Is it just me that thinks this?

[gpat]

No señor. No es un 4x4!

Solo es un rear-wheel drive.

I'll rephrase it. It's not trying to look like a camper. It's cool though.

 

[Tea Bag]

Hi.
A lot of members wave to Horse boxes and Ocardo vans,so size/looks don't matter to them. Some people are in a position whereby lack of space at home for parking or age and yearly medicals come into play. Then there is Layout and Price/selling on ?
Just remember,what will carry a lot will carry a little........ But not squeeze into narrower places,hence " Toads.leccy bikes and the like " being part of the unit as a whole. Base vehicle badge on the front or back ?......... Last thing i look for.
Tea Bag

 

[dhall26]

This is my Ducato L4H2 which I think looks fine. But then I'm biased as I built it!

 

[trevor 87]

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We don't do campsites not found the need.

Love the graphics

 

[gpat]

This is my Ducato L4H2 which I think looks fine. But then I'm biased as I built it!View attachment 682875

Looks great. They are so much more attractive than any of the other PVC bases. The Sprinter has such a big long ugly nose and the transit (sorry) just doesnt look right at all.

Beauty being in the eye of the beholder of course.

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[PaulAndMaz]

I was considering an L4H3 boxer for a while. That's also a great big van
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PS, looks better in a dark colour

Like this?

 

[dhall26]

They are also narrower I believe than a Fiat.

Yes about 100mm less interior width

 

[Plumberz]

Well i drive a white fiat ducato everyday for work so glad when i get into my coachbuilt bessacarr as looks like a motor home. My friends paid 75 grand for their van which looks like my work van with plsstic windows and higher back doors and roof.

 

[BillandHelen]

We love our big 7m Wildax sprinter! Beauty definitely in the eye of the beholder!!

 

[Littlewheels]

In 2007 l bought a brand new Sprinter and had it professionally converted to my specification and at considerable cost and it certainly didn’t resemble a Camper it was a Motorhome.
RP Motorhomes are highly regarded converters of Sprinters and they always come in at £100k+ but a top of the range one will cost £150+
they are not Campervans.

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[Tonks]

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We don't do campsites not found the need.

Cracking van!

 

[dhall26]

In 2007 l bought a brand new Sprinter and had it professionally converted to my specification and at considerable cost and it certainly didn’t resemble a Camper it was a Motorhome.
RP Motorhomes are highly regarded converters of Sprinters and they always come in at £100k+ but a top of the range one will cost £150+
they are not Campervans.

Of course to be pedantic! According to the DVLA there is no such thing as a Camper or Motorhome, as they are all Motorcaravans

 

[DrDeath]

This is my Ducato L4H2 which I think looks fine. But then I'm biased as I built it!View attachment 682875

She’s a beauty!! Well done

 

[Ian Bosman]

In 2007 l bought a brand new Sprinter and had it professionally converted to my specification and at considerable cost and it certainly didn’t resemble a Camper it was a Motorhome.
RP Motorhomes are highly regarded converters of Sprinters and they always come in at £100k+ but a top of the range one will cost £150+
they are not Campervans.

In my way of thinking, a Campervan is a van (as it left the factory) which is then converted in such a way that the base van is identical to the factory product but with added windows and decals, roof lights and rollouts. A Motorhome comes in two forms, Coach Built and A Class (integrated in some countries is the term used) ie the Coachbuilt has the cab of the base van but little else whereas the A Class has a body totally different from any other manufacturer. I believe it is nothing to do with cost but a simple way of referring to what to look for. Or is this some form of snobbery? BTW, a photo, Littlewheels, would show us what you claim to be your Motorhome. If you look at my picture, that is a coach built motorhome.

 

[DBK]

The size of windows used in the conversion is a factor. Windows are expensive and so some home converters are tempted to skimp and fit fewer and smaller windows than commercial converters would fit. The end result can look like a van with windows.

I don't mean this as a criticism of home converters, I'm all for saving money.

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[Littlewheels]

In my way of thinking, a Campervan is a van (as it left the factory) which is then converted in such a way that the base van is identical to the factory product but with added windows and decals, roof lights and rollouts. A Motorhome comes in two forms, Coach Built and A Class (integrated in some countries is the term used) ie the Coachbuilt has the cab of the base van but little else whereas the A Class has a body totally different from any other manufacturer. I believe it is nothing to do with cost but a simple way of referring to what to look for. Or is this some form of snobbery? BTW, a photo, Littlewheels, would show us what you claim to be your Motorhome. If you look at my picture, that is a coach built motorhome.

The claim was from 2007 long gone, Google RP Motorhomes to compare and since you have expressed your opinion no disrespect but many box type Motorhomes look not a lot different to Box Vans, a Van Chassis with a body but with different values subject to the fixtures and fittings.

 

[Abgs]

I know it's subjective, and it might be just me, but this thought struck me today. My neighbour has just converted a Crafter. It's a fine job. We also have some friends with an older Sprinter.

