Milk

[Moodybrook]

Just shown all your comments to a couple of our UK dairy farmers. I work in the agric industry. They are appalled and realise the uphill struggle they have to rewin back the loyalty of the home delivered pinta, or even the supermarket collected products.
We certainly struggled to find frische,frais or whatever they called it but Jock may have the answer as we mostly were looking for it late pm once we had settled in.
Thank you for all your comments, certainly opened my eyes.

 

[John & Joan]

We eat cheese but find that supermarkets abroad only have the odd British cheese (usually one brand of Cheddar) yet stock loads of cheese types from other countries. Decent cream is impossible to get. What is sold abroad as cream is UHT no more than milk in my opinion and when beaten it just froths up, not thicken. Thick/Double cream is unknown. Where these dairy products are stocked they are usually in a fixture dedicated to UK products aimed at expats and not in the general dairy isles where the other counties products are displayed. To me there is a great market for milk products to be exported. The UK producers needs to think outside the box and not just on liquid milk sales within the UK. I did find one small UK brands supermarket in Campersol that was selling fresh British double cream (Scottish if I remember) at Christmas, so it can be done. British Ice Cream (not the brands of factory made, but real farm) is something that could also be exported. The same goes for bacon rashers abroad.

 

[Forestboy]

Cor what a Namby Pamby bunch you lot are just drink whatever the locals drink if it's good enough for them its good enough for you.
God help ya if you ever venture out of Europe.

 

[Cobweb]

Cor what a Namby Pamby bunch you lot are just drink whatever the locals drink if it's good enough for them its good enough for you.
God help ya if you ever venture out of Europe.

LOL .... We have not had a problem finding fresh milk in Germany but to be honest after years of living on boats when we have used UHT milk called Parmalat we think that the ones we can buy in France and the continent are great ! The only disappointment is not having real cream in the cakes mostly in France . I have just had the most amazing Black Forest gateau with real cream accompanied by a lovely cup of tea made with fresh German milk . It is as good as it gets !

 

[gus-lopez]

I did find one small UK brands supermarket in Campersol .

Campasol IS the UK.

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[Moodybrook]

Milk, the most over-rated product of our times. Good quality tea with no milk, orange juice on your breakfast cereal. We only use a fraction of the milk we used too.

Jim, you disappoint me, surely science expounds milk as one of the best health foods.(apart from those with allergies) It's usage has waned as affluence has influenced the choice of foods that supermarkets stock and the milky puddings that grew a nation after the wars has been replaced with " ready meals" and housewifes who go out to work have by and large given up cooking.

The misinformed fears of high fats of dairy products have pushed many towards sugary drinks. A recent poll of shoppers averaged the fat content of whole milk as being 40% fat whereas full fat milk is usually sold at 3.5 - 4.0 % .

Anyway some ideas have evolved from the thread,

 

[Chockswahay]

I have just had the most amazing Black Forest gateau

Black Forest Gateau!...................http://wolfyitaly.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/e38-triberg-1516-may.html

 

[Irishrover]

Lads....There is NO substitute for REAL full fat milk, REAL butter or REAL fresh cream. Soy milks??? and uht stuff is, in my view.....disgusting slop. My biggest bugbear is seeing " Fresh Cream " being squirted out of a spray can....just synthetic sugary slop.

There....Got that off my chest!!!

 

[pappajohn]

Have you any idea what part of the cow milk comes from?

Same place as humans....and babies seem to thrive on it without problems.

Cows tits are wiped before being milked

 

[Irishrover]

Same place as humans....and babies seem to thrive on it without problems.

Yes indeed, Natures most COMPLETE food.

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[Jim]

urely science expounds milk as one of the best health foods.

I grew up drinking non pasteurised goat and cows milk and used to love the stuff, but what we get now is just a dead liquid its not milk as it was. As for the science, on the contrary, I thought science has shown than most of the worlds population are lactose intolerant. There are plenty of studies that show how wonderful or awful milk is. But as with all food studies it seems every new one comes to different conclusions. But the latest theories on milk are not good Plenty believe its bad for our bones rather than good. And experts can't really agree I think cows milk is fantastic if you are a baby cow, but not quite as good as we were lead to believe when trying to force down that warm third of a pint at school.

 

[MikeandCarolyn]

We eat cheese but find that supermarkets abroad only have the odd British cheese (usually one brand of Cheddar) yet stock loads of cheese types from other countries. something that could also be exported. The same goes for bacon rashers abroad.

We too eat and love cheese-I'm sorry to disappoint you,but,Cheddar is not the be all and end all of cheese When it's good it's excellent,but there are so many cheeses to try and enjoy. Never mind the supermarkets,try some local markets selling locally produced cheeses.

 

[plumbomb]

Please tell me I can get milk in Germany, we're doing the Mosel river next month. I drink copious amounts of tea with milk it's the only thing I won't (or can't) give up for lent or any other time.i once walked of a well paid site because site manager moaned about drinking tea on the job ( I had a flask so I like a cupper while I work but it seemed OK for those that smoked to walk OFF site to have a fag.

 

[Puddleduck]

We checked the packet and that contained a lot of sugar. When you check the packets its amazing just how much sugar and salt are added to our foods these days.

