Is it legal for a passenger to walk about while motorhome is in motion?

[Coolcats]

As long as you belt them while they do it

I've changed that for you.

You can be arrested for belting people violence is never tolerated

 

[L' Hobo]

You can be arrested for belting people violence is never tolerated

I agree but who was talking about violence?

 

[Coolcats]

I agree but who was talking about violence?

That’s ok just checking

 

[1090alex]

We have a desk/office chair. The type with wheels on, and have fitted a seatbelt to it. That way the wife can scoot around the van, make lunch, and hot drinks legally whilst travelling. As she is seated and belted.





None of the above is true

I take it the office chair has air bags...

 

[Jerrywh]

Apparently it's not very reliable.

Woman crashed motorhome using cruise control while making cup of tea

A woman crashed her new luxury motorhome at 40mph after putting on the cruise control and getting up to make a cup of tea, a court heard today.

www.suffolkgazette.com

That newspaper is a goldmine! This one had me laughing:

Bungling fuel thief siphons motorhome toilet into his mouth

A thief who tried to steal fuel from a motorhome got a shock when he put a hose in his mouth and siphoned off the contents of the toilet.

www.suffolkgazette.com

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[Jerrywh]

There you go, from the Horses mouth not the neurotic safety Nannies

I played rugby
I was a Scuba instructor regularly plus 50m wreck dives
I smoked
I drink loads
I drive too fast, and bought sports cars to drive really fast on the Autobahn
I eat Peanuts
I light bonfires with Petrol
I used to climb tree's
I jump off walls
I like going in ruined buildings
I like going to area's abroad I'm told to "steer well clear of"
I tend not to turn the electric off when changing an appliance
I've worked with power tools all my life
I go up ladders
I stand on the very top of step ladders

I mention this as at 64 years old I have listened all my life to people telling me that "I shouldn't" when they normally mean they would be scared to do it themselves

Lay off the peanuts, I should ...

 

[cyberyacht]

What?...Like this you mean:

Remember seeing that film with my parents. Hilarious film. I thought funniest bit was the husband dumping her "rock momentos" when unable to get up a gradient.

 

[Whippetsontour]

I the driver has a beer, he should not be driving! That brings a whole new meaning to 'drink driving.'

The problem really is that in an emergency, someone is not restrained. They would likely be very badly injured in a crash and likely ejected from the vehicle. The weight of someone being thrown into the driver is likely to kill them as well. We have NEVER nipped back to close the wardrobe, cutlery drawer, oven door etc after the first turn!

Whenever I drink and drive I always end up spilling it!

 

[Jim]

I the driver has a beer, he should not be driving! That brings a whole new meaning to 'drink driving.'

Is there a law about drinking alcohol while driving?

I remember almost 40 years ago making a long drive every Friday afternoon, battling crazy traffic while driving from Surrey to Peterborough parachute centre. This was before the Dartford Bridge. Occasionally, it would take only 3½ hours other times it would be nearer 6. It was a slog of a drive and I was always so happy to arrive, and the cold beer Siân gave me a mile out from the centre always tasted so good.

 

[barryd]

Is there a law about drinking alcohol while driving?

I remember almost 40 years ago making a long drive every Friday afternoon, battling crazy traffic while driving from Surrey to Peterborough parachute centre. This was before the Dartford Bridge. Occasionally, it would take only 3½ hours other times it would be nearer 6. It was a slog of a drive and I was always so happy to arrive, and the cold beer Siân gave me a mile out from the centre always tasted so good.

Its legal to drink a beer or anything really when driving apparently. Unlike the US we do not have open vessel laws. My Honda Vision even has a beer holder. Well thats what I call it although it generally has a bottle of iced water in it to be fair but a Leffe bottle fits perfect. Just the one mind.

There was a case here. Almost a dead cert to get pulled over I would think though if they see you swigging Stella.

Police Give Warning To Woman Drinking Beer At The Wheel | Nick Freeman Solicitors | Expert Road Traffic Solicitors | The Home Of Mr Loophole

Call Mr Loophole's firm today on 0161 236 7007. Police in Surrey pulled a woman over after spotting her drinking from a can of Stella behind the wheel, but because she tested under the legal driving

www.nickfreemansolicitors.co.uk

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[sedge]

Just a thought, is it strictly for loaves. In Essex, what do you use to cut baguettes or rolls?

Not sure about Essex, but do know that in Staffordshire, Worcestershire, Warwickshire and any other county or country we might be in our motorhome - we still use the breadknife if it's bread, whatever shape or recipe used.

 

[Jim]

Its legal to drink a beer or anything really when driving apparently. Unlike the US we do not have open vessel laws. My Honda Vision even has a beer holder. Well thats what I call it although it generally has a bottle of iced water in it to be fair but a Leffe bottle fits perfect. Just the one mind.