It got me thinking. When a Ducato/Boxer/ Relay pulls onto a site they look like camper vans. When a Sprinter or a Crafter pulls on to site I see a great big van. That regardless of how good the conversion is.

I'm a neutral as we have a coachbuilt.

Is it just me or not?

I think that's what I like about mine. A first glance it's just a 6m Sprinter van. a bit stealthy and super manoeuvrable.

Once parked, it transforms into a full on camper-van. Not a fan of campsites myself - this was at Latitude Festival.

I tried a few Ducato based vans before I bought this. In fairness I could get a better level of fit and finish internally and probably a better layout but I just couldn't get on on with the driving position of the Fiat. The cab is too cramped for me and I'm too tall to be able to see properly through the windscreen.

 

[Otter Spotter]

Having had a Citroen Relay high top 6m van converted and driven a few Merc sprinters and VW Crafters I have to say the Sprinters/Crafter drive nice, better than the Relay however without a popped out side fitting you cannot sleep transverse in a Sprinter/Crafter which starts to limit the internal layout. They may have reduced the rust issues in Mercs but I am happy with my Relay and the square internal dimensions make it a great space inside.

 

[dhall26]

In my way of thinking, a Campervan is a van (as it left the factory) which is then converted in such a way that the base van is identical to the factory product but with added windows and decals, roof lights and rollouts. A Motorhome comes in two forms, Coach Built and A Class (integrated in some countries is the term used) ie the Coachbuilt has the cab of the base van but little else whereas the A Class has a body totally different from any other manufacturer. I believe it is nothing to do with cost but a simple way of referring to what to look for. Or is this some form of snobbery? BTW, a photo, Littlewheels, would show us what you claim to be your Motorhome. If you look at my picture, that is a coach built motorhome.

But, of course, according to the DVLA there are no Campervans or Motorhomes. They are all Motorcaravans

 

[gpat]

As OP, its worth remembering I was only commenting about perception, well my perception - of first impressions when a van drives onto a site or Aire. I wasn't meaning to discuss the merits of Sprinter vs Ducato etc. Its fine of course and that's the thing about this forum

Going back to the OP though I have been thinking about the points made on here and I think my perceptions are almost instinctive and childlike

For example, we have a 7m Coachbuilt. Its quite an attractive vehicle (IMO). When I ask my 3yo Grandson what it is, he says

"Campervan!"

When I ask him what my friends 7m Sprinter PVC is he says

"Lorry!"

Maybe I have a 3 year old brain.

Personally I think the Ducato is by far the most attractive of all the PVCs, especially in its latest guise. But like I keep saying, beauty is in the eye of the beholder

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[Abgs]

For example, we have a 7m Coachbuilt. Its quite an attractive vehicle (IMO). When I ask my 3yo Grandson what it is, he says

"Campervan!"

When I ask him what my friends 7m Sprinter PVC is he says

"Lorry!"

Maybe I have a 3 year old brain.

Similar here ... our 4 year grandson used to refer to previous 7m A class as a bus, so was known as the Camper Bus, the Sprinter as a truck, now commonly referred to as the Camper Truck.

 

[eddie]

I won't be popular with any Merc/VW PVC owners for this but...

I know it's subjective, and it might be just me, but this thought struck me today. My neighbour has just converted a Crafter. It's a fine job. We also have some friends with an older Sprinter.

It got me thinking. When a Ducato/Boxer/ Relay pulls onto a site they look like camper vans. When a Sprinter or a Crafter pulls on to site I see a great big van. That regardless of how good the conversion is.

I'm a neutral as we have a coachbuilt.

Is it just me or not?

I love my Merc

 

[Otter Spotter]

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I love my Merc

I take it that’s the Winnebago parked up outside your office last week, it’s a lovely van and a good size without being a glorified horse box

 

[gpat]

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I love my Merc

Now you have done it. You have introduced Sprinter Coachbuilts into the mix

Its an impressive van but it has a bit of a look of a very posh horsebox to it. Not that there is anything wrong with posh horseboxes

PS I have just seen Otter Spotter 's comment and replied before I had.

 

[eddie]

Now you have done it. You have introduced Sprinter Coachbuilts into the mix

Its an impressive van but it has a bit of a look of a very posh horsebox to it. Not that there is anything wrong with posh horseboxes

PS I have just seen Otter Spotter 's comment and replied before I had.

What else would a stallion drive?

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[Northernraider]

Just be clear. I don't dislike the look of the sprinters as vans. It's just they don't look like campervans.

Some are most likely trying NOT to look like campervans . Stealth look perhaps

Out of my 2 I prefer the van look to this big white box

 

[gpat]

Some are most likely trying NOT to look like campervans . Stealth look perhaps

Out of my 2 I prefer the van look to this big white box View attachment 683696

Nowt wrong with that.