Mobile WiFi choice

[Lenny HB]

We have the same system and would echo your comments, but add that it also will repeat an external wifi picking t up from the roof mounted aerial which also gets the cellular signal.

Only if you have a separate wifi router connected to the wif aerial side. The aerials with wifi have two pairs of leads one set connects to the mifi the other pair to an internet router.

 

[willstones]

I have had the Motorhome Wifi system for about 4 months and so far I’m less than impressed with it. I’ve found that if I leave the network speed on “Auto” then when in remote rural locations the data rate is awful. As soon as I manually choose 3G (as opposed to letting the device choose the network speed) the performance jumps up. The only reason I can think of is that on Auto when in poor coverage areas it is constantly jumping between network modes and therefore crippling the speed. Compare that to my phone where the connection is solid.

I’m seriously considering replacing the mobile router part to some higher quality piece of kit like the Teltonika Rutx09. I haven’t yet because others don’t seem to have a problem with this system so I’m “living with it” for now.

Just passing on my experience so far.

 

[Ken Hall]

Have you tried mobileonboard.com Their BEAM Xpressi. has 2.5 & 5GHz and GPS tracking to your mobile phone. £220 and £30 PA optional for the tracking. Unlocked SIM, 2 adhesive antenna included, but works very well with our roof mounted Motorhome wifi antenna £120 self fitted. Very good reception and stable signal. They are used in Dublin Buses, London Transport, Coastliner, etc backup is excellent.
Ken

 

[autorouter]

RUTX11

Teltonika routers, in particular the RUTX11, are serious heavy-duty industrial devices as fitted to inter-city coaches, chemical plants and remote industrial installations. As well as dual-sim auto-failover, they have a huge range of facilities already built-in, including geofencing, commercial hotspot software, and industrial IOT control languages like MODbus, MQTT, and other connection buses. For example, Victron stuff can be controlled by MODbus. It can send/receive text/email status and control messages. This device will feed your geek addiction, so be warned...

 

[82125]

You need to select a product to see the price. Not all products are available for on-line purchase.

Hi TheCaller, i did. Went through the 3 steps selecting the kit i wanted, no price at the end. Also tried just viewing products individually.
They did however respond quickly via email when i asked, still seems odd as many would just go elsewhere if you have to ask for prices i think.
Im still waiting to hear if it has a LAN port (which i suspect it doesnt given its slim size).

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[Sapper520]

This is our system…….3 clicks on their website.

 

[82125]

3 clicks on their website and I had chosen a system, and got the price.

Another click or two who find me a local installer. Technical specifications easy to find as well.

I have no connect to the company, other than buying one of their systems.

maybe its a browser issue then, below is what i get after the 3 clicks.
Anyway, for anyone interested its £899 for the 5G and £450 for 4G (plus £100 fitting typically)

 

[Brains]

Just had a look on their website, thanks for the link.
Why do they not show their prices though? Rather odd to offer products for sale without a price (makes me think theres a "silly enough to pay it price" and "a real price for those that know")?

Also, can you tell me if the Motorhome WiFi has a LAN network port on it please (their website really is pretty useless for both info and prices).
I'm thinking of going with a Netgear M2 from what ive seen so far.

Give them a call !
They are a small company and very well informed.

 

[Beryl]

maybe its a browser issue then, below is what i get after the 3 clicks.
Anyway, for anyone interested its £899 for the 5G and £450 for 4G (plus £100 fitting typically)

I get the following prices from the website (without fitting)

4G Smart Compact £299.99
4G Smart Flex £349.99

Fitting for us was £100, done on Monday last.

So £450 for the 4G Smart Flex including fitting.

 

[Cobra]

I installed the maxview system
Amazon product ASIN B084ZYWXJT

One of the main things was the ability to connect to an available wifi network as well as use the 3/4g network
With this, we automatically connect to the home wifi when parked on the drive (the day before we go anywhere) so we can do any network/satnav updates
I’m also looking at putting an extra Pi server to store some videos - this will be updated when connected to the home wifi

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[Raul]

Dear funsters, I appreciate all your input, and I’m very great-full of your suggestions. Special thanks for the mentioning of teltonica rutx11 and the poynting mimo v3. Also the link to netxl was very helpful. Otherwise I would have not known about them.
I have phoned netxl with my requirements, and they asked to drop a email to them with what I need. They came back with a fantastic bundle deal at £404 delivered next day for the rutx11 coupled with poynting mimo 3 v2-15. This would of cost me £500 plus if I clicked without asking for a bundle price. Very happy bunny.

 

[MisterB]

M2 is a great choice but we also have motorhome WiFi as it gives us extra in some places where we can puffy back off free WiFi AND share the signal

 

[BDM]

Dear funsters, I appreciate all your input, and I’m very great-full of your suggestions. Special thanks for the mentioning of teltonica rutx11 and the poynting mimo v3. Also the link to netxl was very helpful. Otherwise I would have not known about them.
I have phoned netxl with my requirements, and they asked to drop a email to them with what I need. They came back with a fantastic bundle deal at £404 delivered next day for the rutx11 coupled with poynting mimo 3 v2-15. This would of cost me £500 plus if I clicked without asking for a bundle price. Very happy bunny.

I thought you might be tempted...

