Hymer Ayers Rock - new to us and no full handover by dealer.

[Coolcats]

I've been thinking about that and I'm wondering if if it's the whole waste tank that is heated or perhaps the picture of the switch is saying that just the pipe connecting to the tank is heated. Also I think you will find that you can never actually manage to completely drain the waste tank unless you park on a sideways slope or you get some hydraulic jacks like ours.

On our Ayers Rock the leisure battery is under the driver's seat and it takes up about half the space at the back so from the sound of it you have got two batteries under the seat.

The description is 'Waste water tank heated and insulated' it is the package that is on all the 'winterised' Hymers's, it does not need to heat the water to 70c just 3c so even if its 0c outside just stops it turning to an ice block

 

[KnolePark]

Woke up this morning thinking about batteries, so wandered off in my dressing gown to the van to take a really good look under the driver’s seat. Yes there are two Varta AGM batteries squeezed in under there, one I could see was 95Ah but I couldn’t see the label on the front one as it is too tight, but I could work out the word Varta.

Below are the photos I took, much helped by the photo found of where someone else has fitted two under a Ducato seat (also shown) - no I didn’t take my seat to pieces this morning as I didn’t have the time - Weetabix were going soft. They were eating pretzels.

 

[Simon Select]

I hope you don’t mind, as I will ask simple questions, some of which may strike you as ignorant, but please bear with me as due to the crisis the handover of our new Hymercar by the dealer was “socially distanced”. We’ve recently sold our VW California which did us proud for a decade, and had a Mazda Bongo before that.

I’ll start with this question - what is this switch for? I am assuming it turns the electric hot water ‘immersion” on and off but then there is the control panel also doing this.

Hymer supply a very detailed manual, but this switch does not get a mention.

With thanks

Your dealer could have done a video handover for you and run everything up in the video.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Could we see some photo of your van please ?

 

[Coolcats]

Woke up this morning thinking about batteries, so wandered off in my dressing gown to the van to take a really good look under the driver’s seat. Yes there are two Varta AGM batteries squeezed in under there, one I could see was 95Ah but I couldn’t see the label on the front one as it is too tight, but I could work out the word Varta.

Below are the photos I took, much helped by the photo found of where someone else has fitted two under a Ducato seat (also shown) - no I didn’t take my seat to pieces this morning as I didn’t have the time - Weetabix were going soft. They were eating pretzels.

Picture 2 looks like your front battery and picture 3 is where you have slid the drivers seat forwards and you can see the rear battery with the heater pipe going over the top so yes its much as the picture 4 you posted with two batteries.

Note about the fridge light: with the door closed or the door in the 'aired' position the light should be out. remember to switch the control panel above the door to 'off' when not using the vehicle this ensures nothing is going to use the battery. you can hear a relay cut in/out for the ELB (under the passenger seat) when you do this.

The control panel above the door sometimes comes away from the four little clips holding the panel in. if it does try not to touch the rear of the panel. The clips are held on to the panel with double sided sticky tape, if they come away invest in some 3M VHB Tape 4941P 19mm x 3mm if you buy tape from elsewhere it won't have the same properties this tape is the real deal, I did buy some cheap double sided and it lasted about a month, I then replaced mine some 18 months ago with the 3M and they haven't moved. (I spoke with 3M technical help to get the right product)

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[Coolcats]

I hope you don’t mind, as I will ask simple questions, some of which may strike you as ignorant, but please bear with me as due to the crisis the handover of our new Hymercar by the dealer was “socially distanced”. We’ve recently sold our VW California which did us proud for a decade, and had a Mazda Bongo before that.

I’ll start with this question - what is this switch for? I am assuming it turns the electric hot water ‘immersion” on and off but then there is the control panel also doing this.

Hymer supply a very detailed manual, but this switch does not get a mention.

With thanks

Back to your original question, and this is something dealers do not discuss or at least not when we were buying is the notion of <Broken link removed>f a bit more digging should uncover what this is on the ayresrock but at a minimum it will be winterised particularly with the heated waste

 

[KnolePark]

Thank you. I already have some of that VHB tape so we will use it as, yes, the control panel is loose.

 

[KnolePark]

and here are photos of the campervan.

