I'm not a fan of wildcamping

I'm not fond of campsites. Having holidayed on them throughout my childhood it always felt like switching suburbia for suburbia without a telly. I just find them regimented and too close to other people. That said some sites are lovely and thoughtfully laid out. I don't know I just feel that sites generally don't offer the getting away from it all of getting away from it all. I get that they offer a safe base, with amenities, to explore a particular area from but still, my personal goal is isolation and this can't be achieved on the majority of sites.
I feel it's very easy to judge choices from the position of our own values and preferences. So we fail to understand them? For me all I care about is folk being considerate of others. And I've seen pitches left in abysmal state just as I've seen lay-bys disgustingly abandoned. The only difference is the sites have some poor soul to clean up after these selfish creatures.
Like Boris7, my personal choice is to camp as wild as possible but utilise selected sites for refills and reconnect with humanity, until I'm reminded of why I yearned disconnection in the first place 🤣
 
JJ said:
I claim to be the originator of the term "Off-Site" motor homing... :whistle2:

I consider "aires" to be sites.
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Can I use the term under licence please?? 😁

And I can't deny that some Aires are more like 'sites'. Tend to avoid them if possible also!
 
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Aires = 'sites'?

Can be like sites, e.g. Honfleur, packed most days.

Can be not like sites. e.g. one of our favourites is just a parking area next to a quiet tree-lined stream and in 3 visits have only had one other MH there, when it could take 40.

Many aires we are alone.

Geoff

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nicholsong said:
Aires = 'sites'?

Can be like sites, e.g. Honfleur, packed most days.

Can be not like sites. e.g. one of our favourites is just a parking area next to a quiet tree-lined stream and in 3 visits have only had one other MH there, when it could take 40.

Many aires we are alone.

Geoff
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The quiet ones i like ...the packed like sardines ones ...no thanks
 
Catchic said:
I'm not fond of campsites. Having holidayed on them throughout my childhood it always felt like switching suburbia for suburbia without a telly. I just find them regimented and too close to other people. That said some sites are lovely and thoughtfully laid out. I don't know I just feel that sites generally don't offer the getting away from it all of getting away from it all. I get that they offer a safe base, with amenities, to explore a particular area from but still, my personal goal is isolation and this can't be achieved on the majority of sites.
I feel it's very easy to judge choices from the position of our own values and preferences. So we fail to understand them? For me all I care about is folk being considerate of others. And I've seen pitches left in abysmal state just as I've seen lay-bys disgustingly abandoned. The only difference is the sites have some poor soul to clean up after these selfish creatures.
Like Boris7, my personal choice is to camp as wild as possible but utilise selected sites for refills and reconnect with humanity, until I'm reminded of why I yearned disconnection in the first place 🤣
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Well said..this is one of the reason I prefer wilding...in the words of that bald guy "if a picture paints a thousand words"
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Catchic said:
I'm not fond of campsites. Having holidayed on them throughout my childhood it always felt like switching suburbia for suburbia without a telly. I just find them regimented and too close to other people. That said some sites are lovely and thoughtfully laid out. I don't know I just feel that sites generally don't offer the getting away from it all of getting away from it all. I get that they offer a safe base, with amenities, to explore a particular area from but still, my personal goal is isolation and this can't be achieved on the majority of sites.
I feel it's very easy to judge choices from the position of our own values and preferences. So we fail to understand them? For me all I care about is folk being considerate of others. And I've seen pitches left in abysmal state just as I've seen lay-bys disgustingly abandoned. The only difference is the sites have some poor soul to clean up after these selfish creatures.
Like Boris7, my personal choice is to camp as wild as possible but utilise selected sites for refills and reconnect with humanity, until I'm reminded of why I yearned disconnection in the first place 🤣
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Of course everybody makes a choice based on your own values and preferences I am not sure what the alternative options are.
You have made a judgement and a position of defense leveled those that do not necessarily share your own views. The point being made within this post was NOT to be critical of those that want to ‘wild camp’ or whatever you want to call it but a view on what options have been put forward by others as potential locations for wild camping, lay-byes, cul de sacs pub car parks do not do it for me. It seems with the South East there are not many opportunities although I am sure there are some in the know that have secret places (perhaps within the spirit of the Motorhome community would be happy to share). Wild camping is exciting, we have wild camped around many places in the World within the criteria set out by those countries. And good for anybody that wants to do it wherever you want to, as long as you say, they are within the law, they respect other people’s land and the environment. I recall you could camp more or less wherever you wanted to in the New Forest in the 60’s but that was with a UK population of 25 million less than it is now which is of course quite significant. I would just ask you to please don’t try and judge those that do not share your preferences for wild camping in the UK - we all have a view.
 