There was a case here. Almost a dead cert to get pulled over I would think though if they see you swigging Stella.

Police Give Warning To Woman Drinking Beer At The Wheel | Nick Freeman Solicitors | Expert Road Traffic Solicitors | The Home Of Mr Loophole

Call Mr Loophole's firm today on 0161 236 7007. Police in Surrey pulled a woman over after spotting her drinking from a can of Stella behind the wheel, but because she tested under the legal driving

www.nickfreemansolicitors.co.uk

Police in Surrey pulled a woman over after spotting her drinking from a can of Stella behind the wheel, but because she tested under the legal driving limit, they were forced to let her drive away with just a talking to.

Yes, just as I thought.

 

[Shango]

Technically and legally the driver is not allowed to eat or drink while driving, the passengers can eat and drink while the vehicle is moving but they must remain seated and belted, and no they can not go for a wee in a moving vehicle, everyone has to wait until the driver stops and parks in a safe area before anyone can get out of their seats to get a drink, fix something to eat, use the loo etc. And that's not just for motorhomes, it's for all vehicles... cars, vans, lorries etc etc. And believe it or not...but you can get a ticket/fine if the radio/stereo is too loud while driving as you may not hear emergency vehicles coming.

For anyone who smokes...in Ireland, it's illegal to smoke in a vehicle with minors (kids) in the vehicle. But you can if you don't have minors with you.

 

[KiltedCamper]

Just posing an answer to a question on a different thread, but is it legal for any passenger to get up and move about in the back of a motorhome whilst it is underway?
Coaches have toilet compartments for passengers to use while the coach is in motion, and they used to have (maybe still do) hostesses who bought drinks round while the coach was in motion.

It doesn't matter whether it's legal or not, walking around in a moving motor vehicle qualifies you for a Darwin award.

 

[Jim]

Technically and legally the driver is not allowed to eat or drink while driving

If that were true, (it isn't) the lady caught drinking Stella would have been prosecuted. As far as I can see, legally or technically. As long as you are not distracted, you can eat and drink while driving.

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[barryd]

Technically and legally the driver is not allowed to eat or drink while driving, the passengers can eat and drink while the vehicle is moving but they must remain seated and belted, and no they can not go for a wee in a moving vehicle, everyone has to wait until the driver stops and parks in a safe area before anyone can get out of their seats to get a drink, fix something to eat, use the loo etc. And that's not just for motorhomes, it's for all vehicles... cars, vans, lorries etc etc. And believe it or not...but you can get a ticket/fine if the radio/stereo is too loud while driving as you may not hear emergency vehicles coming.

For anyone who smokes...in Ireland, it's illegal to smoke in a vehicle with minors (kids) in the vehicle. But you can if you don't have minors with you.

Its not illegal for the driver to drink or eat at the wheel. As said, we don't have an open vessel law in the UK so you can drink fluids while driving. They could however decide to prosecute you for careless driving if you do something daft while drinking or eating at the wheel and they deem it was a contributing factor. A bit of a grey area but it is not illegal to do so.

 

[L' Hobo]

Police in Surrey pulled a woman over after spotting her drinking from a can of Stella behind the wheel, but because she tested under the legal driving limit, they were forced to let her drive away with just a talking to.

Yes, just as I thought.

Had it been me, they would have booked me for 'not being in control of a vehicle'.

I bet she was young and good looking!

Find me a story about an old wrinkly man being let off?

PS, they were not 'FORCED to let her drive away'.

 

[TDub49]

Its not illegal for the driver to drink or eat at the wheel. As said, we don't have an open vessel law in the UK so you can drink fluids while driving. They could however decide to prosecute you for careless driving if you do something daft while drinking or eating at the wheel and they deem it was a contributing factor. A bit of a grey area but it is not illegal to do so.

Well, the RAC (and others) have this to say: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/driving-without-due-care-and-attention/

Basically, it's not technically illegal but you are at the mercy of a bored traffic cop if you eat and drink at the wheel whilst in motion on the basis of driving without due care.

 

[Jim]

PS, they were not 'FORCED to let her drive away'.

I was quoting the solicitor, it was their words not mine.

I suppose if they wanted to nick her and couldn't, they were forced to let her go. Which is probably what the solicitor meant.

 

[Jim]

Basically, it's not technically illegal

Thanks, I knew it wasn't illegal. Not sure what you mean by technically, things are illegal or they are not. Nothing technical about it.

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[L' Hobo]

If that were true, (it isn't) the lady caught drinking Stella would have been prosecuted. As far as I can see, legally or technically. As long as you are not distracted, you can eat and drink while driving.