 

[KnolePark]

Yes the dealer did do a handover video and I will commend them for doing so, but it did miss stuff. A video is a one way conversation so no chance to point at something and say “what does that do?” or “can you have just one gas cylinder fitted and leave the other tail unattached to anything?”

 

[Coolcats]

Yes the dealer did do a handover video and I will commend them for doing so, but it did miss stuff. A video is a one way conversation so no chance to point at something and say “what does that do?” or “can you have just one gas cylinder fitted and leave the other tail unattached to anything?”

That is true, although I do think dealers need a pre sales technical person, the sales guys tend to have limited knowledge, regarding the gas there are several options, we had a GasLow installed with two cylinders and a Truma Duo Control regulator (typically Tuma have now changed to a later design for 2019>) and this is the video you may find to the left of the control panel you have a square panel with a rocker switch as in the video. The unit we have in the lower position it allow the heater to be used when driving and the upper position the same thing but also with the heater element for the regulator in winter conditions.

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[KnolePark]

Thank you for the video link - that's what we have and I found it helpful. I'll recommend the dealer add that to their video links with the other Truma videos on their website.

The apparatus is mounted on the ceiling of the cupboard in our van so the control knob faces the floor but luckily I am capable of lying on my back along the rear bumper in order to stick my head upside down into the cupboard to see the words and colours on the knob.

I had worked out that there is a pointer on the knob to allow you to select your "primary" operating cylinder so I had turned that to face the single tank we put in there. The indicator turned green, I pressed the green "purge" button and off we go.

However we do not as yet have a second cylinder installed (on order) so the other tail is just hanging there.

I've bought a W20 end cap for it which should arrive in a day or so so I can cap it off properly, and I didn't think there was any risk, but nonetheless I'd like to be reassured there was no chance at all that gas could find its way to what I think is a closed route by me, for example, fiddling with the Truma control panel inside the van.

 

[Coolcats]

Thank you for the video link - that's what we have and I found it helpful. I'll recommend the dealer add that to their video links with the other Truma videos on their website.

The apparatus is mounted on the ceiling of the cupboard in our van so the control knob faces the floor but luckily I am capable of lying on my back along the rear bumper in order to stick my head upside down into the cupboard to see the words and colours on the knob.

I had worked out that there is a pointer on the knob to allow you to select your "primary" operating cylinder so I had turned that to face the single tank we put in there. The indicator turned green, I pressed the green "purge" button and off we go.

However we do not as yet have a second cylinder installed (on order) so the other tail is just hanging there.

I've bought a W20 end cap for it which should arrive in a day or so so I can cap it off properly, and I didn't think there was any risk, but nonetheless I'd like to be reassured there was no chance at all that gas could find its way to what I think is a closed route by me, for example, fiddling with the Truma control panel inside the van.

sounds like your getting familiarised with the MoHo which is great that way all will work smoothly when away, I noticed you have an external Gas connector, I wouldn't mind getting an oven for mine that way I can make bread when we are away but again its another 'thing' to carry and not sure how much I would use an oven.

 

[KnolePark]

As you've gathered we didn't spec this van so have things we might not have ordered if we had done so, the external gas point being one.

Photos attached for general info.

So far it seems the van was specified by someone who intends travelling to places where the temperature is below freezing, but still like to cook on a BBQ outdoors. Hardy folk methinks.

 

[KnolePark]

We have a Body Comfort Pack fitted apparently - see below. An interesting mix of options in this pack - heater for the tank, gas changeover system, wooden shower tray. A bit random. Choosing what goes into a pack is a fun job at Hymer. Body comfort is having a heater in your waste tank.

 

[Coolcats]

We have a Body Comfort Pack fitted apparently - see below. An interesting mix of options in this pack - heater for the tank, gas changeover system, wooden shower tray. A bit random. Choosing what goes into a pack is a fun job at Hymer. Body comfort is having a heater in your waste tank.

That means if traveling in winter you can keep the central heating on whilst driving and of course you don't want the waste tank to freeze and the wood....well that just keeps your bare feet warm when on the loo (Remove it when having a shower)

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[KnolePark]

Mark, can you tell me which air suspension you fitted and how your research took you there? With thanks.

 

[KnolePark]

Sorry, remembered you fitted E&P System. I'm still interested to know what you think of it now fitted. Best wishes, Nick