Levellers false reading.

[peterc10]

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Ah now then Paul ....... your post that I quoted compared horizontal roofline with van roof, not the vertical bars on the windows with the vertical side of the van

 

[pappajohn]

Look at the roof line of Shifzz van compared to the roof line of the half blue building behind and now tell me that Siftzz van is level.

Who says the building is at 90° to the van.
The white van in the distance appears even further off level the other way judging by the black pole.

 

[Two on Tour]

Ah now then Paul ....... your post that I quoted compared horizontal roofline with van roof, not the vertical bars on the windows with the vertical side of the van

I was merely drawing your attention to yet another indicator that Shifzz's van is on the wonk Peter.

Shiftzz needs a plumb bob, gravity doesn't lie.

 

[Two on Tour]

Who says the building is at 90° to the van.

If the van was level and the rear corner was vertical then it would not matter what angle the van was to the building it would only be the parallax error of the camera that would come into play.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

... assuming it hasn't got subsidence and making him think his MH's out when it's the building ... and the tree!

It was that second shandy he had last night with his packet of crisps. Distorted his vision

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[peterc10]

parallax error of the camera that would come into play.

Now that is another matter. My father was a professional photographer who worked for the Ministry of Works, as it used to be called. In the 1970s he had to get a hand-made mahogany plate camera which could alter the both the vertical and horizontal planes of both the lens and the plate individually to solve the parallax problem. It is a work or art and it is now sitting in the display cabinet in our dining room.

 

[Gromett]

Hilarious thread.

To be honest I am not convinced the van is not level. On the other hand I am not convinced it is. Totally unclear from the picture as you can make an argument for both quite well.

 

[Gromett]

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It is not clear in that image/ The white bordering the black is not necessarily the van it may be the edge of the window?
If you look at the gap along the top of the window to the frame it grows as it goes left as well.

On the full size image, the tall pole to the right is aligned perfectly within 2 pixel with the side of the van.

It is a puzzler

 

[TizzyOnTour]

Looking again at the image, if I'm not mistaken it is the free aire at Valdepenas. If so, that car park is very wonky

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Shiftzz needs a plumb bob Nurse to show him to his room gravity doesn't lie.

Corrected for you

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[Burgo]

On your phone or tablet just type "bubble level" into Google. Google will display one on the screen using your phones sensors.

How to Access Google's Built-In Bubble Level on Android

If you ever need to quickly check that something is level, you can do it with the built-in spirit level tool on your Android phone.

www.makeuseof.com

 

[pappajohn]

On the full size image, the tall pole to the right is aligned perfectly within 2 pixel with the side of the van.

My thoughts exactly in post #17.

Why would anyone place a permanent pole at an angle and that angle should exactly match the supposed lean on the van.
Then there's the vertical bars on the window perfectly aligned with the van.
Thats two permanent reference points agreeing.
An extremely slim chance of both points being out of plumb by the same degree.

 

[Gromett]

My thoughts exactly in post #17.

Why would anyone place a permanent pole at an angle and that angle should exactly match the supposed lean on the van.
Then there's the vertical bars on the window perfectly aligned with the van.
Thats two permanent reference points agreeing.
An extremely slim chance of both points being out of plumb by the same degree.

But... There are also argument against it.

The tough thing is we don't know enough about the geometry. Also the camera lens may be distorting things and we don't know which buildings were built by builders with a spirit level and the knowledge to use it.

It's a brilliant picture for creating a debate. I Love it.
Here is a picture that demonstrates some of the problems.

Is the church leaning? Are the lamposts on the left and right leaning?

Another shot of the church?

 

[peterc10]

But... There are also argument against it.

The tough thing is we don't know enough about the geometry. Also the camera lens may be distorting things and we don't know which buildings were built by builders with a spirit level and the knowledge to use it.

It's a brilliant picture for creating a debate. I Love it.
Here is a picture that demonstrates some of the problems.

Is the church leaning? Are the lamposts on the left and right leaning?

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Another shot of the church?

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Ah, the famous leaning tower of Sutton on Sea. Still not a UNESCO site yet

 

[Gooney]

Who cares, as long as your beer doesn’t slide off the table that’s good enough

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[cyberyacht]

He's probably calibrated it to line up with the UK sticker.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

But... There are also argument against it.

The tough thing is we don't know enough about the geometry. Also the camera lens may be distorting things and we don't know which buildings were built by builders with a spirit level and the knowledge to use it.

It's a brilliant picture for creating a debate. I Love it.
Here is a picture that demonstrates some of the problems.

Is the church leaning? Are the lamposts on the left and right leaning?

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Another shot of the church?

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Fish eye effect from wide angle lens and converging verticals in the second when looking up at a taller building

 

[Gromett]

Fish eye effect from wide angle lens and converging verticals in the second when looking up at a taller building

I know they are lens artifacts. I was giving an extreme example of why we can't trust the picture in the original post.