Home TV: OLED, LED etc

[Lenny HB]

One thing to watch out for with LED/QLED/OLED or whatever else they are called is that the backlights can be prone to failing on some so make sure you check out the reviews for the make/type you are thinking of going for.

OLED's don't have backlights.

 

[BusyBuilder]

Our Panasonic now has screen burn on it as we listen to radio and it's left the Radio4 logo on the screen, it also has a shiny screen hich reflects from the window opposite.

Are there any TV's which don't get screen burn and have non reflective screens ?

 

[kevenh]

Personally, I’d be leaving a first generation Sky Glass tv well alone. The next question I’d be asking myself is do I want to be wed to the Sky platform like that? But horses for courses I suppose.

You know it will of been tested by staff in a limited release and then offered to existing Sky customers before a public launch, right?
What are you expecting has been missed?

 

[AndyPK]

You know it will of been tested by staff in a limited release and then offered to existing Sky customers before a public launch, right?
What are you expecting has been missed?

Like any ‘new’ product, there will always be issues Alpha and Beta testing did not reveal - the main ones with Sky Glass are software-related, I believe……

see here

SKY Glass Issues

Hi new to this sort of thing, This is day 2 ove ownership of sky glass and here are the issues that are frustrating me and having me think i have made the wrong move, and want to give it back 1. Set my sky glass tv up in main room at the moment very little issue, had to change some setting...

helpforum.sky.com

 

[Gromett]

I am not in the market for one at the moment but have been keeping up with the tech as used in computer monitors.

The benefits of OLED are that each individual pixel is off until specifically turned on. With an LCD the backlight shines through and is blocked (mostly) by the LCD panel which means that black is never truly black.

Here is the thing though. The O in OLED is organic. The issue with OLED is that is does fade over time and can suffer burn in if a static image is displayed too long. This will mainly be an issue for in store digital displays. But I have seen reports of it being an issue for TV's used for games, or if you have a news channel or financial channel with a constant banner on it. They can be recovered to a degree but not always fully.

The new micro led system seems to be a fairly nice compromise. Rather than having a solid backlight, it splits the screen up into small areas each of which has it's own independent LED back light. If an area of the picture is black then it turns off the led giving a true black. The downside is that in a fast moving dark scene you may see black blocks floating around. Some people notice these but most don't. However, with LCD you don't get burn in and you get the very long life span.

This is just one video I saw with the issue explained.

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[kevenh]

Like any ‘new’ product, there will always be issues Alpha and Beta testing did not reveal - the main ones with Sky Glass are software-related, I believe……

I don’t think manufacturers make the mistake of releasing a product too early like they did last century.
The “don’t buy until early adopters have fixed it” mantra is a bit last century.
Small bugs continue to be fixed in old products.
We’ll get usual products at public launch.

But do check reviews - as you should before any purchase
Sky Glass TV reviewed by a site I like techradar (maybe a repeat in this thread )

 

[Gromett]

PS: I had an OLED display on my last phone and after 6 years of use it had faded badly but didn't suffer from any burn in. But it was heavily used.

 

[Gromett]

Linus is one of those marmite characters who you either love or hate. But he is very professional in his output so even if you don't like him he is worth listening to for the most part.

Here is his explanation and review of a mini LED TV. Good breakdown of the technology.

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

I don’t think manufacturers make the mistake of releasing a product too early like they did last century.
The “don’t buy until early adopters have fixed it” mantra is a bit last century.
Small bugs continue to be fixed in old products.
We’ll get usual products at public launch.

But do check reviews - as you should before any purchase
Sky Glass TV reviewed by a site I like techradar (maybe a repeat in this thread )

We moved to Sky Q very soon after that first went GA, that definitely wasn’t ready. Pretty sure that was this century too.
It’s probably wise to be a selective early adopter relative to your personal level of trust/investment/comfort level in the brand and type of equipment involved.

 

[M-J]

At present Sky glass is too ugly for us to even consider, looks outdated from the get go.

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[Manic]

Check this out, may be of interest

 

[kevenh]

We moved to Sky Q very soon after that first went GA, that definitely wasn’t ready. Pretty sure that was this century too.
It’s probably wise to be a selective early adopter relative to your personal level of trust/investment/comfort level in the brand and type of equipment involved.

Sky Q at launch was only for Sky broadband customers and other known constraints.
It was launched with a different feature set to Sky HD.
Maybe that was deliberate as an attempt to differentiate market but from complaints about the things like the missing red & green button options of Sky HD product, Sky Q soon had software updates.

Sky Q was still a good PVR and source of Sky Channels.

