Is this type of "Gas it" fitment safe and legal on a Motorhome we are interested in.

[G-A-R-Y]

It's on a Hymer ML-T. Is there a flexible pipe going to bottles or tank.

 

[Landy Andy]

Yes it is legal, and often done. It isn’t regarded as “good practice “ though as the pipe will keep getting flexed and moved. Ideally the fill point is mounted to a fixed point.

 

[TheBig1]

possibly legal, but dangerous as the pipe inside continually flexes and at some point will split. This allows liquid propane to spew out as you try to fill it and will immediately expand to a massive amount of gas

 

[Spriddler]

That's the same standard filler socket that I fitted for my Gaslow cylinders in the gas locker door of my m/h. Flexible s/s armoured hose from it to the cylinders (via a r/angled elbow as recommended in the Gaslow fitting instructions).

 

[mitzimad]

it should have an elbow on the inside if its straight its wrong

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[Jimbohorlicks]

It's not recommended by gaslow any more.( fill point in the door) Plus its best not to keep opening and closing the door especially straight after filling when the pipes are very cold and potentially brittle.
From where the fill pointvis it was most likely connected to bottles rather than a tank. Open the door and photo the inside.
The hoses are cheap enough ( circa £25 -30) and are easily replaced should you not know the history of when it was installed etc.

 

[chaser]

Why would you need to open it? But agree it might as well be in a fixed place.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

Why would you need to open it? But agree it might as well be in a fixed place.

To switch the bottles off when filling ( adviseable) and on again when using.

 

[Reallyretired]

Why would you need to open it? But agree it might as well be in a fixed place.

Ferry or tunnel. Some people like to turn off before driving.

 

[Lenny HB]

Why would you need to open it? But agree it might as well be in a fixed place.

To turn the bottle off and on, even if you have the regulator with the crash sensor and anti-rupture valves (need both to drive with the turned on) you still need to open the door to turn the bottles off when filling.

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[Phill D]

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[Lenny HB]

Although legal not something I wouldn't ever do, I think it's dangerous, even more so if it has a stainless steel hoses those are prone to failure with movement.

I would reposition the filler in the skirt and either leave the filler housing there or replace it with a vent.

 

[VXman]

To switch the bottles off when filling ( adviseable) and on again when using.

And driving unless you have a crash valve.

 

[Clivefog]

The filler hose is only used at filling a non return valve sits at the bottle end. Every time the door is opened check the filler hose.

 

[Lenny HB]

The filler hose is only used at filling a non return valve sits at the bottle end. Every time the door is opened check the filler hose.

But if there is a problem with the filler hose when filling it's a good way to blow up the petrol station.

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[G-A-R-Y]

So that flexible hose is only used when filling, just like the one in a petrol station. It's not pressurised all the time?

Just replace it for peace of mind, would it normally have two bottles and what capacity??

 

[Phill D]

So that flexible hose is only used when filling, just like the one in a petrol station. It's not pressurised all the time?

Just replace it for peace of mind, would it normally have two bottles and what capacity??

it only used during the filling period

on question 2 you need to open the door and look to answer that question

 

[Spriddler]

would it normally have two bottles and what capacity??

I assume you're asking on here as the m/h isn't conveniently near to you so best to phone the seller.

 

[HugoBNB]

That's the same standard filler socket that I fitted for my Gaslow cylinders in the gas locker door of my m/h. Flexible s/s armoured hose from it to the cylinders (via a r/angled elbow as recommended in the Gaslow fitting instructions).

Same as ours. We had it moved by the dealer and they stuck the filler in the locker door. I emailed Gaslow about it and they said it was fine as it had an elbow on the back of the filler.

 

[Basildog]

Same as ours. We had it moved by the dealer and they stuck the filler in the locker door. I emailed Gaslow about it and they said it was fine as it had an elbow on the back of the filler.

Any guesses why dealers love fitting the filler points in the locker door ?

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[TONCAZ]

Have the filler valve on my door, but have an elbow on the rear of filler valve which forms a slight bend in pipe even with door open and when closed only a small bend , more of a sweeping bend rather than a tight 90 deg, no issues but check pipe regular

 

[TONCAZ]

Any guesses why dealers love fitting the filler points in the locker door ?

Cos its a doddle and only need a shortish hose....

 

[Guigsy]

It's not illegal. It was common practice. But it's been found to cause premature failure from fatigue. So it's generally frowned upon now. It wouldn't put me off buying a van. But I would carefully inspect the pipe. And longer term I'd relocate it, probably meaning a new door.

 

[Basildog]

Have the filler valve on my door, but have an elbow on the rear of filler valve which forms a slight bend in pipe even with door open and when closed only a small bend , more of a sweeping bend rather than a tight 90 deg, no issues but check pipe regular

Occasionally there really isn’t any other practical alternative other than fitting the filler point in the locker door .
No regulation to say it can’t be done but it’s always better not to if possible.
Personally I would change the filler hose every couple of years as they can and do fail ,
I guarantee that anyone who experiences a stainless steel hose failing in a locker will never forget it

 

[Basildog]

It's not illegal. It was common practice. But it's been found to cause premature failure from fatigue. So it's generally frowned upon now. It wouldn't put me off buying a van. But I would carefully inspect the pipe. And longer term I'd relocate it, probably meaning a new door.

Not a criticism but how would you inspect the pipe ?

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[Spriddler]

Have the filler valve on my door, but have an elbow on the rear of filler valve which forms a slight bend in pipe even with door open and when closed only a small bend , more of a sweeping bend rather than a tight 90 deg, no issues but check pipe regular

Mine's the same, plus when the door is opened it rests on the ground so no stress/tension on the hose. When the door's shut the hose falls in a gentle loop inside the locker.
I have one Gaslow and one Calor, both permanently connected but in the 7 years since I installed the kit I've never used the Calor.
(If I ever removed the system I'd put a vent over the hole in the door).

 

[HugoBNB]

Any guesses why dealers love fitting the filler points in the locker door ?

Yup, it is easier!
That is why I checked it on email with Gaslow.

 

[G-A-R-Y]

I assume you're asking on here as the m/h isn't conveniently near to you so best to phone the seller.

200 miles away.

 

[Spriddler]

200 miles away.

I thought that was the case so if it's a dealer selling, consider a dealer's distance if you need to take a m/h back for attention or warranty work.

 

[G-A-R-Y]

It's near Blackpool if any one fancies checking it out for us.