 

[Raul]

Fitting it today the mimo and the rutx11. I have done a bench test before fitting with the iPhone and the rux11 with the mimo antenna on the table. The phone could not get a speed test after 3 attempts. The rutx11 coupled to the mimo, got 3bar signal on 4g and 5mbps on okla test. We are on a hilly village with no mast in site. They are around within 10 miles, 2 that I know of, but they are well over the hills. On the move with the mimo on the van roof should be better. I will take photos and post after finishing the installation my results, and how I installed it.

 

[Raul]

I have completed the installation, the hardest and most time consuming was routing cable through cupboard, empty, remove shelves for access etc. Took me a embarrassing whole day, but I’m happy with the install. One thing I will change in future is the power supply to the router. At the moment it’s powered via inverter, using the supplied 230v plug. I could cut this and splice it in a 12v supply near by, but haven’t done yet. I had drilled a hole for the antenna spigot, the step drill you need is 22mm. Mine was 20mm, had to use a rotary grinder to enlarge it. Also the 60mm spigot was to short for my roof. My insulation is at least 90mm. So I had to cut a larger 60mm hole in the ceiling to get the plastic nut on the spigot. I have cut a 1/2” ply backing plate for the underside, glued in place using the spare spigot as a guide in the hole. I prepped the antenna by sticking the foam pad and under rubber I smeared a bit of CT1. Then applied a good bead of CT1 around the spigot, before stuck to the roof. Inside I managed to get the nut in by fingers, and long nose pliers to fully tighten it up. After that, I used some white gaffa tape over the hole, before I glued some conduit for the cable. It’s inside the cupboard and it can’t be seen with the door open. I have made use of the whole mimo cable, by routing it in the cupboards from back to middle of the van. The router comes with no fixings. I used 4 kitchen cabinet L brackets, grounded a bit down to fit. Just removed the side screws one at the time, and put the brackets in. Then screwed the brackets to the cupboard. I left enough space either side for future access to sim slots, lan sockets, cables etc. The Ethernet cable feeds the raspberry pi.
Speed test: I got a local sim €6 euro prepay with 100gb on orange network, in the rutx11. I will get one on Vodafone as a second sim. My mobile is on UK sim, roaming on same orange network. I did a speed test with the iPad on the mimo, got 18,9mbps. With the phone in the same location but inside the van could not get a test. After several attempts, outside the van got a best 1,73mbps on the phone. That’s over 10 times slower than the mimo. Note the van is backed in front of the garage, with the terrace roof, house sheltering and obstructing signal. Despite all this, the mimo on the van roof picks up a good signal.
The cost was 415 pounds delivered next day from netxl, and one day to install in my case. The results are fantastic, the router is truly industrial grade cat6 LTE, packed with features, and one I will use next is WiFi over wan. You can pick WiFi signal from quite far away, and create your own secure access point. Power consumption with one Ethernet connected and one sim on 4g streaming is about 14w on battery monitor. When no activity or low traffic, it’s about 10w. This consumption should take care of lithium float.
I hope this is of use to others that wish to go with this choice, and if you like to know more, just ask. When on the move I will get back and post some speed tests, as I will get a better and fair position to masts.

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[Raul]

Just did a test in the fields, 46mbps

 

[autorouter]

One thing I will change in future is the power supply to the router. At the moment it’s powered via inverter, using the supplied 230v plug. I could cut this and splice it in a 12v supply near by, but haven’t done yet.

The router comes with no fixings. I used 4 kitchen cabinet L brackets, grounded a bit down to fit.

Fixing brackets are available, they slide into the slots on the side of the router. Also a suitable power lead is available, with either a cigarette-lighter plug on the end, or a 4-way terminal block. Obviously two of the wires are positive and negative 12V. The other two are a digital input and a digital output, which can be ignored, but which you might find useful. I tried to find the links for them, think I got them from Solwise.

Solwise - Sundries for Teltonika Routers | Solwise Ltd

www.solwise.co.uk

 

[Andacami]

Found the get a free month code: https://i.smarty.co.uk/IrDQYix

 

[Lenny HB]

Well done, I think you make hard work of mounting the MIMO. I removed the sticky pad and fixed it with Sika didn't bother about trying to get a nut on the spigot.

 

[Raul]

Well done, I think you make hard work of mounting the MIMO. I removed the sticky pad and fixed it with Sika didn't bother about trying to get a nut on the spigot.

I was in two minds, stick it all with glue, or just around the spigot. I’m often on country bumpy roads and winters with minus 20. A mechanical fix with only partial glue is more reliable for harsh environments, and easier to remove in the future. It was difficult to get the nut in but doable.

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[RGCH999]

We had the Motorhome WiFi 4g flex fitted yesterday - I had it fitted professionally due to crippling incompetence.

The mobile installers took just under an hour, really neat job and they set everything up and checked it before they left.

I can’t comment on performance on site, but it’s on the far side of the drive and I can connect to it from the back of the house, so the router has good WiFi range. Speedtest shows a solid 30mbps download, 15 upload.

I started with the unlimited Smarty sim that came with it £18 per month, we’ll change if it looks like we’re not getting good coverage or value for money.

I do all my work remotely anyway, so I’m thinking work from the van!

Looking to have mine fitted by the installers. Do they wire into 12 v feed direct or do they install a separate on/off switch as well.

 

[Beryl]

Looking to have mine fitted by the installers. Do they wire into 12 v feed direct or do they install a separate on/off switch as well.

In ours they wired it into the 12v that feeds the TV aerial booster (in the same cupboard) - in-line fuse but no switch apart from the one on the router itself. So when you switch on the 12v in the van, the router boots up.

 

[RGCH999]

thanks