.... We're back to bi-annual MOT's again.
Mine gets an official service every two years.... On mileage it isn't due its second service yet at 38000 miles and three years old.

And of course, a preference is nothing more than a wish.

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