What part of not being distracted can be achieved by tipping a handheld can up, in front of your face, am I missing?
You can only see forward with one eye, the hand holding the can blocks the other unless you have a straw?

 

[Jim]

What part of not being distracted can be achieved by tipping a handheld can up

I wasn't there, had they thought she was distracted, I'm sure they would have prosecuted her.

 

[barryd]

Well, the RAC (and others) have this to say: https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/driving-without-due-care-and-attention/

Basically, it's not technically illegal but you are at the mercy of a bored traffic cop if you eat and drink at the wheel whilst in motion on the basis of driving without due care.

I think though that they could not prosecute you for say sipping a diet coke out of a bottle or a can of Stella even or scoffing a pork pie unless you were actually "driving without due care and attention" by which I mean doing something you shouldn't have been. So you would have to commit a driving offence. If you were driving along a motorway at 70 mph perfectly normal but swigging a bottle of Coke as I interpret it that would not be an offence but if you say crossed a solid white line because it appeared you were distracted because you were drinking it would be.

 

[meanders]

The problem with that interpretation is that it's easy to say they observed for a while and you seemed to be struggling to stay in your lane. Then they find you drinking from a can. Your risk, your licence.

 

[Northernraider]

I was listening to a local radio somewhere in the states, and people were ringing in with the most bizarre thing that they had ever a driver doing, one was peeling potatoes, I think it was in stop start traffic and not doing speed down a highway. Mmmm chips

I confess to having buttered toast and made a coffee while driving. But many can't hold the steering wheel and turn on the indicator at same time . ..BMW drivers in particular

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[eddie]

Technically and legally the driver is not allowed to eat or drink while driving, the passengers can eat and drink while the vehicle is moving but they must remain seated and belted, and no they can not go for a wee in a moving vehicle, everyone has to wait until the driver stops and parks in a safe area before anyone can get out of their seats to get a drink, fix something to eat, use the loo etc. And that's not just for motorhomes, it's for all vehicles... cars, vans, lorries etc etc.

Can you show me that law?

Or is that your perceived opinion? In which case my opinion:-

Technically and legally it is fine to leave your seat and get a drink or use the loo, which is why National Express have toilets and advertise the fact that you can use the loo during the journey, and they have a bar!

If you go up to the VIP market there is loads you can choose from

People that hate airline food will be happy to hear we even have a fully-fitted kitchen for use, along with a well-stocked bar to help you get the party started or relax after a busy day.

www.vipcoachhire.com

The reality is pages and pages of opinion, no one has been prosecuted, no one has been able to quote the "legislation" that the worriers "assume" must exist to save them whilst the rest of us that think that we should be responsible for our own safety, not needing a "law" to know how to live our lives take sensible and reasonable risks, much to the shock horror of the timid

 

[eddie]

The problem with that interpretation is that it's easy to say they observed for a while and you seemed to be struggling to stay in your lane. Then they find you drinking from a can. Your risk, your licence.

exactly no busybodies business.

I am always amused on forums that some seem to think that they should educate others and show them the error of their ways

Dig down and you often find such people are ex coppers, ex school teachers and probably were a prefect or head boy/girl at school and even further back were milk monitors!

Some say that its a mental affliction, a narcissistic gene, a little voice in their head that says "OO Oooo Tell them, Tell them, tell 'em their wrong, Go on Go on!"

Just kidding I don't think that

 

[Bill-H]

It doesn't matter whether it's legal or not, walking around in a moving motor vehicle qualifies you for a Darwin award.

Does that cover going to the loo in a coach, how about walking round on a train - people get killed in train accidents and they don't have seat belts do they?
Where do you draw your line?

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Hhhmmmee,so driving whilst suffering from a cold, or hay fever might also be deemed as driving without due care and attention as at some point you're going to sneeze, or cough or have a big hanky or wedge of tissues stuck up in front of your dribbling bugle, and eyes. Playing solitaire, or having smorgasbord of titbits spread out in front of you may be more clear cut, but a passenger handing you a ready made snack, or opened drink is somewhat different.
Mike.

 

[barryd]

This is the only legislation that seems to apply.

Carriage of passengers in campervans

www.gov.uk

From ChatGTP

Regulation 100 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 stipulates that vehicles must not be used in a manner that causes or is likely to cause danger to any person in or on the vehicle or on the road. This encompasses the way passengers are carried and their behavior during transit. Therefore, a passenger moving around a motorhome while it's moving could be considered as creating a potential danger, thereby violating this regulation.

Additionally, Section 40A of the Road Traffic Act 1988 makes it an offence to use a vehicle on a road when the manner in which passengers are carried involves a danger of injury to any person. This further reinforces the requirement for passengers to remain seated and restrained while the vehicle is in motion.

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