Help - Engine won’t start? (1 Viewer)

[Steviemo747]

Hi Funsters, I have a problem that I can’t get my head round. The engine won’t start on my Fiat Ducato 2009? Plenty of power in the battery plus tried it with jump leads on to another vehicle? Glow plugs seem to be working warning light shows and then goes out but the engine just won’t start or fire up.

any ideas or help before I go down the expensive routes

 

[Clivefog]

Immobiliser fitted? Fuel cut off switch fitted?

 

[chaser]

Hi Funsters, I have a problem that I can’t get my head round. The engine won’t start on my Fiat Ducato 2009? Plenty of power in the battery plus tried it with jump leads on to another vehicle? Glow plugs seem to be working warning light shows and then goes out but the engine just won’t start or fire up.

any ideas or help before I go down the expensive routes

Are you talking about right now in the freezing weather? If so it could be water somewhere in the diesel pipes that has frozen.

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[Steviemo747]

Immobiliser fitted? Fuel cut off switch fitted?

No immobiliser or fuel cut off that I am aware of.

 

[Steviemo747]

Are you talking about right now in the freezing weather? If so it could be water somewhere in the diesel pipes that has frozen.

Yes it was this morning when I went to check the motorhome? You may be correct as it doesn’t seem to be getting fuel?

 

[L' Hobo]

No immobiliser or fuel cut off that I am aware of.

I have a 2007 X250 Ducato and it has both.
Immobilizer, 3pin red light flashing right side of dash.
Fuel cut off, passenger footwell.

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[Steviemo747]

I have a 2007 X250 Ducato and it has both.
Immobilizer, 3pin red light flashing right side of dash.
Fuel cut off, passenger footwell.

Thanks for the info, I will take another look to see if I do have them but quite sure I dont

 

[Raul]

As chaser says, maybe ice at the bottom of your fuel filter. Does the filter has a drain off nut under filter canister? Open that till clean diesel drips.

 

[Bessy765]

Anything coming out of the exhaust, if its getting fuel and wont start you should start to see white smoke out of the exhaust

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[Raul]

Yes it was this morning when I went to check the motorhome? You may be correct as it doesn’t seem to be getting fuel?

You can also get a easy start spray for diesel, to rule out immobiliser.

 

[Figaro]

I'm sure you will have a factory fitted immobiliser
Look for a padlock light on the dash

 

[jimcg]

I had a similar problem with engine cranking over briskly but failing to start in my 2010 Ducato earlier this year. It turned out to be an intermittent problem with the RFID chip in the key which was failing to send a signal to the immobiliser. An easy, and free, check would be to try a spare key if you have one (that worked for me). Other than that you really need to use an OBD scanner (lot’s of info on these if you search the forum) to see if there are any fault codes stored that can point you in the right direction.

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[Lenny HB]

Thanks for the info, I will take another look to see if I do have them but quite sure I dont

You must have a very rare Ducato then a one off.

 

[Steviemo747]

You must have a very rare Ducato then a one off.

Must have

 

[Steviemo747]

I had a similar problem with engine cranking over briskly but failing to start in my 2010 Ducato earlier this year. It turned out to be an intermittent problem with the RFID chip in the key which was failing to send a signal to the immobiliser. An easy, and free, check would be to try a spare key if you have one (that worked for me). Other than that you really need to use an OBD scanner (lot’s of info on these if you search the forum) to see if there are any fault codes stored that can point you in the right direction.

Thanks for the info, never thought of that, I will try that later when I go back up to the storage yard

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[chesterfield hooligan]

Be careful using easy start as it is not a myth engine's can become addicted to it as a means of starting it. What happens is when starting with easy start it is more inflammable in order to start a engine in colder weather, but when starting the engine the loud ignition banging shatters the compression ring's as they are made of cast iron so the more you use it the more it needs to start the engine.

 

[chaser]

Be careful using easy start as it is not a myth engine's can become addicted to it as a means of starting it. What happens is when starting with easy start it is more inflammable in order to start a engine in colder weather, but when starting the engine the loud ignition banging shatters the compression ring's as they are made of cast iron so the more you use it the more it needs to start the engine.

Instead of easy start try lynx body spray , starts them just as well and also a bit easier on them never mind about a quarter of the price.

 

[Conniedriving]

No immobiliser or fuel cut off that I am aware of.

Try earth strap . Clean and tighten

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[the1andonly]

And if yoou want another stab in the the dark without any obd info camshaft sensor or wiring to it.

 

[mitzimad]

does it turn over or is there nothing

 

[Steviemo747]

does it turn over or is there nothing

Hi it turns over just doesn’t fire up? Been there again this morning and it is not the key sensor or immobiliser (yes it has one) it seems to be fuel not getting through?

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[gus-lopez]

solenoid on pump packed up?

 

[07790]

Just because the glow plug light goes out doesn’t mean that the glow plugs are working, some of them may be burnt out.

 

[Jev88]

Older Ducato - Engine spins and no start = no fuel pump.
My 1999 2.5tdi and i believe the 2.8 have Fiat immobilisers. They crumble with age but clear symbol on dashboard doesn't go out when ignition on.
Poor earth straps are common. You can test this by using a beefy jump lead from battery NEG to engine block - now try start.

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[GeoffnDee]

No immobiliser or fuel cut off that I am aware of.

As pointed out , the fuel cut off safety inertia switch is on the kick panel at the left side of the passenger (left side ) foot well and has a reset button to use if it has been tripped for some reason .(which would be unusual , but possible )

 

[Tony50]

Hi it turns over just doesn’t fire up? Been there again this morning and it is not the key sensor or immobiliser (yes it has one) it seems to be fuel not getting through?

Before you start spending perhaps hundreds of pounds, get a professional to look at it, it may save you in the long run.

 

[Denty1]

Hi Funsters, I have a problem that I can’t get my head round. The engine won’t start on my Fiat Ducato 2009? Plenty of power in the battery plus tried it with jump leads on to another vehicle? Glow plugs seem to be working warning light shows and then goes out but the engine just won’t start or fire up.

any ideas or help before I go down the expensive routes

Get a diagnostic meter plug it in and it should tell you what the fault it

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[Landy Andy]

As others have mentioned. Shove a bit of easy start down the air intake and try a start. That will point you in the correct direction. It won’t damage anything or cause issues for a a brief few tests.

 

[Crazy Grandad]

Hi Funsters, I have a problem that I can’t get my head round. The engine won’t start on my Fiat Ducato 2009? Plenty of power in the battery plus tried it with jump leads on to another vehicle? Glow plugs seem to be working warning light shows and then goes out but the engine just won’t start or fire up.

any ideas or help before I go down the expensive routes

Hi,
Not sure if this will help, have you got a fuse box in the engine compartment if so maybe the fuse in number 16 has blown it's a 7.5 fuse if blown the engine will turn over but won't start. I found that out the other week. Good luck i hope you get it sorted.

 

[Steviemo747]

Hi,
Not sure if this will help, have you got a fuse box in the engine compartment if so maybe the fuse in number 16 has blown it's a 7.5 fuse if blown the engine will turn over but won't start. I found that out the other week. Good luck i hope you get it sorted.

Thanks I will take a look

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