Home full fibre - One for the techies

[M-J]

I may just get the ONT installed in the loft and run Ethernet to the router in first fix and then run everything else on WiFi but a little worried as the internal walls are all solid. Assuming WiFi tech is improving all the time it’s unlikely I’ll ever need to rely on being hardwired to every room.

 

[Jon Stewart]

Cat8 is just over double the cost for the cheapest by the looks of it but can be x4 in some cases.

Still peanuts compared with the cost of the house!

I'm with fishplug on the future proofing.

On a complete left turn, have you designed your surround sound solution for your main TV, and put in at least 7-8 sockets around the room, with underfloor runs for the cable back to the TV/amp?

Sorry for the messy photos!
Btw, I put 8 power sockets behind the TV. Wasn't enough!

 

[Jon Stewart]

I may just get the ONT installed in the loft and run Ethernet to the router in first fix and then run everything else on WiFi but a little worried as the internal walls are all solid. Assuming WiFi tech is improving all the time it’s unlikely I’ll ever need to rely on being hardwired to every room.

We hardwired every room. Good job too with the very thick solid walls. Have an ap in (nearly) all the main rooms.

 

[M-J]

Still peanuts compared with the cost of the house!

I'm with fishplug on the future proofing.

On a complete left turn, have you designed your surround sound solution for your main TV, and put in at least 7-8 sockets around the room, with underfloor runs for the cable back to the TV/amp?

Sorry for the messy photos!
Btw, I put 8 power sockets behind the TV. Wasn't enough!



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Our two main tvs only run soundbars with a separate woofer, power options already sorted with the help of the kitchen island in the open plan area.

 

[fishplug]

You can very easily extend WiFi by adding more satellites to the Mesh network.

Not sure how the final cost will compare to a cabled solution, but it’s more flexible and easier to upgrade if needed and you can take it with you if you ever move.

How many you’ll need is hard to tell and will depend on just how thick those walls are and what other parts of the fabric of the building will interfere (things like tinted glass are particularly bad)

It then becomes a game of 'placement' which is likely going to require some trial and error although there are some guiding principles that might be helpful.

The gateway Eero (the one that's connected via cable to your ONT) should be as central as possible (although you might be limited for choice here) so that it becomes the hub from which the spokes radiate out. It's going to perform better (as they all will) if you put it higher up on something like a table than hidden on the floor under the sofa. Eero say that you can mount them on walls or ceilings but that they work best 'right way up'.

You then ideally want to position your other Eeros where they can 'see' the gateway one. You don't want them much further away from the nearest Eero than 10-15m and 'line of sight' between them is ideal if you can position them that way.

There are different models of Eero and you can mix and match them depending on the room. If you have one room that's a lead lined Faraday cage then you can run ethernet cable to an Eero in that room from one of the other Eeros in order to get coverage.

Appliances that put out big spikes of power may interfere so be mindful of things like fridges and microwaves or hairdryers and inverter welders.

WiFi will always be slower than wired and it's more prone to interference from various things but it's still a perfectly valid technology for most households.

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[Jabstatt]

Just a side thought….

Is your house electrical supply reliable?

We get one or two interruptions every week. Sometimes a few seconds, sometimes several hours.

It’s easy to provision for this if it’s an issue.

Tony

 

[M-J]

Just a side thought….

Is your house electrical supply reliable?

We get one or two interruptions every week. Sometimes a few seconds, sometimes several hours.

It’s easy to provision for this if it’s an issue.

Tony

Incoming mains supply?

 

[Jabstatt]

Yes.

Just a thought!

Tony

 

[M-J]

Yes.

Just a thought!

Tony

I have no idea as we are yet to move in but electricity supplies are pretty reliable these days in general.

 

[hja]

I’m assuming it is different if you have full fibre but we had overhead telephone input to loft, router in the office. Some issues developed, intermittent connection etc and we were advised to put router into loft. Certainly worked better since, but it is a pain when it needs rebooting. But ours is copper all the way.

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[StephenW]

One of the reasons that people suggest putting the router in the loft is a lot of houses have very little insulation or dense material between floors that will affect the WiFi signal. If the router is in a downstairs room then the signal can be affected by the internal walls , especially if foil backed insulation has been used.

 

[cyberyacht]

Back of most TV's these days, you need a 'Womans Realm' pullout supplement, not a sparky.

 

[Jon Stewart]

I have no idea as we are yet to move in but electricity supplies are pretty reliable these days in general.

All of our network infrastructure (including the main NAS) has a UPS protecting it, and supplying power, should we have an outage.

If you can do POE from this, protection could be extended.

While very reliable, we would tend to get momentary loss of power, which is really annoying.