I’m just trying to alleviate concerns that this century’s early adopters get something unusable .
E.g. Windows 11 is out. That’s been on public beta at least through this summer.
If your Windows 10 PC is working & there’s no feature in W11 you need, then wait, but otherwise it’ll be reasonable to expect a qualifying PC to work well on W11.

 

[Arnside037]

The trouble I found with sound systems was that their technical performance output was out performing my ability to hear it. I am now finding the same with TV's. I have a New Samsung Neo QLED and quite honestly can't discern that much improvement over its predecessor.
I feel that technology marketing is overtaking need in certain areas.
I have an internet speed of 60 Mbps in the sticks of Somerset which is plenty fast enough for me and my techno neighbour who is a high demand user with 4 gaming kids. Yet we are constantly fed the line that we can have better. So yes have vs need is the issue5!

Agree, the tech may exceed the need ... or even the capacity of the domestic infrastructure to handle the technology.
Since most TVs require an internet connection of some sort, one limiting factor may well be your internet speed to deliver enough data say for 4k or whatever comes next.
Here on one one side of the airport you have Virgin delivering 200+ mbs while on my side we get 12 mbs and which isn't planned to be upgraded by BT Openreach for at least 6 years. Been waiting 10 years already so i may be dead by the time they put in a decent connection.
Worth checking your new fangled TV will be able to benefit.

 

[M-J]

The trouble I found with sound systems was that their technical performance output was out performing my ability to hear it. I am now finding the same with TV's. I have a New Samsung Neo QLED and quite honestly can't discern that much improvement over its predecessor.
I feel that technology marketing is overtaking need in certain areas.
I have an internet speed of 60 Mbps in the sticks of Somerset which is plenty fast enough for me and my techno neighbour who is a high demand user with 4 gaming kids. Yet we are constantly fed the line that we can have better. So yes have vs need is the issue!

Which model Neo have you got? How do you find the new anti reflection screen, does it show a rainbow at certain angles?

 

[EuroTrotters]

I have always bought Sony, JVC, Panasonic in the past.

2015 I bought a New 4K Samsung Curved 49" TV. Purchased online from El Cortes Ingles in Spain and they delivered it to the UK. Its Brilliant, does exactly what we wanted and the Curve works great in the room we bought it for.

2016 I bought a New 4K Panasonic 49" in the UK took it to Spain. The TV is just, OK. Noting like the superb screen quality of the Samsung. Its motion is slow. If you sit that little bit too close, the pixels blur.

I would buy a Samsung in future. I work on some Samsung A/C and refrigeration products. Spare are very easily obtainable. LG are the worst In the Industry for spares and customer service.I would avoid them for those reasons.

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[MichaelT]

We have OLED from Sony and its brilliant. When we were in JL looking to buy we looked at Samsung etc. but the salesman said OLED was best especially with black etc. Thought it was just salesman BS but there happened to be a Sony OLED next to a Samsung QLED showing the same picture and the black suit of the man on screen was black on the Sony but more of a dark grey on the Samsung. As OLED can turn each led on/off the quality is better, not noticeable if you look in isolation but deffo can see next to each other.

We like the Sony interface too as its Android so can connect easily to phone/tablet (even to set it up) and Sky UHD is brilliant especially F1 which I now like to watch its like being there.

 

[Clarky]

I'm quite liking the thought of Sky Glass and have been watching the reviews since launch.
Our Samsung 48” is getting a bit long in the tooth now and I’ve been thinking of upgrading for a while. The smaller and much newer Samsung in the dining room has a far superior picture which highlights how things improve over a few years.
We have Sky Q so the idea of having it all incorporated in one TV with better picture and much better sound for about the same cost as we are paying now is interesting.
Also, the idea of paying for the TV monthly, like a mobile phone, at no extra costs and with the possibility of upgrading in the future also appeals.
I'll keep watching the reviews as more people get to use it but so far I’ve not seen any that would put me off.
It would be interesting to hear from any Funsters who have jumped in early.

Richard.

 

[Gooney]

We got a Sony oled 49” about 3 months ago, the attraction was that the speakers are built into the screen and for example, if a person is talking on the far right or left of the screen his voice sound comes from where he is standing, I’m 77 years old so my hearing ability is not the greatest but I must admit that within a group of people talking the sound does sound lest garbled. A strange thing about the Sony (screen by LG) is that the 49” is about £100 more expensive than the next size up 55”. The salesman recons that with the smaller screen the breakages during construction were greater than the larger sizes so there production costs were higher. I argued with my wife that we should have the 55” but she was adamant that it would be too big for the size of the room, I had to agree with her otherwise we wouldn’t have got a new TV. As already posted the LG screen fitted to the Sony is absolutely superb.

