Is this type of "Gas it" fitment safe and legal on a Motorhome we are interested in.

[G-A-R-Y]

It's on a Hymer ML-T. Is there a flexible pipe going to bottles or tank.

 

[Lenny HB]

200 miles away.

If you really like the van don't let it put you off its easy enough to change.

 

[Spriddler]

Occasionally there really isn’t any other practical alternative other than fitting the filler point in the locker door .

That was possible with my filler but I only have one useable arm and have to use my good hand and knees to fit and lock-on the pump's heavy filler gun with its rather rigid/cumbersome hose, so fitting the filler low in the skirt would have made filling problematic (even though I had no problem fitting the refillable system in the door one-handed).

 

[PaulC70]

Any guesses why dealers love fitting the filler points in the locker door ?

Laziness?

 

[Fragle]

Although legal not something I wouldn't ever do, I think it's dangerous, even more so if it has a stainless steel hoses those are prone to failure with movement.

I would reposition the filler in the skirt and either leave the filler housing there or replace it with a vent.

Totally agree

Reposition is required. They should never have been allowed in the doors in the first place and just because it doesn't say you can't put it there doesn't mean it can go there.
Also it's so easy to put in the skirt on most vans

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[ChrisL]

Gaslow fitting and filling instructions including how to, and how not to fit the filler in the door.

 

[Tombola]

Catch 22...Will the odd time opening flex it too much, and can you change the pipe if it gets worn as its in plain sight....versus running it out and maybe under getting more "weathered" and road crud on it where you can't see it to replace.

 

[Lenny HB]

Catch 22...Will the odd time opening flex it too much, and can you change the pipe if it gets worn as its in plain sight....versus running it out and maybe under getting more "weathered" and road crud on it where you can't see it to replace.

If it's a ss pipe which door fitters seem to favor how can you tell its damaged the hose has an outer armor it's two layers.

 

[Tombola]

If it's a ss pipe which door fitters seem to favor how can you tell its damaged the hose has an outer armor it's two layers.

Not sure., that's for the owner fitter to decide., as everything we do to vans.

It's still catch 22, your van , your rules. Your risk...that's the problem.

 

[Basildog]

Not sure., that's for the owner fitter to decide., as everything we do to vans.

It's still catch 22, your van , your rules. Your risk...that's the problem.

That’s a ridiculous statement
How on earth can any owner possibly make an informed decision?
Then you have the problem that 99% of the professional installers are unlikely to have the relevant knowledge to make the correct decision,
The truth is there are very few people in the leisure industry with the relevant knowledge and the majority of them have a vested interest in not disclosing the truth
I have reported several different companies to trading standards .
The industry is a complete joke

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[Oldrat]

No need to move the filler cap just fit another filler on an adjacent panel
Yes you’ll have two filler caps but no unsightly hole.

OR
Fix a new filler to a fixed bracket inside the compartment. Job done

 

[Tombola]

That’s a ridiculous statement
How on earth can any owner possibly make an informed decision?
Then you have the problem that 99% of the professional installers are unlikely to have the relevant knowledge to make the correct decision,
The truth is there are very few people in the leisure industry with the relevant knowledge and the majority of them have a vested interest in not disclosing the truth
I have reported several different companies to trading standards .
The industry is a complete joke

Is it ? Tell me what is ridiculous about it.
From an experienced point of view maybe.
But most mh owners aren't experienced or qualified..
Just because you are " gas safe" reg.
Means nowt..to most mh owners.

 

[Mickey1]

Although legal not something I wouldn't ever do, I think it's dangerous, even more so if it has a stainless steel hoses those are prone to failure with movement.

I would reposition the filler in the skirt and either leave the filler housing there or replace it with a vent.

Lenny, mine has now been in for 7 years and I’m about to replace with truma duocontrol cs regulator with crash sensor , I was thinking of replacing the rubber pigtails with steel hoses until I read your post saying they are prone to failure with movement, maybe I should stay with a rubber hose that goes to the fill point.

 

[Minxy]

If you are concerned about the existing filler you can remove it and put a vent cover over the hole and fit a fill point in the skirt/bodywork instead using the much smaller square filler which requires a lot less space so easier to find a suitable location.

 

[Mickey1]

If you are concerned about the existing filler you can remove it and put a vent cover over the hole and fit a fill point in the skirt/bodywork instead using the much smaller square filler which requires a lot less space so easier to find a suitable location.

I’m not concerned about it being in the door, just that I was going to replace filler hose with steel instead of the rubber one which has been on 7 years.

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[Minxy]

I’m not concerned about it being in the door, just that I was going to replace filler hose with steel instead of the rubber one which has been on 7 years.

Sorry I should have been clearer, I was 'talking' to the OP.

 

[Lenny HB]

If you are concerned about the existing filler you can remove it and put a vent cover over the hole and fit a fill point in the skirt/bodywork instead using the much smaller square filler which requires a lot less space so easier to find a suitable location.

Wake up girl I said that days ago.

 

[Minxy]

Wake up girl I said that days ago.

I don't recall you mentioning the smaller filler.

 

[Derbyshire wanderer]

Legal or not, it looks like a bodge job.
No one would fit external 240v sockets, tv points or gas outlets like that so why do it with the filler?
Long term reliability is compromised.

 

[LaughingPlumber]

Legal or not, it looks like a bodge job.
No one would fit external 240v sockets, tv points or gas outlets like that so why do it with the filler?
Long term reliability is compromised.

Unless this ML-T is very different to mine, that is the garage door. The gas locker door is inside the garage and forward on the left. That means that the hose is going through 2 opening doors, which seems like a complete nonsense. Also, the gas locker seal is then (probably) compromised to the garage, which is NOT drained at low level to the outside. In that case, if I had come across this installation while still GasSafe registered I would have classified it as Immediateley Dangerous.

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[kingspeed]

Gaslow fitting and filling instructions including how to, and how not to fit the filler in the door.

Does it say anything about putting it in the middle. Good job your not OCD.

 

[Steve and Denise]

You may be better using hard copper with soldered joints

 

[Keypresser]

Don't be put off by all the posts. It is perfectly fine to have the filler on the door. Personally i would change the flexible hose every 5 years and if you are worried about all the posts on here (which i have not read) put the filler on the skirt and a blank on the door.

 

[VXman]

Unless this ML-T is very different to mine, that is the garage door. The gas locker door is inside the garage and forward on the left. That means that the hose is going through 2 opening doors, which seems like a complete nonsense. Also, the gas locker seal is then (probably) compromised to the garage, which is NOT drained at low level to the outside. In that case, if I had come across this installation while still GasSafe registered I would have classified it as Immediately Dangerous.

Don't think so - that looks like the the gas locker on the left and the garage door on the right. Very much like mine.

 

[tonyysue]

possibly legal, but dangerous as the pipe inside continually flexes and at some point will split. This allows liquid propane to spew out as you try to fill it and will immediately expand to a massive amount of gas

Had one on my van for 24 years - still in ‘as new’ condition!

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[Pablo19]

I hjave a door fitting on my Knaus, not by choice though. Mine has a thermoplastic hose connecting it but it does have a 90 degree elbow and the pipe hardly moves at all when I open/close the door and certainly doesn't put the connectors under any strain.. I keep an eye on it and make sure there is no leakage every time I fill up. I may get round to fitting a new filler in the skirt at some point.