pandas said:
Of course everybody makes a choice based on your own values and preferences I am not sure what the alternative options are.
You have made a judgement and a position of defense leveled those that do not necessarily share your own views. The point being made within this post was NOT to be critical of those that want to ‘wild camp’ or whatever you want to call it but a view on what options have been put forward by others as potential locations for wild camping, lay-byes, cul de sacs pub car parks do not do it for me. It seems with the South East there are not many opportunities although I am sure there are some in the know that have secret places (perhaps within the spirit of the Motorhome community would be happy to share). Wild camping is exciting, we have wild camped around many places in the World within the criteria set out by those countries. And good for anybody that wants to do it wherever you want to, as long as you say, they are within the law, they respect other people’s land and the environment. I recall you could camp more or less wherever you wanted to in the New Forest in the 60’s but that was with a UK population of 25 million less than it is now which is of course quite significant. I would just ask you to please don’t try and judge those that do not share your preferences for wild camping in the UK - we all have a view.
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We do indeed
.it would be a boring world if we didn't
 
pandas said:
Of course everybody makes a choice based on your own values and preferences I am not sure what the alternative options are.
You have made a judgement and a position of defense leveled those that do not necessarily share your own views. The point being made within this post was NOT to be critical of those that want to ‘wild camp’ or whatever you want to call it but a view on what options have been put forward by others as potential locations for wild camping, lay-byes, cul de sacs pub car parks do not do it for me. It seems with the South East there are not many opportunities although I am sure there are some in the know that have secret places (perhaps within the spirit of the Motorhome community would be happy to share). Wild camping is exciting, we have wild camped around many places in the World within the criteria set out by those countries. And good for anybody that wants to do it wherever you want to, as long as you say, they are within the law, they respect other people’s land and the environment. I recall you could camp more or less wherever you wanted to in the New Forest in the 60’s but that was with a UK population of 25 million less than it is now which is of course quite significant. I would just ask you to please don’t try and judge those that do not share your preferences for wild camping in the UK - we all have a view.
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I wonder how many people went out and bought a Motorhome with the intention of parking it in a row with lots of others and wanting to be surrounded by rules etc? As for lay-byes and cul de sacs your right, I’d never sleep in either and agin who would by a Motorhome with such plans.

I live in a cul de sac with only 11 houses, and there’s 3 Motorhome owners, 1 always stays on sites, mainly because they are worried about security and facilities, the second never goes to any site, and will use lay-byes, pub car parks and rough ground pretty much anywhere.

I mainly wild camp but do use sites.

I guess none of us are right, it’s just horses for courses

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pandas said:
Of course everybody makes a choice based on your own values and preferences I am not sure what the alternative options are.
You have made a judgement and a position of defense leveled those that do not necessarily share your own views. The point being made within this post was NOT to be critical of those that want to ‘wild camp’ or whatever you want to call it but a view on what options have been put forward by others as potential locations for wild camping, lay-byes, cul de sacs pub car parks do not do it for me. It seems with the South East there are not many opportunities although I am sure there are some in the know that have secret places (perhaps within the spirit of the Motorhome community would be happy to share). Wild camping is exciting, we have wild camped around many places in the World within the criteria set out by those countries. And good for anybody that wants to do it wherever you want to, as long as you say, they are within the law, they respect other people’s land and the environment. I recall you could camp more or less wherever you wanted to in the New Forest in the 60’s but that was with a UK population of 25 million less than it is now which is of course quite significant. I would just ask you to please don’t try and judge those that do not share your preferences for wild camping in the UK - we all have a view.
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You couldn't have misunderstood me more.
When I said "we" I included me!
 
Boris7 said:
I wonder how many people went out and bought a Motorhome with the intention of parking it in a row with lots of others and wanting to be surrounded by rules etc?
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Can't remember seeing a motorhome advert, with the van parked 6m from others. They are always lake side, beach side, vineyard side, meadow side....never side by side '\
 
Lenny HB said:
That is totally irrelavent.
Anyway you can check out leave your bags and pick them up later. Try doing that with your Motorhome on a site.
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Most sites have a carpark for early/late arrivals.

Show me the contract details where it says your pitch fee is for 24h?

Are your beloved aires* charged on an hourly basis?

*Those that aren't free.

This argument is just silly.
 
pandas said:
Of course everybody makes a choice based on your own values and preferences I am not sure what the alternative options are.
You have made a judgement and a position of defense leveled those that do not necessarily share your own views. The point being made within this post was NOT to be critical of those that want to ‘wild camp’ or whatever you want to call it but a view on what options have been put forward by others as potential locations for wild camping, lay-byes, cul de sacs pub car parks do not do it for me. It seems with the South East there are not many opportunities although I am sure there are some in the know that have secret places (perhaps within the spirit of the Motorhome community would be happy to share). Wild camping is exciting, we have wild camped around many places in the World within the criteria set out by those countries. And good for anybody that wants to do it wherever you want to, as long as you say, they are within the law, they respect other people’s land and the environment. I recall you could camp more or less wherever you wanted to in the New Forest in the 60’s but that was with a UK population of 25 million less than it is now which is of course quite significant. I would just ask you to please don’t try and judge those that do not share your preferences for wild camping in the UK - we all have a view.
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Hear Hear

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Jim said:
Can't remember seeing a motorhome advert, with the van parked 6m from others. They are always lake side, beach side, vineyard side, meadow side....never side by side :D
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Since when have any adverts for leisure activities been realistic...
My fields, airlines... visuals were always first class, maybe business once they got the lie flat beds...
But the prices were always based on economy.
 
Langtoftlad said:
Are your beloved aires* charged on an hourly basis
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All of the Aires I've used the 24hrs has started when you get your ticket, assuming there's a machine.

If a person comes to collect the fee, there has never been a hard and fast rule.

The campsites I've been on, you have to leave at a certain time, regardless of when you arrive.
 
Langtoftlad said:
Aires are not "accommodation"... they're carparks...
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No diffent to campsites then I've been on far better Aires than a lot of campsites.

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Langtoftlad said:
And equally, far better campsites than crowded noisy carparks in dodgy areas...
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Unbelievable you are so biased it's unreal you have obviously never stayed on decent Aire where the marked pitches are often larger than cramped campsite ones.
Not worth discussing with you any further.
 

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