Lithium battery warning ELECTRIC BIKES

[funflair]

They certainly will when they can get through.

I am sure they will want to inspect the remains of the battery and they can have my pictures if they want although they might have already if they have been onto this thread.

Martin

Edit actually this is Andy’s thread, my pictures are on another thread.

 

[jezport]

Checked mine, they are lithium ion

 

[Robert Clark]

They certainly will when they can get through.

I am sure they will want to inspect the remains of the battery and they can have my pictures if they want although they might have already if they have been onto this thread.

Martin

Edit actually this is Andy’s thread, my pictures are on another thread.

Maybe if the posted a pic and review on their Google Places Page asking for help they’d get a fast response

 

[funflair]

Checked mine, they are lithium ion

Is that better or worse than lithium ion polymer?

Martin

 

[jezport]

Is that better or worse than lithium ion polymer?

Martin

Lithium ion are safer than Lithium polymer

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[funflair]

Maybe if the posted a pic and review on their Google Places Page asking for help they’d get a fast response

Not that techy which is why I posted on here for them?

 

[Robert Clark]

Id also suggest leaving a negative review of trust pilot
They seem to respond very quickly to them

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[funflair]

Lithium ion are safer than Lithium polymer

Are you sure, OK I know the title is smartphone but same technology think.

Which type of battery for smartphone is better: Li-Ion or Li-Po?

Answer (1 of 6): The debate is still on-going, about the working / cost efficiencies of both. As of now; this will continue ? Lithium Ion vs. Lithium Polymer Batteries – Which Is Better? - RAVPower Hope this helps, have a better day !

www.quora.com

 

[funflair]

Id also suggest leaving a negative review of trust pilot
They seem to respond very quickly to them

Volt Electric Bikes is rated "Excellent" with 4.7 / 5 on Trustpilot

Do you agree with Volt Electric Bikes's TrustScore? Voice your opinion today and hear what 1,411 customers have already said.

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He is going to be fair and approach them directly not through social media.

Martin

 

[TinaLes]

Have I got it entirely wrong?Did I not read or get advice from somewhere that to keep our E Bike batteries performing at their best and outlast the 2 year warranty, or even get near the 500 charge cycles, that should ideally be charged even when being stored at least once a month?(no mention of not below 50%)
Thats what I have been doing, and they get 100% charge before I disconnect the chargers.
I didn't get any advice to the contrary from the e bike suppliers either.
No mention of fire risk, how to store them other than turn off the using the key.

So now I learn that what I have been doing is wrong and dangerous maybe, as they are stored over 50%, no mention of reduction in lifespan, how long or short they will last, and at the cost of them, there should be more comprehensive advice along with a potential fire risk warning....or would that be like in the mobile phone incident, too much like putting their hands up and admitting they are dangerous.
Litigation claims or what?
Wish Old Mo Did Bike Batteries, form a Que or what!, reliable, last for ever, extra special lifetime warranty as well!
Les

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[rb62]

Have I got it entirely wrong?Did I not read or get advice from somewhere that to keep our E Bike batteries performing at their best and outlast the 2 year warranty, or even get near the 500 charge cycles, that should ideally be charged even when being stored at least once a month?(no mention of not below 50%)
Thats what I have been doing, and they get 100% charge before I disconnect the chargers.
I didn't get any advice to the contrary from the e bike suppliers either.
No mention of fire risk, how to store them other than turn off the using the key.
Les

The stickers on the batteries of our AS bikes tell us to do exactly that

 

[Drifter]

I’ve got a volt Bigfoot and was told not to let battery get or stay too flat, Charge after use and charge again if not used for over a month or two
That looks scary,wouldn’t fancy that happening directly below my arse and other vital equipment ?

 

[Pausim]

Checked mine, they are lithium ion

Lithium ion is a generic name for all lithium batteries and includes all the types listed earlier by Gromett . An ion is an electrically charged atom or molecule and applies to lead acid batteries as well, Mr Faraday was talking about them in 1834. Ion and iron sometimes get confused.

 

[Pausim]

Is that better or worse than lithium ion polymer?

Martin

Lithium ion (Li) and lithium polymer (LiPo) are both abbreviations of the same generic description, lithium-ion polymer. Neither give any indication of which type of lithium cell is being used.

 

[Gromett]

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[funflair]

Lithium ion (Li) and lithium polymer (LiPo) are both abbreviations of the same generic description, lithium-ion polymer. Neither give any indication of which type of lithium cell is being used.

Except that my previous link suggests some difference Lithium ion being liquid and lithium ion polymer being a gel so a bit like lead acid vs Gel, it also suggests that polymer is more stable and more expensive.

Martin

 

[Pausim]

Except that my previous link suggests some difference Lithium ion being liquid and lithium ion polymer being a gel so a bit like lead acid vs Gel, it also suggests that polymer is more stable and more expensive.

Martin

Fair enough, your definition is somewhat different to the one I found. Perhaps the more important point is that neither seems to define the chemistry used in the battery.

 

[Plumber-Jim]

Update on battery fire.
I have today spoken to James, one of the directors of Volt bikes, who like everyone else is very concerned about this incident. He tells me that the battery cencerned was of an old type now no longer used and all new bikes use Panasonic units. In fairness to Volt on seeing the posts on the fun website they tried to contact me via information from the invoice from the supplier. We have now come to a suitable arrangement and volt will come up with a statement on the incident in due course. A plus point is they are proposing a favourable trade in for upgrading old battery’s for the latest type.
Jim.

 

[Robert Clark]

Update on battery fire.
I have today spoken to James, one of the directors of Volt bikes, who like everyone else is very concerned about this incident. He tells me that the battery cencerned was of an old type now no longer used and all new bikes use Panasonic units. In fairness to Volt on seeing the posts on the fun website they tried to contact me via information from the invoice from the supplier. We have now come to a suitable arrangement and volt will come up with a statement on the incident in due course. A plus point is they are proposing a favourable trade in for upgrading old battery’s for the latest type.
Jim.

Surely if there is a risk of the ‘old’ Volt batteries catching fire they should offer all owners free replacements?

 

[Pausim]

Having taken another look at the pictures I am wondering if the fire started in the wiring at the bottom of the battery. I used to have a very similar looking battery on my Freego e bike and the main power connections were all at the bottom of the battery, where it took the most banging as you removed and replaced it. I had a wiring fault on the locking switch at the top of my battery which was fortunately repaired before it shorted out.
Any battery whether Li or Lead Acid has the potential to start a fire, there is a lot of energy stored in them. Perhaps it was an electrical fire not a chemical one that started in the cells? I will be interested in the report back from Volt Batteries.

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[Techno]

Smoke started at the top not the bottom
The bottom is burned through after the cells flared

 

[Pausim]

Smoke started at the top not the bottom
The bottom is burned through after the cells flared

OK, I was just going by the pictures where the bottom looked more burned out than the top.

 

[funflair]

Smoke started at the top not the bottom
The bottom is burned through after the cells flared

The heat and scorching is around the bottom when it first came out of the van Andy, yes some smoke was coming out the top but I would think it started at the bottom and it certainly flared from the bottom cover.

Oops forgot photo

This is just after it came out of the van.

Martin