 

[IRHP]

people have mentioned sound and picture quality but not the time it takes to change between channels. We have 2 LG TVs, the bigger newer one takes forever to change between channels and is really annoying. This is one of the things I'd be checking out when purchasing my next one.

 

[Minxy]

people have mentioned sound and picture quality but not the time it takes to change between channels. We have 2 LG TVs, the bigger newer one takes forever to change between channels and is really annoying. This is one of the things I'd be checking out when purchasing my next one.

Also check the EPG/TV guide as some are excruciating!

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[Ninjabob]

Probably the best out there but not cheap:

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/televisions/a90j-series

Samsung will eventually give in and produce OLEDs

 

[Carpmart]

Whichever brand you get, make sure it’s got 3D and the Betamax connection!

 

[Coolcats]

OK so No1 daughter has kindly offered to recycle our 14yr old TV (50" Sharp LCD) which i guess has some more life left in it yet. So we are on the hunt for our next TV for our living room.

Technology: LCD (LED) or OLED or even QLED ? read plenty of reviews, watched plenty of spotty teenagers reviews on YT....
Size: decided to go a bit bigger, 65" or so as the room is large and we view the TV from approx 4m away
Brand: not bothered
Other: i do like the Phillips Ambilight feature but wonder if it's just a gimmick ?

Our living room is fairly dark (old house, small windows) and we only use the TV in the evenings. Also we already have a Sony sound bar that we will reuse.

What's peoples views based on real experience ?

Current favourite is a Phillips 65" OLED with Ambilight but still waiting for the sales end of this month before committing.

We have a 55 inch Phillips OLED Ambilight it is truly amazing, My understanding is that the display is made by LG. The surrounding back lite LED’s are no gimmick they are reactive to what os being displayed and enhance the viewing experience. If someone for example enters a room or gestures with a hand near the edge of the screen it is if the light is reflected off their hand or a shadow as they pass through a door.

Ambilight has several features, you can switch it off, you can have it as background lighting we also have Phillips Hue an Ambilight allows you to connect to the lights and they will change colour as the film changes and again very reactive.

If our TV broke we would definitely buy another Phillips Ambilight TV .

So with a display made by LG, Phillips wizardry it’s quite an amazing TV. Oh it also has the Bowes and Wilks sound at so looks and sounds rather neat too.

Just to add we do not use the smart features just free to air and a media computer and an Apple TV. All these darn smart TV’s are aimed at forcing you to Netflix or Amazon or sky. So we have more control over what we watch what we pay and what data is collected.

The operating system behind the TV is Android why on earth would I want to give Google more information about what we watch so they can push content our way.

 

[Ridgeway]

We have a 55 inch Phillips OLED Ambilight it is truly amazing, My understanding is that the display is made by LG. The surrounding back lite LED’s are no gimmick they are reactive to what os being displayed and enhance the viewing experience. If someone for example enters a room or gestures with a hand near the edge of the screen it is if the light is reflected off their hand or a shadow as they pass through a door.

Ambilight has several features, you can switch it off, you can have it as background lighting we also have Phillips Hue an Ambilight allows you to connect to the lights and they will change colour as the film changes and again very reactive.

If our TV broke we would definitely buy another Phillips Ambilight TV .

So with a display made by LG, Phillips wizardry it’s quite an amazing TV. Oh it also has the Bowes and Wilks sound at so looks and sounds rather neat too.

Just to add we do not use the smart features just free to air and a media computer and an Apple TV. All these darn smart TV’s are aimed at forcing you to Netflix or Amazon or sky. So we have more control over what we watch what we pay and what data is collected.

The operating system behind the TV is Android why on earth would I want to give Google more information about what we watch so they can push content our way.

That’s good to hear. The OLED/Ambilight combo certainly sounds good

 

[AndyPK]

One additional thought about Samsung TVs - some of their range have a separate ‘media’ box which has the HDMI ports, usb ports, power, etc. built in, and this is then connected to the display by a single cable. This is a much neater solution than having a plethora of devices connected to the back of the tv, and means that the single cable can be easily hidden - a definite plus if wall-mounting!

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[Coolcats]

One additional thought about Samsung TVs - some of their range have a separate ‘media’ box which has the HDMI ports, usb ports, power, etc. built in, and this is then connected to the display by a single cable. This is a much neater solution than having a plethora of devices connected to the back of the tv, and means that the single cable can be easily hidden - a definite plus if wall-mounting!

The Phillips also has HDMI input also nag with USB I think most do, I guess it’s just personal choice on what you plug in. Some are happy with just the smart features