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[jongood]

So how does the box know if you are splitting up or down

A 2 position rocker switch

 

[jongood]

It’s usually via a lever on the gearstick, on the early F10/12’s it was on the dash and the range change on the lever, then around 84/85ish they did the 12 speed with both on the gearstick, I know nothing about the merc set ups.
On the old 80’s Daf 2300 8 speed the range change you would come from 4th into neutral then a sharp jab to the left via an air switch then into 1st again which would be fifth, so in effect it had like an air gate in neutral to push through up or down the range. I believe the bigger 2800/3300 had options of splitters as well, so 16 speed was all the range back then
It’s all done by magic Martin funflair
I probably haven’t explained it very well jongood and JockandRita would explain it better as they have had far more hours in them

Ive never seen a Daf with them ( but only really used to drive 95's - a classic example of a truck that was brilliant with a clutch pedal and crap without it). We used to call them slap changes because thats what you did, used a lot in Atego units and Renaults prior to "autos".

 

[jongood]

Just in the interest of frying Martins brain a bit more: - the early TGL's used to have a button clutch, also on the stick, so apart from setting off you could hold the clutch down with your thumb while you selected the gear of choice, im sure AndyVW will remember them with fondness

 

[Badknee]

Loved mine, RR engine with an Eaton box.

 

[pj650]

Ive never seen a Daf with them ( but only really used to drive 95's - a classic example of a truck that was brilliant with a clutch pedal and crap without it). We used to call them slap changes because thats what you did, used a lot in Atego units and Renaults prior to "autos".

In the mid nineties as an owner driver I had a
Daf 95 with the 16 speed box. Both the range change and the splitter were on the gear lever.
Way better than the “slap through” shift.

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[WESTY66]

Never heard the term “slap through” for the old Dafs, but it’s a perfect description

 

[JockandRita]

Ive never seen a Daf with them ( but only really used to drive 95's - a classic example of a truck that was brilliant with a clutch pedal and crap without it). We used to call them slap changes because thats what you did, used a lot in Atego units and Renaults prior to "autos".

Re the Renaults, I used to drive Renault Premiums when they replaced the lease hire Scania 113Ms, and in the three days, I'd develop a sort of "tennis elbow" due to overcoming the spring gate from low to high ratio. I'd go back to my Fire Service job for four days driving, (all Allison auto boxes), and my "tennis elbow" would clear up. Back on the Premiums, it would re-appear after the first day. I never experienced that in any other manual box with a spring gate. Fortunately, the Premiums didn't last long, and we went back to Scanias, but the 114M I never experienced the same problem with the Renault Magnum gear changes.

Just in the interest of frying Martins brain a bit more: - the early TGL's used to have a button clutch, also on the stick, so apart from setting off you could hold the clutch down with your thumb while you selected the gear of choice, im sure AndyVW will remember them with fondness

I really liked the MAN TGA "Comfort Shift" Jon. It was a treat to drive, ie, maintaining the manual shift without the need to use the clutch pedal, except to drive off or stop. I also quite liked the Mercedes EPS Power Shift, which again was a simplified manual gear change, without the use of a clutch pedal.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Jon Stewart]

I’m with jock on this, rather a manual any day, an old Volvo16 speed is a joy to drive (the short time I used one, off road of course) the old 1980’s foden S80’s and Haulmasters 12 speed was a pig and the old Magirus Deutz bonneted 6 wheel tipper was a bugger to get in any gear (all off road driving on colliery sites or power stations back in the day you didn’t need a HGV licence to drive a stocking lorry)

Yes I was always (and still am) a wannabe trucker but failed the medical at 21

Here's a movie for you, I always liked. Bit before your time (and mine).

Hell Drivers (1957) ⭐ 7.2 | Crime, Drama, Film-Noir

1h 48m | PG

www.imdb.com

 

[JockandRita]

Here's a movie for you, I always liked. Bit before your time (and mine).

Hell Drivers (1957) ⭐ 7.2 | Crime, Drama, Film-Noir

1h 48m | PG

www.imdb.com

I remember seeing that as a young lad. Wasn't it Stanley Baker, and wasn't it about quarry tipper drivers?

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[TinaLes]

I am sittin ere munchin on a sausage roll whilst reading all you guys marvellous memories of driving16/12 gear trucks with high/low splitter gearboxes, just wishing we were down the pub so I could witness your emotional faces in giving your memories of trucks good & bad and envying every moment ...yea its my round I'll get em in
Have you guys ever craved to drive one of those Big American Macks, Peterbilt or Kenworth's? Maybe you have?
Thats one reason I liked watching the likes of Ice Road Truckers on TV, plus a couple of decent films, one with Liam Neeson at the helm called Ice Road.
The Tractor units seem to not only have really long bonnets Hoods, covered with bright chrome features and high exhausts, and some are extreme in length also without the trailer in tow, which I guess would not be very practical over here or in Europe, but lovely works of art none the less.
Just like those extremely Long Road Trains they drive all day over in Aus at mind blowing speeds...also impressive, but dangerous in some bad weather conditions.
Cant imagine how an American driver would react to driving one of ours with a flat front, and much less road room in places.
I quite fancy a Guinness now, not had one in years.
Keep on trucking guys, lovin every minute.
Les

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[TinaLes]

I remember seeing that as a young lad. Wasn't it Stanley Baker, and wasn't it about quarry tipper drivers?

Cheers,

Jock.

Yea great film, Stanley Baker was the hard man making all the other drivers on peace work, get out the way or else he would run them off the road.
Les

 

[JockandRita]

Cant imagine how an American driver would react to driving one of ours with a flat front, and much less road room in places.

He/she might feel more at home in one of these Les.

Unfortunately, I've not had the pleasure myself.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Jon Stewart]

I remember seeing that as a young lad. Wasn't it Stanley Baker, and wasn't it about quarry tipper drivers?

Cheers,

Jock.

Good memory! Yep!

 

[Badknee]

The Yanks have the “flat fronts” they call them “cab overs”
The reason they don’t like them is the shorter the unit the less weight they can have.

Cabover trucks, also known as cab-over-engine (COE) trucks, were once a common sight in the US, but are now rarely seen due to a shift in regulations and driver preferences. These trucks feature a flat front, with the cab positioned directly above the engine, unlike conventional trucks with a long hood. While they offered advantages like increased cargo space within length restrictions and improved maneuverability in tight spaces, they also had drawbacks in terms of comfort and safety, particularly in longer-haul applications.

 

[JockandRita]

Good memory! Yep!

Thanks. Isn't it strange though, that I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday morning?

Cheers,

Jock.

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[funflair]

Just in the interest of frying Martins brain a bit more: - the early TGL's used to have a button clutch, also on the stick, so apart from setting off you could hold the clutch down with your thumb while you selected the gear of choice, im sure AndyVW will remember them with fondness

Watched a video about that as well, years ago Mercedes did a A class with something similar, clutch to start and stop but otherwise just shift and it declutched when you touched the gear lever, I drove one of those.