Refined sugar has a lot of health problems to answer for..... I include corn syrup in the refined sugar section.

 

[buttons]

Bit of useless information. Have you ever wondered how they keep a measured amount of cream in each milk product. A friend of mine was an engineer in a milk production line. I'm told that by using heat and chemical separation every trace of cream is removed from the fresh milk so they are left with a watery liquid substance. The cream is then added back in a measured amount giving what it says on the label.

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[JockandRita]

but not quite as good as we were lead to believe when trying to force down that warm third of a pint at school.

Good grief Jim, that's taken me back to my bprimary school days back in the 60s. I hated drinking warm milk, but loved it in the colder weather.
I never aspired to the dizzy heights of "milk monitor".

Please tell me I can get milk in Germany, we're doing the Mosel river next month.

Please see my earlier post today, re Frisch Milch.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Moodybrook]

I can get milk in Germany

Shop early in the day, they don't stock a lot, if you have a decent size freezer - freeze some down before you go. It comes in paper Tetrapacks and the "Frische" (fresh) looks like the foul UHT, be careful which one you pick up. Think about some dried milk powder to reconstutute in an emergency. We once went three days without a decent cuppa, Torture !

You'll love the Mosel (Moselle) valley, and the wine! Reisling "Halbetrocken"(semi dry) lurvelly stuff.

 

[mariner]

We too eat and love cheese-I'm sorry to disappoint you,but,Cheddar is not the be all and end all of cheese

You are right, the best is Lincolnshire Poacher, but Extra Mature Cheddar is a good second.
If the first taste, doesn't make your eyes water, then it ain't proper cheese.

The French produce slime, the Dutch produce rubber, and the Spanish produce tasteless rubber.
They all call it cheese but it just ain't the proper stuff.

 

[Cobweb]

You are right, the best is Lincolnshire Poacher, but Extra Mature Cheddar is a good second.
If the first taste, doesn't make your eyes water, then it ain't proper cheese.

The French produce slime, the Dutch produce rubber, and the Spanish produce tasteless rubber.
They all call it cheese but it just ain't the proper stuff.

You Cannot be serious!!!!

 

[mjltigger]

Our milk is pastuerised, standardised, homogenised YUCK.

I like milkman milk from the old days that had a different flavour and fat content at different times of the year and that you had to shake to get the cream mixed back in..

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[gus-lopez]

[QUOTE="Jim, post: 1431324, member: 1" when trying to force down that warm third of a pint at school. [/QUOTE]

No , apart from tea/coffee ,warm anything isn't on.
Everything I drink be water ,milk, coke etc; has to be very cold , summer or winter.

 

[JJ]

You would have difficulty identifying long life fully slimmed milk in cartons from fresh skimmed milk. Put it in the fridge before you open it and it drinks like fresh milk. The rest will keep for months unopened. I prefer Asda's but they are all ok.

It is not often I disagree with a post as much as I do with this one.

"Drinks like fresh milk" ???????????

No it DOESN'T.

UHT = Utterly HORRIBLE Taste.

JJ

 

[MikeandCarolyn]

The French produce slime, the Dutch produce rubber, and the Spanish produce tasteless rubber.
They all call it cheese but it just ain't the proper stuff.

Oh dear,I'd better not respond-I may break a Rule

 

[buttons]

It is not often I disagree with a post as much as I do with this one.

"Drinks like fresh milk" ???????????

No it DOESN'T.

UHT = Utterly HORRIBLE Taste.

JJ

Utterly HORRIBLE Taste indeed.......Could I refer you to my kids who were brung up on skimmed uht milk. They will drink nothing else. Chilled fully skimmed is the business.

 

[jemhorn]

We drink fresh skimmed milk here but when away take lots of skimmed UHT from Morrisons, job to tell the difference.

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[Cobweb]

Here on the Mosel just 7km south from Cochem we are desperately in need of a supermarket where we can park a 7.2 metre van just to pick up fresh milk as well as lots of other stuff . So far everything has been very small Penny , Lidle and Aldi kind of shop with very limited parking spaces . That is definitely where France does better with huge hypermarkets and plenty of parking . Will propably consult Mrs T (our Tom Tom ) and see whether she knows where we should head for supplies .

 

[JJ]

Utterly HORRIBLE Taste indeed.......Could I refer you to my kids who were brung up on skimmed uht milk. They will drink nothing else. Chilled fully skimmed is the business.

Your poor, suffering children.

Do they know about Childline?

JJ

 

[mariner]

Here on the Mosel just 7km south from Cochem we are desperately in need of a supermarket where we can park a 7.2 metre van just to pick up fresh milk as well as lots of other stuff . So far everything has been very small Penny , Lidle and Aldi kind of shop with very limited parking spaces . That is definitely where France does better with huge hypermarkets and plenty of parking . Will propably consult Mrs T (our Tom Tom ) and see whether she knows where we should head for supplies .

There is a Rewe on Markweg.

 

[Chockswahay]

Lidl Germany usually stock fresh milk, 2 weeks ago they had the best price ....... 51 cents for a litre

We found fresh milk nearly always available in every supermarket, you just have to look a little harder sometimes though

 

[mariner]

You Cannot be serious!!!!

I most certainly can!

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